CVT like setup using Chains&Gears

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Re: CVT like setup using Chains&Gears

Postby numberonebikeslover » Wed Feb 24, 2010 11:26 am

At the moment, it looks like only a single piece of heavy wire connecting the front & rear derailleurs. I'm guessing you will strengthen this?


Definately; I would strengthen it so that it can withstand any stress or strain and it should be longlasting. At the time i had nothing, everything was happening in my mind (imagination) so i used nails with tough metal.

I'm also wondering if your front derailleur could have the opening "flared" a bit, rather than have each link striking a sharp edge?


The follwoing figure explains how the chain is held between the front derailer's bracket and the chain links can't get stuck rather slip through.
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Re: CVT like setup using Chains&Gears

Postby numberonebikeslover » Sat Mar 27, 2010 6:30 am

Dear All;

Following link will tell the reason for my absence from ES.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpWcQ-ovgP0

This is a variable transmission with a very vide range of choice, using simple chains and gears readily available in the market in my city ( Peshawar , Pakistan ). It is not just a final stuff at the moment but I’m working towards perfection.



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Re: CVT like setup using Chains&Gears

Postby liveforphysics » Sat Mar 27, 2010 6:45 am

Outstanding! I loved your video, and it was very clever how you built the rigid guide for the top chain to move with the derailer.

Your english is very good!

I always love to see your work.

Much respect to you Naeem.

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Re: CVT like setup using Chains&Gears

Postby Miles » Sat Mar 27, 2010 6:51 am

Well thought out and nicely implemented Naeem! :D
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Re: CVT like setup using Chains&Gears

Postby amberwolf » Sun Mar 28, 2010 2:42 am

numberonebikeslover wrote:This is a variable transmission with a very vide range of choice, using simple chains and gears readily available in the market in my city ( Peshawar , Pakistan ). It is not just a final stuff at the moment but I’m working towards perfection.

Nice. :) Where does the pedal chain hook in? (looks like it is not yet integrated?)
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Re: CVT like setup using Chains&Gears

Postby Solcar » Mon Mar 29, 2010 2:24 am

I really like it, Naeem!
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Re: CVT like setup using Chains&Gears

Postby numberonebikeslover » Tue Mar 30, 2010 12:42 pm

amberwolf wrote:Where does the pedal chain hook in? (looks like it is not yet integrated?)


Yes Sir, you are right it is not yet hooked in but this time i'm going to put it right above the front tire and my seating position will be like sitting and leaning a little so is going to be the position of the handles but i've not figured it out yet. this is what i'm planing. It just to make the bike more aero dynamic. Do need your precious word on it though.

Looking forward for suggessions and coments.

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Re: CVT like setup using Chains&Gears

Postby amberwolf » Tue Mar 30, 2010 8:03 pm

What you are planning sounds like what is commonly called a Short WheelBase (SWB) recumbent, with the seat position being high up also sometimes called a Highracer. Those terms may help you search out more information on how others have done this easily enough.

If you look in the older parts of my Electricle blog, you'll find the ReCycle, which was a Lowracer but still with pedals over the wheel to keep it from being quite as long as it otherwise would be (like CrazyBike2 is). There's some stuff about how I started to work out a folding boom for the pedals, extendable so I could adjust it for my leg length.

One thing to note is that on a normal-height bike, being seated leaning back a bit with your legs up at or above the level of your hips is going to be a much higher center of gravity (COG) and will take some time to learn to ride it. Having the electric to help you start up will be a tremendous advantage, as otherwise it can be difficult to get such a bike started from a stop, as you cannot just stand on the pedals to do it as on a regular bike (as yours was before).

This is one of the main reasons I built CrazyBike2 in the compromise position of forward but low-down pedals, and a semi-recumbent seat farther back partly over the wheel, with a much longer forward section to ensure the tire cleared my toes during pedalling and turning. :) The whole bike is more stable at startups than if I had my feet up high over the wheel, though it has a significantly larger turning radius at a reduced turning speed.

It also required using "remote steering", as the handlebars' steering point was now going to be so far forward as to require handlebars over two feet back from that point; impractical and uncomfortable to use. Remote steering lets me use normal bars and comfortable usage, and also lets me change the ratio of handlebar movement to steering movement, which you can't do if they're directly attached like a normal bike. :)


So if you are able/willing to significantly stretch the bike frame, you could go something along the CrazyBike2 design, or other similar ones out there. If you prefer the short wheelbase (SWB) of your regular bike, there are many models to emulate of that type, with many solutions to get the chain back from the pedals to the rear wheel.

There are even solutions to run the chain to the *front* wheel, so you could have it be entirely independent drivetrain from the motor, if you choose.
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Re: CVT like setup using Chains&Gears

Postby 12p3phPMDC » Mon Apr 05, 2010 10:56 pm

Naeem,

I just saw a horrible video of a bombing in Peshawar on the news tonight. I pray and hope that you are OK and am sorry for those that
may have been hurt.
I know you have mentioned terrible events like this before, but after seeing it on TV, It hit home because of what you have shared
with us on Endless Sphere.

But your positive attitude, excitement, and motivation are inspirational Naeem! :D
Thank you for your video. and Good job and good luck with your bike!

May God bless you Naeem. :!:
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