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Re: SoCal Motor Bicycle Racing Sat April 7th 2012 Grange Rac

Postby knoxie » Mon Apr 09, 2012 2:44 am

Fair enough :lol: just watched your video with the front and rear gopros :shock: no wonder they feel a bit pissed off :lol: you have to say a totally different class :lol:
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Re: SoCal Motor Bicycle Racing Sat April 7th 2012 Grange Rac

Postby John in CR » Mon Apr 09, 2012 3:00 am

Great video Luke. Now I have a real sense of your bike's power. I'm torn between wanting to grab a handful of that throttle myself, and using family responsibilities as an excuse to puss out. :mrgreen: In any event I gotta go for significantly more power on a couple of bikes and go play chase while my son is still down.
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Re: SoCal Motor Bicycle Racing Sat April 7th 2012 Grange Rac

Postby bigmoose » Mon Apr 09, 2012 7:12 am

Stunning video Luke! Suggestions for the replacement motor shared on the phone: sealit, fillit, runit... :twisted:
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Re: SoCal Motor Bicycle Racing Sat April 7th 2012 Grange Rac

Postby jkbrigman » Mon Apr 09, 2012 7:59 am

liveforphysics wrote:
Arlo1 wrote:can't wait to see some footage from lukes double go-pro!


Here is heat#1.

(youtube vid referenced earlier)


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Re: SoCal Motor Bicycle Racing Sat April 7th 2012 Grange Rac

Postby dodjob » Mon Apr 09, 2012 8:01 am

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Re: SoCal Motor Bicycle Racing Sat April 7th 2012 Grange Rac

Postby fechter » Mon Apr 09, 2012 8:37 am

liveforphysics wrote:
Arlo1 wrote:can't wait to see some footage from lukes double go-pro!


Here is heat#1.



Great video! The rear view camera gives a much better perspective. Once you hit the straight, the other bikes got small really fast :twisted:
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Re: SoCal Motor Bicycle Racing Sat April 7th 2012 Grange Rac

Postby Arlo1 » Mon Apr 09, 2012 9:48 am

liveforphysics wrote:

Lol when they disappear out of sight in the rear camera at 2:12 is awesome. Best episode of gilligan's island ever!
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Re: SoCal Motor Bicycle Racing Sat April 7th 2012 Grange Rac

Postby Arlo1 » Mon Apr 09, 2012 9:52 am

bigmoose wrote:Stunning video Luke! Suggestions for the replacement motor shared on the phone: sealit, fillit, runit... :twisted:

You guys talking about oil cooling it?
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Re: SoCal Motor Bicycle Racing Sat April 7th 2012 Grange Rac

Postby Ykick » Mon Apr 09, 2012 9:54 am

Damn, it's like a Jet running with piston props! Putt-putt sounds interrupted by WHOOSH of electric turbine!!!

Helluva thing Luke and congrats to all.
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Re: SoCal Motor Bicycle Racing Sat April 7th 2012 Grange Rac

Postby nicobie » Mon Apr 09, 2012 12:40 pm

Way to go Luke!

The bike seemed to handle way better than last year. And even though you detuned it a little, you still went 2 mph faster.

I agree that it's the racing against the gas boys that make it interesting. Did the moped that won it all have pedals? If he did, he won fair and square IMO

I'll bet that when October rolls around you will have some faster ebikes to contend with. :wink:

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Re: SoCal Motor Bicycle Racing Sat April 7th 2012 Grange Rac

Postby zombiess » Mon Apr 09, 2012 1:21 pm

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In that first lap you can see my bike in 2nd until the straight away where it doesn't have the top speed of the other bikes.
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Re: SoCal Motor Bicycle Racing Sat April 7th 2012 Grange Rac

Postby SoSauty » Mon Apr 09, 2012 2:49 pm

Boy, the moped guys led by Chris, have the bar set with Luke and the rest of the e-posse just coming on the scene and pulling up close those moped outlaws. Sorta, review the tomahawk vid and notice his 49cc 2 stroke is cat and mousing in the early laps. He is riding 4' off the apex of turns, holding back and studying passing opportunes, and making easy graduations from right to left leans. Last 2 laps he is riding inches off the apex of the turns and his right to lefties become more of a whip. Combine that with the fact that his roomy passes are really just a courtesy, that if needed he/his machine have the mojo to force a side by side and put the yield responsibility on his opponent(s) entering the subsequent turn.

