Garelli moped project

[EVTodd]

I made a little progress on the moped this week. I just got the k10 forks and a frame brace mounted up 100% instead of just mocked up. Here's a crappy cell phone picture:



I think I'll keep the headlight. I kinda like how it looks with the larger forks.

Next up is to find an axle and sealed bearings to mount my snowflake wheels.

@ John, It is indeed an NOI motor. I actually have a Polini kit that came with the bike sitting here. It's a direct bold on (cylinder, piston, ring, and seals) and you don't have to modify anything to use it. If you want crazy power you can use a larger intake, carb, expansion chamber, etc...

I'm still not sure what the plan is yet though.

[Scoot440]

The ped is looking great! Are those forks a straight swap for the originals, or are you having to make modifications to mount the moped wheel?

[EVTodd]

The ped is looking great! Are those forks a straight swap for the originals, or are you having to make modifications to mount the moped wheel?

Thanks!

I had to cut the head tube and swap the crown race from the old forks to the new. It wasn't too big of a job.

The k10 forks are designed for a through axle hub. I'm putting on 17" snowflakes that are being converted to sealed bearing with a larger axle. I imagine the easy way to go would be to use a k10 front wheel.

[Scoot440]

When you get the axle sorted out, please post details. I have been looking at using that fork on a Kawasaki G5 frame with a pair of Tomos LX mags. I am wanting to build a low-rent electric cafe racer. Thanks for keeping us all up to date on your project.

[EVTodd]

When you get the axle sorted out, please post details. I have been looking at using that fork on a Kawasaki G5 frame with a pair of Tomos LX mags. I am wanting to build a low-rent electric cafe racer. Thanks for keeping us all up to date on your project.

Will do.

I just mocked up the front wheel decided to take a picture from the side so I can photoshop some different seats on it.



I tried a pit bike seat like the one on the motoped but I think it looked a little funny. Next try will be a cafe racer style seat. Anyone wanna give their photoshop skills a crack feel free!

[Drunkskunk]

what about finding a stock Garelli seat like this?

[johnrobholmes]

Make a new seat from the old one. Or just use the old one.

[EVTodd]

You only want it to put enough pressure on the start plate to allow the motor to kick over when you have the handle pulled in the whole way. It doesn't sound like you're out of adjustment by much if at all.

I can't see that all of the rubber pieces inside your casing were the bushing rings that align that start plate because they usually melt when there's an issue. I suppose if you clutch sat empty for a really long time they could have dried out and cracked apart.

Huh? You're obviously talking about a Garelli clutch based on what you're saying but I don't recall talking about my clutch. I thought maybe I was losing my mind when I read your post since my clutch is fine. Did I miss something? I need to re-read the thread now. Lol

[amberwolf]

Don't worry, it was just a spambot doing copypasta from other sites to various random threads on ES..

[EVTodd]

Don't worry, it was just a spambot doing copypasta from other sites to various random threads on ES..

Wow, that one actually made some sense since it's talking about the rubber clutch in a Garelli. Too funny.

[sk8norcal]

looks great,
that k10 fork really makes it look cool..

[Haste]

Any updates?

[deVries]

@ John, It is indeed an NOI motor. I actually have a Polini kit that came with the bike sitting here. It's a direct bold on (cylinder, piston, ring, and seals) and you don't have to modify anything to use it. If you want crazy power you can use a larger intake, carb, expansion chamber, etc...

I'm still not sure what the plan is yet though.

Hey Todd, nice new project.

With the kit added how fast will it go for cruising 5-30 miles at a time? Do "Moped Laws" (inspection/insurance) allow you to get away with these add-on kits to still pass inspection each year? In Texas it has to be a 50cc limit, but I guess these aftermarket kits let you go "higher" or what Wonder if there is an insurance/inspection issue afterwards?

I know JRH was building his hybrid to assist the gas for off the line acceleration & hills... at least the electric is well suited for torque & acceleration phase & then shift to the efficiency of gas at the higher speed??? Any new ideas for this as an electric hybrid? FD the front wheel or MAC torque it?

[Haste]

Ive wanted to pick up an old moped and pull all the ICE crap off. Throw a 9X7 rear DD, and run 24s of lipo in a custom batt box located where the motor used to be. Would be awesome, and use regen as rear brakes.

[Scoot440]

Lots of moped projects and components to found here:
http://www.mopedarmy.com/forums/list.php?2

[EVTodd]

With the kit added how fast will it go for cruising 5-30 miles at a time? Do "Moped Laws" (inspection/insurance) allow you to get away with these add-on kits to still pass inspection each year? In Texas it has to be a 50cc limit, but I guess these aftermarket kits let you go "higher" or what Wonder if there is an insurance/inspection issue afterwards?

I know JRH was building his hybrid to assist the gas for off the line acceleration & hills... at least the electric is well suited for torque & acceleration phase & then shift to the efficiency of gas at the higher speed??? Any new ideas for this as an electric hybrid? FD the front wheel or MAC torque it?

Good question about the moped laws, etc... I still haven't decided where I'm going with this project anyway since I've been working on a car project lately. But... If I decide to go with a larger displacement engine I'm planning on simply registering it as a motorcycle. We don't have inspections here but I would rather be legal than deal with any issues later. I'll have to talk to my insurance company if and when I do that since I have no idea how it would work.

If I go full electric I'll probably have to jump through some hoops too but I'll cross that bridge when I get to it.

As for how fast it will go. It depends on if you do any porting to the engine, the size of the carb, the pipe, etc... I know some people on Moped Army have top speeds of 45-50+ mph. I personally don't care much about top speed but I want it to be able to haul my butt up some of the big hills around here. Well, I hope it can do it as well as my friction drive at least. lol

[johnrobholmes]

Fastest 50cc moped in my area is 48mph. Fastest kitted bike is well over 60.