Hyena wrote:Granted, you'd need a way to hold the batteries in place, and I"m guessing velcro ain't gonna cut it...
o00scorpion00o wrote:danimal wrote:This is from earlier this week. The components all fit great and now it is off to powder coating.Deutch420 wrote:"What color scheme are you going with?"
"Any pictures with the side panals on?"
"is there a chance u could make a cutout (on the top of the frame ) for the buttons and screen of the CA?"
We are going with an antifreeze green powder coating, Then we will also post some photos of the panels and bottom bracket details (for Kfong)!
The new cycle analyst (bigger screen) does not fit in the width of this frame. If you still have an older version CA it will fit, and we can discuss cut-outs.
o00scorpion00o wrote:Whiplash wrote:Awesome so far! I can't wait to see it all done!! Hurry up! LOL!
By the way, maybe I missed it, what is the cost looking like for the bare frame un-painted?? ------- EDIT: Found it thanks!-----
This thing and a Cro-Motor with around 44.4V and like 35AH would be an AWESOME high speed trail machine!!
Cromotor fast on 44 volts ?
Andje wrote:Just found this.
Jaw is on the floor.
My ONE complaint is price; not because it's unfair, I just think it is very close to "uncompetitive". If you look at 2nd hand dh bikes for frames (something vaguely comparable), you can find many in NA on pinkbike for under 1500, and that is usually the whole bike with every component including a frame that was 500+$ new. It could never compare to what you are offering directly, but I will pay almost anything for this hobby, and I could never justify 1400 on just the frame, no matter how perfect. It's a case of being a mechanical hobbyist and being able to build things going along with the hobby, and then being limited by funds on all these builds. I can build a battery rack, but not batteries, if you catch my drift. So if I have to start justifying costs, I don't NEED a perfect frame with an internal mounted solution, I just want one (o boy do I want one). For me this will remain a lottery dream until the price comes down to the 500-800 range, and I think that as a 26 y/o white male in Ontario who is a young college student I can say that that sort of price really would open up your market hugely, same way this larger one I think shuts down a good chunk of it.
Someone once told me; never tell them the price until they have ridden it. I think that was the sagest advice I've ever heard about EV's.
Andje wrote:My ONE complaint is price; not because it's unfair, I just think it is very close to "uncompetitive".
We have the Jig about 80% done and we have all the materials ordered
Alan B wrote:Get a few rolls of 3M Vet-Wrap. Better than inner tubes or duct tape...
I think the price is reasonable, it would be hard to find a custom frame builder who will charge less than $1,400 for a quality hardtail/road frame. When you say 'non-competitive' which other e-bike specific suspension frames are you referring to? Greyborg?
Phasor: get used to the comments above, some people don't understand that the price of a finished product is far more than raw material cost OR simply don't value their time
o00scorpion00o wrote: For me having all the batteries in the frame is a big + that are hidden behind panels, you can hide all the wiring and controller. Then the droupouts would also be suitably strong to not have to worry about torque arms. + it will look good and full suspension. If these things are important, then I think people would buy it.
Andje wrote:"There is a market for this product, but it might be impossible for that market to afford this product." I think it would be hard to find someone on ES that actually has 1500$ for a frame
Andje wrote: I think the market would be in a total bike solution for people who can't build their own until the price drops to the >1000$ mark.
Andje wrote: Your frame is gorgeous and your prototyping updates are exactly what we all dream of.
without post like this yes probably allot better, now back to the topic!.Andje wrote: I really, really hope you succeed,
Yeah right it's seemed that you know better than everyone else here at ES how to build a frame like this for less than 1000 $. I'm really curious to see your own prototype and will be happy to buy this frame from you; I mean not an outsourcing frame from china.
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