What I'm saying, is that though the e-s have the technical/innovative momentum, once our challenge is fully recognized, they have some reserve on tap. And for the interested, in France, homeland of refined moped racing, those pedals are tradionally removed, but, can be reinstalled with most performance (maybe not the way over leaning) perserved. As the gassers and the e-s' push each other to greater heights, there's the laid back but ever so dangerous mopes, hanging back in the shadows :!:

Is there a better time to be a part of this motored bike racing scene :?: Isn't life grand :mrgreen:

Yes, there was a mope faster than Luke (though not close to Luke on the straight aways). You gotta go to their blog and read where the e-bikes are headed given another 2 years :wink: The e-s now can run faster than the mopes, if they burn down a few laps later :!:
At the risk of being tarred an' feathered, getting banned from ES, and that's before you get mad at me: There's a whole professional culture of expert moped rider/builders with roots that go back to France here in California. We just better hope he doesn't bring his faster kid sister to the June 2 throw down :D
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Re: SoCal Motor Bicycle Racing Sat April 7th 2012 Grange Rac

Postby Whiplash » Mon Apr 09, 2012 2:55 pm

So wait, there was a bike faster than Luke?? Where is the vid?? I personally find it kind of hard to believe!
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Re: SoCal Motor Bicycle Racing Sat April 7th 2012 Grange Rac

Postby liveforphysics » Mon Apr 09, 2012 3:21 pm

SoSauty wrote:Boy, the moped guys led by Chris, have the bar set with Luke and the rest of the e-posse just coming on the scene and pulling up close those moped outlaws. Sorta, review the tomahawk vid and notice his 49cc 2 stroke is cat and mousing in the early laps. He is riding 4' off the apex of turns, holding back and studying passing opportunes, and making easy graduations from right to left leans. Last 2 laps he is riding inches off the apex of the turns and his right to lefties become more of a whip. Combine that with the fact that his roomy passes are really just a courtesy, that if needed he/his machine have the mojo to force a side by side and put the yield responsibility on his opponent(s) entering the subsequent turn.

What I'm saying, is that though the e-s have the technical/innovative momentum, once our challenge is fully recognized, they have some reserve on tap. And for the interested, in France, homeland of refined moped racing, those pedals are tradionally removed, but, can be reinstalled with most performance (maybe not the way over leaning) perserved. As the gassers and the e-s' push each other to greater heights, there's the laid back but ever so dangerous mopes, hanging back in the shadows :!:

Is there a better time to be a part of this motored bike racing scene :?: Isn't life grand :mrgreen:

Yes, there was a mope faster than Luke (though not close to Luke on the straight aways). You gotta go to their blog and read where the e-bikes are headed given another 2 years :wink: The e-s now can run faster than the mopes, if they burn down a few laps later :!:
At the risk of being tarred an' feathered, getting banned from ES, and that's before you get mad at me: There's a whole professional culture of expert moped rider/builders with roots that go back to France here in California. We just better hope he doesn't bring his faster kid sister to the June 2 throw down :D
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When we practiced together, I crushed him. I could pass him at will. I had to keep backing off in the main to keep from coming up on him.

In the main event, the goal was to ride 1 corner back, so he wasn't feeling pushed. The goal was to ride as softly as possible to hold my position and cover as many laps as possible being as gentle as possible with the motor heating. Then strike and make an easy pass on the last or maybe second to last lap. In my onboard cam, you can see me advancing ground on him while riding so gently, never going past 1/2 throttle, and not even needing the front brake, just rolling on regen to hold a gentle pace. In retrospect, I think the regen heating may have been the ruin on the motor, I should have disabled it before entering the main.
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Re: SoCal Motor Bicycle Racing Sat April 7th 2012 Grange Rac

Postby SoSauty » Mon Apr 09, 2012 3:38 pm

The e-s now can run faster than the mopes, if they burn down a few laps later


I stand corrected, I rooted for you 50 to 100 yds back of 'em before you flamed. Gonna be thrilling to see you pass 'em June 2 :!:
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Re: SoCal Motor Bicycle Racing Sat April 7th 2012 Grange Rac

Postby chroot » Mon Apr 09, 2012 3:53 pm

Gratz Luke, Good job crushed all gas motored bicycle + moped!


