Hyperion EOS 1420i NET3 14s Balance Charger...

[docnjoj]

Yea I went last years science fair and built a konion pack that I still have. I looked at the Hyperion and saw the Hyperion sentry for 13usd. on sale from 26usd or is there a reason for this ?. I guess they have a newer model. Will this be a better opion then the 8s celllog from H.K.

I have 2 working Celllogs that seem to be OK. Hyperion seems to make good products but I have never used the device that you mention. What was your SF project with the Konions,999?
otherDoc

[999zip999]

I got 55 used 18v 3.0ah makita packs 550 cells. Found a long nose 10mm trox or I would still be drilling those suckers. So learned a lot of how to talk to batteries. Yes like plants you have to talk to your batteries. So 18s or 180 cells, and they can take the amps, but a little low on ah. So now I like the big format of the A123 two 12s with 6s balance wires for a 24s and will fit my bike. So maybe a second Hyperion 14s charger. But if I think the sentry has a cell balance mode ? Review

[docnjoj]

Hmmmm..........I find that I talk to my batteries occasionally, especially if we run out of juice at the bottom of a long hill!
otherDoc

[999zip999]

O.k. I order a 1420 & 4 sentry @ 13.85usd ea. For a total of 228.52usd with shipping. Does Hyperion use jst for balance connections ? I need to order 6s balance wires for the 18s kokion's and 24s A123 today. Does Hyperion have there own plug stlye ? Good place ? The H.K. have color wires ( good ) and ebuddy has better connectors, but out of 6s jst. Noob. And more noob questions.

[docnjoj]

They should have in your Hyperion box their connectors (not Jst-xh) and a board that is JST-xh and another type ( that is 2 boards each type) The 2 Jst should be plug in with the JST-Xh board connectors to go to the battery. Usually BPBuddy is fairly quick about resupply but I called them when the website said it was out of 6S JST and they said they had plenty of them. Don't forget to order those little plastic strain relief gizmos that they sell also. Cheap and effective! Now if I can only figure out how the charger works.........Oh yeah, I need to build a battery!
otherDoc

[999zip999]

I order from http://www.aircraft-world.com. Japan. I did find there balance wires of course they have a # hp-eoslba-mc-p6l. What the frock. 6s balance wires please. And for other connecting wires for two 1420 # A!*jjggyhh&&66y6tKkioihuy4894*&^. joke Damm number. And no info as if I already know or should know ? Hope they added to my EMS box, so If not the pacel post only 2.25usd. How long is parcel post. Took over 1 hr. to order.

[999zip999]

Yea great dealing with aircraft-world.com . They said they had a little web site over load. I think it was me. The japanese have much honor in my book. They got all in one box. And acted as their mistake. Can they sale a cheap battery like China ? My batteries are waiting.

[docnjoj]

Well I finally got a chance to use my Hyperion! Pretty mundane actually. My lawn tractor would not start and I couldn't find a 12 v charger so................ I fusssed with the menus and soldered the battery clips and ........ Yep sure enough! It will charge a 12 volt battery, Pb of course. Success! I seems to hold it at about 1.5 amps charge rate and it says it will go to a 13.8V float rate. Way cool. Of course i don't know if this battery will hold a charge, but at least the charger works! One small step for me..............
otherDoc

[999zip999]

Yes I wanted to buy a 6s lipo just so I could charge it. But I'm very scared that if I cross that lipo fire line I could never go back. Seeing the way it has infected some on E.S.

[docnjoj]

Yes I wanted to buy a 6s lipo just so I could charge it. But I'm very scared that if I cross that lipo fire line I could never go back. Seeing the way it has infected some on E.S.

Yeah I'm kind of a "lipo coward" myself. I like to be able to chareg indoors under any circumstances. Although my nephew is the Fire Chief of our town................
otherDoc

[Sacman]

I'm the other way.... I've had the Hyperion 1420i for about a year and a half and it's worked great. Recently tho, tried using a bulk charger rig and ended up getting a Lipo fire. Almost burned my place down. That experience was soo scary that now I'd never charge Lipo again without a smart, ballancing charger like the 1420i.

[999zip999]

I saw LFP at a race bulk charge a big nano pack at some high amps ?. I think he walk away and some cells hit 5v or ? and puffed. He was so happy the only thing that would have made him happier if it shot out fire at one end. This was in the desert. He run a huge motor so hot. They drill holes added water for cooling.Then cut a hole in the bottom with a 4in. grinder to let the water out. And go again ? So there is a water cooled motor. I have to much in my garage for lipo. Plus it's two floors down. Under my bedroom.

[geoff57]

hi
Ive just got a hyperion 1420, I used to run a 10S 2P LiPo pack on a 16" folding bike max speed fresh off the charger 13mph. I decided to make use of the full 14 cells that the 1420 can charge. I have added a 4S 2P to the battery pack to make it up to a full 14S 2P the problem is i have 2x5 cell and 1x4cell balance leads these have to be converted to 2x7 cell balance leads. How would I do this?
geoff

[El_Steak]

hi
Ive just got a hyperion 1420, I used to run a 10S 2P LiPo pack on a 16" folding bike max speed fresh off the charger 13mph. I decided to make use of the full 14 cells that the 1420 can charge. I have added a 4S 2P to the battery pack to make it up to a full 14S 2P the problem is i have 2x5 cell and 1x4cell balance leads these have to be converted to 2x7 cell balance leads. How would I do this?
geoff

I think you could make a custom harness using 2 x 6 pins and 1 x 5 pins JST extensions from hobby king, cut the male connector and then spice all the wires to a pair of 8 pins hyperion connectors with their female connectors removed. Pin 6 from connector 1 is joined with pin 1 from connector 2 and pin 6 from connector 2 with pin 1 from connector 3 (they are in series)

If you want a single full proof connector, you could use a DB25, to carry both the cell taps and the main power positive and negative (each on multiple pins to split the current load). That's what I did and I think a few other members as well. One connector, no mistakes and as a bonus, you can leave your pack on your bike, connected to the controller at all time.

