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Re: Instant Start 18 fet Infineon Boards are here...

Postby NeilP » Sat Jul 23, 2011 9:35 am

Have been wondering that too. Some boards seem to have the P1 P2 and P3 in a line with the LED hole...so something to do with an LED display...and the LED inidcator mode and P3 mode settings in the controller software?


CR I believe is jumpered to ground to allow 'throttle hold' cruise control
Then there is:
TB?
SM?
SL is a Speed Limit override that is mentioned in the google doc and quote I put in above

DX3..well there is a pair of these and also the X3...still trying to find out about that and which one to use for the reverse function

XC, XC- Just found that...appears to be analogue speed output
Aux


I did read somewhere on one of the threads that Aux when connected to an LED powers up briefly when the controller starts up, and when under regen braking, so there was a thought given that it may drive a regen indicator of some sort

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Re: Instant Start 18 fet Infineon Boards are here...

Postby SkyCaptain » Fri Aug 26, 2011 2:03 am

Are these controllers available to buy complete?
I cant solder too great, and I keep blowing up my 48v comtrollers trying to run them on 60v and 72v lol.

Would love to join you guys running the high power controllers. Would be nice to have something that can handle some volts and current.
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Re: Instant Start 18 fet Infineon Boards are here...

Postby methods » Fri Aug 26, 2011 11:56 am

You dont need a giant 18 fet controller - you just need one that has 100V caps and 4110 fets.

Lyen started selling a line of controllers based on this thread. He has many flavors in the For Sale section. I think he also has a link in his signiture.
I am selling some 12 fet 40A controllers that work from 36V up to 88V with no mods to the regulator. They have 100V caps and 100V fets.
Look in the for sale section.

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Re: Instant Start 18 fet Infineon Boards are here...

Postby The Mighty Volt » Thu Sep 29, 2011 6:19 pm

Does anyone know where I could buy a blank Infineon board?? Thanks.
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Re: Instant Start 18 fet Infineon Boards are here...

Postby zEEz » Sat Oct 01, 2011 3:00 pm

The Mighty Volt wrote:Does anyone know where I could buy a blank Infineon board?? Thanks.


You could try ecrazyman ... I got 1x 12 fet, and a 6 and a 36 fet without fets ... :)
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Re: Instant Start 18 fet Infineon Boards are here...

Postby The Mighty Volt » Mon Dec 26, 2011 8:59 am

bigmoose wrote:Mind the amps men... or in this case the mA... It's the mA's that kills not the volts directly. Your skins's contact resistance is key, as is the path thru the heart as Luke mentioned. Left hand thru right foot and you end up in a wooden box. I am thinking of gloving my left hand as I work on these guitar amps... When you work alone, if you go over the edge, you cannot bring yourself back. It's a one way trip. I've watched a 2 inch spark jump to my index finger on my right hand from an unexpected conductive vacuum line on an ion source floating at 150 KV... it blew me off the platform and into a rack of gas bottles... It is on my list of the 6 reasons why I should still not be walking the earth... :wink:



Yes, and that is key. My Uncle was working as a linesman in Massachusetts on live-lines and he had an accident. Nobody spotted anything for quite some time and he eventually died of heart failure in hospital. The moron apprentice who was supposed to be watching him was not. Probably texting his girl-friend or some such nonsense. It was brain-damage and oxygen deprivation that ultimately killed him, not the electrical shock per se. The only sign of shock was a faint red mark on his arm.

http://www.powerlineman.com/lforum/show ... ower-lines

OSHA never even came up with a proper investigation.

Anyways this happened before I became involved with electrical bikes and its why I requested help on the matter of the tab-welder because I was worried about large amperages etc. Now of course I understand the subject matter much much better, but I still take major precautions. My Uncle was an experienced Lineman.
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Re: Instant Start 18 fet Infineon Boards are here...

Postby shuckswon1 » Mon May 14, 2012 5:27 pm

methods wrote:You dont need a giant 18 fet controller - you just need one that has 100V caps and 4110 fets.

Lyen started selling a line of controllers based on this thread. He has many flavors in the For Sale section. I think he also has a link in his signiture.
I am selling some 12 fet 40A controllers that work from 36V up to 88V with no mods to the regulator. They have 100V caps and 100V fets.
Look in the for sale section.

-methods

Hello Do you have any programable infineon controllers for sale? I f so, How Much? I need one for my wifes bike so she can keep up. Also, I am trying to figure out how and what program is best to use to adjust the settings if my infineon 18fet controller I purchased controller from another about a month ago. I am willing to pay for help. I have been trying every day for weeks to get a program installed.I have win7 64bit. I've downloaded, unziped extracted, installed reinstalled. Used administrator and turned off all anti virus software. Still no go. I got the farthest with XPD but was stopped by error when I applyed and pressed "the button" on USB adapter.
Will you help or direct me to information I can learn from. I just became a member today but I have been reading the sphere for over a year picking up on all I can. I have seen your name many times soHere I am. Ive read alot about keywin ,xpd and other sources to get this done to no avail. I have made it past port driver and selection. I have been riding electric for 10+yrs.
About a month ago,I decided I had the need for speed so jumped in head first. This program download /install thing is kicking my butt. Please, Please help me get the wind in my hair again. thanks Shuckswon1
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Re: Instant Start 18 fet Infineon Boards are here...