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Re: SoCal Motor Bicycle Racing Sat April 7th 2012 Grange Rac

Postby etard » Mon Apr 09, 2012 6:12 pm

Luke, when do we get to see the finals video? I keep checking back every hour expecting your post. :twisted:

Did anybody check the tires on that moped? I'm wondering if there is a stickier tire than the Pirreli's that he might be using.

Motor heating seems to be the big issue for everyone. We all were thinking about our own way to cool the motors. I'm actually glad I fried a Hall, kinda like an early warning system before the whole thing goes up in smoke! :wink:

I can't believe Luke was only hitting 70 mph down the straight, I was getting 60 mph on Farfle's bike and Luke's bike seemed much faster (not that Farfle's is slow in the first place).
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Re: SoCal Motor Bicycle Racing Sat April 7th 2012 Grange Rac

Postby zombiess » Mon Apr 09, 2012 6:47 pm

Farfle's bike pulled like a freight train. I was going to ask Luke to let me ride his bike but it wasn't operational at that point :(
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Re: SoCal Motor Bicycle Racing Sat April 7th 2012 Grange Rac

Postby Thud » Mon Apr 09, 2012 6:53 pm

Motor heating seems to be the big issue for everyone.


Just run less power! :mrgreen:

Farfle rode it this time...no? (iwas suprised by his old clyt this 2pi has to be twice the fun) I want to hear the story about the sevcon & the blown infineon.
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Re: SoCal Motor Bicycle Racing Sat April 7th 2012 Grange Rac

Postby zombiess » Mon Apr 09, 2012 7:26 pm

Thud wrote:
Motor heating seems to be the big issue for everyone.


Just run less power! :mrgreen:

Farfle rode it this time...no? (iwas suprised by his old clyt this 2pi has to be twice the fun) I want to hear the story about the sevcon & the blown infineon.


I think only acuteaero popped a controller. He then hooked up farfles 24 fet which I programmed for him but I might have set it a little to high and he lost his motor. I think the controller was OK. I gave him a castle creations controller I won that will hopefully work after his motor is rewound.
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Re: SoCal Motor Bicycle Racing Sat April 7th 2012 Grange Rac

Postby sk8norcal » Tue Apr 10, 2012 12:34 pm

Fast class moped/motorized bicycle race.

I'm racing my peugeot 103 rcx 50cc against motorized bicycles 200cc 4T dual variated and electric bikes. Short video because my camera's battery died after few laps.
I lead and won the race followed by the orange electric bike way faster in the straight away but slower in the twisty 4 turns behind, his motor burnt and he couldn't finish the race.


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Re: SoCal Motor Bicycle Racing Sat April 7th 2012 Grange Rac

Postby hydro-one » Tue Apr 10, 2012 12:54 pm

I have to say how proud I am at the whole Community here with the turnout and coverage of this amazing event,

LMFAO, at Lukes video!!!! 2:11 got me rolling!! Great video , how you could keep from laughing and shaking your head during race, must have been hard!!! :D :D I was going to ask Luke how come your so slow of the line?? :D :D and I guess you will get out the liquid cooled Golden motor now? Thats Golden with a capitol G . And just to confirm were you running the Kelly or SeVcon? drool1 military tech helps!

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Re: SoCal Motor Bicycle Racing Sat April 7th 2012 Grange Rac

Postby Alan B » Tue Apr 10, 2012 1:21 pm

Two Sevcon's there - Luke's and Farfle's.
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Re: SoCal Motor Bicycle Racing Sat April 7th 2012 Grange Rac

Postby bzhwindtalker » Tue Apr 10, 2012 3:23 pm

Now I know why the moped won. 103 rcx is the answer to that question :)
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