An alternative to thumb or twist throttles

[callagga]

more than one source for those.

out of stock
http://www.partsforscooters.com/111-46

out
http://www.scootercatalog.com/bladez-throttle.html

out
http://www.extremescooters.biz/bladez-t ... lever.aspx

might be in stock
http://www.trendtimes.com/bladez-throttle-lever.html

maybe
http://www.scooterpartscatalog.com/thro ... 11-46.html

wish I could be of more help

Oh - I just got a response from BH North American Corp (they're the manufacturer of the part right??) that said the Scooter Lines (in the context of the part number) were discontinued by The Bladez Corporation about three years ago, and they have limited stock on parts and we do not have that part available

Anyone know if this is correct? Or that BH North American Corp are really the manufacturer of the part Bladez part # 70171.

[dogman]

I'm a well known electronic idiot, but I think the ebrake wouldn't work as a normal throttle. I just suspect it will function more as an on off, buuut. The way I ride that could work fine I pretty much floor it at all times commuting at least. So mabye a set up with a regular throttle when you need it, but an on off throttle with a brake handle to use when you are cruising?

One thing I got to thinking, related to waterproofing a throttle, was putting the throttle in a box, waterproofed more or less, and using a cable throttle from a motorcycle to activate the sealed up regular throttle. It could be a trigger throttle from a weedeater, a brake handle, a shifter, anything that pulls on a cable.

[amberwolf]

I'm a well known electronic idiot, but I think the ebrake wouldn't work as a normal throttle. I just suspect it will function more as an on off, buuut.

The non-linear ebrake handles would indeed work that way. But if I understand correctly, the linear ones are supposed to allow you to brake a little or a lot, just like your regular mechanical brakes. That means they must be putting out an analog signal, rather than just full off / full on.

Whether or not the signal is the right level (or polarity) to use for a throttle has yet to be determined. I'm sick enough at the moment I can only wobble to the bathroom and back here to the bed, but once I feel well enough to work on stuff without falling on it, breaking it or blowing it up, I'll test out the idea.

Polarity is easy to fix, by flipping the magnet around the other way, I think. Level might have to have op-amp scaling and offset. (well, transistors could be used instead).

One thing I got to thinking, related to waterproofing a throttle, was putting the throttle in a box, waterproofed more or less, and using a cable throttle from a motorcycle to activate the sealed up regular throttle. It could be a trigger throttle from a weedeater, a brake handle, a shifter, anything that pulls on a cable.

That's pretty much how my original plan for my pedal-chain-tension-operated throttle would have been, with the Honda scooter cable-twist-throttle setup to pull it's lever up for an override when I didn't want to or couldn't pedal. I never have been able to build it to test the theory yet, though. Originally the box would've been a pot throttle with a lever on the outside that had a roller on top of the chain, and inside the box the pot throttle and the electronics needed to offset and scale it's output so it could be adjusted to suit the pedalling tension vs motor speed I wanted out of the system at a certain pedalling force. Plus some op-amp integration to smooth out downstroke vs rest of rotation, so it didn't get power surges.

[callagga]

Russ/all

Looks like the party may be over for the design on thread Called partsforscooters and they're saying they may not get the part in again and they didn't think bladez was still around. Not good timing for me cause mine needs replacing...

Anyone know of an alternative sqeeze thottle brand/model one could use instead of the Bladez?

thanks

[Russell]

This place still shows them in stock;

http://www.justformotorsports.com/products.php?product=111%252d46--BLADEZ-Lever-Throttle-Assy-For-Electric-Scooter


-R

[GCinDC]

Just called the number on the Contact Us page. The number's been disconnected. I sent them an email. Will let you know if I hear back.

[callagga]

Just called the number on the Contact Us page. The number's been disconnected. I sent them an email. Will let you know if I hear back.

which company are you referring to GCinDC? thanks

[callagga]

This place still shows them in stock;

http://www.justformotorsports.com/products.php?product=111%252d46--BLADEZ-Lever-Throttle-Assy-For-Electric-Scooter


-R

Thanks Russell - Unfortunately I found out they don't ship to Australia

[callagga]

PS - re possible alternative I see on this site there is the following - think this could be a replacement?

http://www.justformotorsports.com/products.php?product=152%252d4--Throttle-Lever-for-Gas-scooter

[GCinDC]

justformotorsports

[drewjet]

Be Aware, some of the bladez used an on-off switch for a throttle. I bet the $13 one is that, I think you need the $25 one http://www.justformotorsports.com/produ ... ttle-Lever to get a three wire with pot.

[amberwolf]

Well, dangit, the hall sensors in these ebrakes I have are indeed the switching kind, rather than the linear kind. However, it would be dead simple to change out the hall sensor in any of this type of ebrake, based on the breakdown pics I took in a previous post.

Then they *would* work as lever throttles.

[redorblack]

http://www.justformotorsports.com/pages.php?pageid=4
The about us page had an interesting typo and the company address is misspelled or fictitious. Letting the spelling get fixed from Specially Point to Specialty Point Dr. brought up a website for a construction contractor which might be bogus also. I found it interesting that they named a different company in the middle of their about us spiel so plugged that in and that companies About Us page had the same exact spiel except being in California rather than Florida and had it's own name throughout the page..

Check it out...

http://www.motopartsmax.com/index.php/m ... chapter/10

And that one goes data mining if you want to be a dealer, but there they are Ridemax-inc.com.

I'd love to have one of these trigger throttles, but I'm HIGHLY suspicious of these websites, too many red flags.

Any ideas?

Scott

[drewjet]

If anyone is still looking I just found these with them in stock
http://www.trendtimes.com/bladez-throttle-lever.html

$13 for shipping 2 of them...ouch

[amberwolf]

And you might want to read what was posted about the company in the post directly above yours....

[GCinDC]

If anyone is still looking I just found these with them in stock
http://www.justformotorsports.com/produ ... ttle-Lever

$13 for shipping 2 of them...ouch

How do you know they're in stock? They display that or did you call them?

[drewjet]

My bad, wrong link

http://www.trendtimes.com/bladez-throttle-lever.html

[drewjet]

I called this company and they confirmed stock. When I get them in I will post

Double check the link

http://www.trendtimes.com/bladez-throttle-lever.html

is correct

Interestingliy the just for motor sports is supposedly about 10 miles from my house. I tried the number and it was disconected

[redorblack]

I called this company and they confirmed stock. When I get them in I will post

Double check the link

http://www.trendtimes.com/bladez-throttle-lever.html

is correct

Interestingliy the just for motor sports is supposedly about 10 miles from my house. I tried the number and it was disconected

Could you find or get an address for Trendtimes? I couldn't locate one on their website...

[drewjet]

Just got a call from trend times and they ended up not having them, they credited my CC so all is well, just have to start looking again.

[drewjet]

Just got a call from trend times and they ended up not having them, they credited my CC so all is well, just have to start looking again.

I just received in 2 in the mail from http://www.bladezscooters.com/

[GCinDC]

Thanks for the heads up. Let us know how it works out for you.

I want one, but am suddenly balking at $39 shipped. Also, I wonder how it would hold up in rain...

[auraslip]

I just wanted to subscribe to this threat and say good job russel.

[Russell]

Thanks Auraslip, it's the only throttle I use and I absolutely would not want to ride with a conventional throttle. I've put a combined 5,000 miles on the two units I have with one now as a spare. I guess they are hard to come by now so I'm glad I have another just in case.

-R

[auraslip]

The updated retailer in your first post still seems to have them for 13.99.

Or does that one not work?