Postby NeilP » Tue May 15, 2012 1:07 am

shuckswon1 wrote:Hello Do you have any programable infineon controllers for sale?


Try the for sale sub forum

viewforum.php?f=31

you may have to go back a few pages. Lyen has a few threads there


shuckswon1 wrote:Will you help or direct me to information I can learn from.


Use
http://www.google.co.uk/advanced_search

rather than the built in site search put http://endless-sphere.com in the site or domain box and search the forum from there.

If you buy a controller fromLyen, then he will supply software, and help you if needed with the instalation. I cant help, I am a Win XP or Mac or linux bloke. never used Win7 yet
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Re: Instant Start 18 fet Infineon Boards are here...

Postby shuckswon1 » Wed Jun 06, 2012 3:52 pm

Thanks for info and direction NEILP
I see scanning all ES posts about programing inf 18 fets and it looks like I am at least 3 years behind the rest of you. Any body have any ideas what to read so I can KETSUP
The software problem was in my computer. Seems windows 7 is built without a couple of files that are needed to make the program install. I know because program stalled at same point on 2 different computers that both run in windows 7 . They have to be typed manually into drive and it works like a charm. A power greater
than my own opened my eyes to that bit of insight.
Thankyou Sir :shock:
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Re: Instant Start 18 fet Infineon Boards are here...

Postby Cyclebutt » Sat Sep 08, 2012 1:25 pm

Nice work, Methods. My distant past electronics training is coming back to me. As USB's appeared on the back of computers in those days, allow me a stupid question. Is the USB connection for programming? Data acquisition? Controlling (via CA) or all of the above. This level of eBike technology is outstanding. Here's a big "THANK YOU" to all you guys for doing, and sharing, what you do!
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Re: Instant Start 18 fet Infineon Boards are here...

Postby NeilP » Tue Sep 11, 2012 3:00 pm

USB for programming.
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Re: Instant Start 18 fet Infineon Boards are here...

Postby megacycle » Sun Sep 30, 2012 4:56 am

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Smokin, old school way to find dud fets.
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Re: Instant Start 18 fet Infineon Boards are here...

Postby methods » Mon Oct 01, 2012 4:36 pm

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Re: Instant Start 18 fet Infineon Boards are here...

Postby megacycle » Mon Oct 01, 2012 7:11 pm

That was only about 300W, Keep tuned exploding fets coming soon :P
Sure Im going to kill another set sometime soon :?

Plenty of spares left Meth?
RS just stung me $30 for the 3 :?
Though that's next day in my letterbox style.
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Re: Instant Start 18 fet Infineon Boards are here...

Postby megacycle » Wed Oct 10, 2012 7:10 pm

Only problem with exploding fets is exploding driver circuits :?
Anyone help with the smd boot cap values, no info anywhere :? expect theyd be the same for all 18 fet infineon boards.
I got one thats gone, but the in circuit tests of the other fet boot caps show same values,
but different dvm's and scales give the same values good, but anywhere between .5μf-50μf, depending on scale.
Think they are in the low μf's?
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Re: Instant Start 18 fet Infineon Boards are here...

Postby amberwolf » Thu Oct 11, 2012 12:28 am

Which caps? If you have a pic, point them out in it and psot it, I'll look at one of mine; if they're marked I can read them off or if not I can see what my meters say in-circuit.
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Re: Instant Start 18 fet Infineon Boards are here...

Postby megacycle » Thu Oct 11, 2012 1:35 am

This is a different board but the cap would be the same, presumably, not very scientific.
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Re: Instant Start 18 fet Infineon Boards are here...

Postby amberwolf » Sat Oct 13, 2012 1:03 am

There might be something wrong with my meters, but I can't read any capacitance across any of the caps in or near those positions. :(
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Re: Instant Start 18 fet Infineon Boards are here...

Postby megacycle » Sat Oct 13, 2012 2:43 am

Thanks for trying, the thought counts.
Ive been in and out of ES looked for several hours.
Got a lot more knowledge from guys posting previously, but no specifics.

Probably lift a leg of another, cos all those parallel circuits through resistors and junction aren't helping
:?
I'll post the result, when Im done
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Re: Instant Start 18 fet Infineon Boards are here...

Postby megacycle » Sat Oct 13, 2012 7:49 pm

I lifted one next door to broke one, high side duhhh, hoping the same, look alike, in circuit measuring similar values on all scales.
Consistently measured between 6 & 8nf, so looks like high chance of 6.8nf.
Found an old cap with 6.2nf and it measured 6nf on the same fluke, so definitely in the ball park.
Nowhere near what i measured in circuit, been a long time since i worked in electronics pre smd.
Should have known even smd of that value would look different.

Got old MOB's lying around, see if i can find and salvage some of the same.
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