[geoff57]

Hi
el'steak after that post I got out some stripboard and some of the housings I used with the LVC boards I made and started soldering. I finished up with a small adaptor board with a 5 cell, 5cell, 4 cell input and a 7cell, 7cell output for use with the 1420.
I tested it and it works fine.
I agree repeated connect/disconnect of the balance wires is not a good idea, I have some db25 connectors on order, I will put the connector on the balance wires as soon as I can.

I have found a possable alternative for a pair of mean well 350-24 PSU on eBay there are 600w 24v PSU from china for the same price as one meanwell, put 600w 24v power supply in the search engine of eBay.

Geoff

[FastDemise]

I bought this charger to make the jump to Lipo and have full confidence in the charger charging my Lipo batteries. Something that helps even more is using the Control Data Suite to control the charger completely off of the computer. It's very cool. From the computer I can adjust my memory settings and program the Name. I use 12s2p 10Ah as the name for my Memory 1 setting for example. Shows the voltage graphs that everyone likes to see and works great for me. I used it to cycle though all 6 of my 6s lipo packs to pick out the 4 I was going to use and soldered them up into a single 12s battery so no mess with wires and no fuss with connections. I can just plug it in and forget about it.

[EBJ]

I bought this charger to make the jump to Lipo and have full confidence in the charger charging my Lipo batteries. Something that helps even more is using the Control Data Suite to control the charger completely off of the computer. It's very cool. From the computer I can adjust my memory settings and program the Name. I use 12s2p 10Ah as the name for my Memory 1 setting for example. Shows the voltage graphs that everyone likes to see and works great for me. I used it to cycle though all 6 of my 6s lipo packs to pick out the 4 I was going to use and soldered them up into a single 12s battery so no mess with wires and no fuss with connections. I can just plug it in and forget about it.

I didn't realize you could change the name. Does the name change (from "memory 1" to "xxx") show on the chargers screen or just the computer ?

[999zip999]

Order monday 14 i got friday 18th.

[999zip999]

O.k. the sense wires are one red and 6 black wires with the 6s pin pack side balance connector. Quess red wire first pos. first neg. same cell then to all the rest neg ends. ? For 6s konion pack. Or is just the last neg. ? on the black end.

[EBJ]

O.k. the sense wires are one red and 6 black wires with the 6s pin pack side balance connector. Quess red wire first pos. first neg. same cell then to all the rest neg ends. ? For 6s konion pack. Or is just the last neg. ? on the black end.

I dont quite follow your post, but when I ordered a parallel harness, the red wire = the highest voltage. Each of the wires = cell voltages. So first black would likely be ground, second would be 3.7, third = (3.7 x 2), ect.

[999zip999]

How would I hook up the 6s balance wires to a 6s 18650 pack . They have one little bigger red wire on the hyperion balance wire set than 6 black wires. And only the last back wire is neg. ? And the rest of the black wires are to the pos. ends ?

[999zip999]

O.k. put the last black wire to the end cell neg..lowest voltage cell in series of 6s.The next black wire goes to the pos. end same cell. the next black wire goes to the next cell pos end, and so on to the last cell ending with the last wire being red pos. wire and being the highest voltage cell in series. The lowest cell is the only one with two wires.

[FastDemise]

I didn't realize you could change the name. Does the name change (from "memory 1" to "xxx") show on the chargers screen or just the computer ?

Yep, can make it display whatever you want. For my NiCad battery that I use for a old NiteRider light I simply have it display 'NiteRider NiCad' real straight forward.

[rkosiorek]

Hyperion surely does make a nice charger. but they surely sucketh bigtime when it comes to documentation.

i was also confused how to wire up the balancer connectors. the manual basically has nothing about that. i noticed on the front label one tiny clue. "With Integrated LBA-10 Cell Balancer". so i looked up the manual for the LBA-10 Balancer.

near the back they show how to wire up the plugs and the adapters. there is one difference though. the original LBA-10 is for 6s packs so it only has 7 wires for the connector. the version integrated into the 1420I is set up for 7s so the connector is larger with 8 wires. but the idea is the same. just one extra wire if needed for 7s packs.

here is a crappy jpeg how to custom wire the connectors for A123 packs. don't ask for a better picture. just download the manual and page to the back where they have the original drawings.

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rick

[999zip999]

Rkosiorek, I see I hope I get it. I have no lipo's so as to check with the eso sentry cell checker. But now I think It starts at ground, then to 1, 2, 3 up for more cells. And the red wire is the highest # of series cells. As I'm just learning to count bewards as if a DUI test. My 6s - 7 pin pack side balance wires HP-EOSLBA-MC-P6L and will use all pins. But that pic. let me know of the floating pos. pin. Thanks Now time to download and read and wait for a second insturtions as I'm still a little scared. Not to let out the magic smoke.