methods wrote: number1cruncher wrote:
liveforphysics wrote:Nope. More patents will only mean more corruption, more lawyers getting a payday and more lawyers being created looking for new arteries to vampire dry.
That may be so, but I trust my grandfather's wisdom more than anyone on this board. He was a electrical engineer, patent attorney
and patent judge, who spent many years at the PTO. He always advocated for a first to file system, because it would reduce bureaucracy and increase innovation. God rest his soul!
Right - your grandfather is a smart man because he is one of the lawyers making money off of inventors patents. I would trust his wisdom too.
There are two type of financial people in this world, generous and greedy. My grandfather was more generous than most people I know. Sort of in the ranks of Justin. My grandfather could have easily made a lot of money from his position, but did not, except for his GOVERNMENT salary and pension. He would get calls daily after retirement asking for him to consult on bahalf of various corps for >$200hr...In the 80's. He declined every time. It would have got in the way of his case of beer a day habit. To his credit, he only drank half of each can, because he despised warm beer. And, this habit did not begin until after retirement.
He gave the majority of his money to the church when he died.
BTW - He also worked at White Sands to protect this country, so all you inventors could get scammed by them nasty patent attorney's.
If you Google his name Stephen W Capelli and Laser, he was intrigral to the first laser patent. He also judged Univac, the first color televisions, etc...
I guess we could eliminate the patent process and not protect anyone's patents. Let the inventors deal with that detail.
However, if anyone is having trouble with a patent, PM me and I can try to set you up with people inside the machine. I still have a few high up connections in the Chemical and Electrical divisions. Mechanical not so much...but I could try.
Tiberius wrote:I thought we already had a first to file system, at least over here. If there is no public disclosure then it's the date of filing that's important.
When I was employed, many years ago, employers would pick up the tab for a patent application. But working for myself, I soon realised the expense and hassle involved. I had a meeting with a patent agent once, and to be honest, it was exactly like dealing with a lawyer and exactly not like dealing with an engineer.
What I've done instead, quite a few times, is to file an initial application myself. That gives me a breathing space (a year in the UK system) but at the expense of public disclosure, and sets a filing date.
Sometimes the issue when you come up with an idea is just to stop someone else patenting it against you, and to make sure you get the kudos. In that case, publishing the idea is a good route, and that's one of the services that ES can provide. I can just see patent lawyers of the future reading the ES archives - at someone else's expense of course.
This is another reason the US needs to change its patent process, to align itself with the rest of the world.
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