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Re: Luke's commuter bicycle. What Non-hub is all about.

Postby amberwolf » Sun Jan 08, 2012 11:04 pm

Arlo1 wrote:Not sure what you are talking about dude. I only found a 5 min video...


The other one was still uplaoding, sorry. YT took FOREVER and timed out a bunch of times. It's up now, though, and it's actually at 25:50 in. :oops:
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Re: Luke's commuter bicycle. What Non-hub is all about.

Postby auraslip » Mon Jan 09, 2012 8:17 pm

I submitted the video to the motorcycle subreddit http://www.reddit.com/r/motorcycles/com ... ing_sport/

Looks like it gave some gas bikers some insecurity issues...
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Re: Luke's commuter bicycle. What Non-hub is all about.

Postby gor. » Mon Jan 09, 2012 9:37 pm

sure, they not secure - they say - it wasn't fair - Luke been cheating, if he wasn't pedaling, 1000cc 160+ hp superbike would have a chance, plus - Luke could start to pedaling in front of cop, and motorcyclist is the one who would get chased and caught.....

well, they admitted - in the average street racing, superbikes - no match for commuter e.bicycle made for city speeds 60-80max just to keep with traffic
there is no need for 80+ on commuter bicycle (hell, i'm not pushing much my old car >80 even on interstate)
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Re: Luke's commuter bicycle. What Non-hub is all about.

Postby parabellum » Mon Jan 09, 2012 9:42 pm

auraslip wrote:Looks like it gave some gas bikers some insecurity issues...

Few of them didn't get it so far, others already realized what is coming. I wonder if 1 of those excuse finding "good of line starters" will risk his "honor" and race against this or other scary looking bicycle. A lot to lose after laud words. :D
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Re: Luke's commuter bicycle. What Non-hub is all about.

Postby gor. » Mon Jan 09, 2012 9:50 pm

on serious note - to have better idea how it's possible (1L 160+hp vs 1 Luke) - what size,weight, gearing - mom.of inertia of flywheel and clutch (mass equivalent or rotating parts) on honda and sz on the video?
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Re: Luke's commuter bicycle. What Non-hub is all about.

Postby neptronix » Mon Jan 09, 2012 10:00 pm

auraslip wrote:I submitted the video to the motorcycle subreddit http://www.reddit.com/r/motorcycles/com ... ing_sport/

Looks like it gave some gas bikers some insecurity issues...


Don't you know? the only reason luke won was because those gas bikers didn't know how to launch :lol:
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Re: Luke's commuter bicycle. What Non-hub is all about.

Postby gor. » Mon Jan 09, 2012 10:09 pm

neptronix wrote:
auraslip wrote:I submitted the video to the motorcycle subreddit http://www.reddit.com/r/motorcycles/com ... ing_sport/

Looks like it gave some gas bikers some insecurity issues...


Don't you know? the only reason luke won was because those gas bikers didn't know how to launch :lol:

they also "didn't know how to ride, how to stop, didn't expected that, been surprised, confused, and unexperienced, and 17-year old"...
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Re: Luke's commuter bicycle. What Non-hub is all about.

Postby Whiplash » Mon Jan 09, 2012 11:13 pm

neptronix wrote:
auraslip wrote:I submitted the video to the motorcycle subreddit http://www.reddit.com/r/motorcycles/com ... ing_sport/

Looks like it gave some gas bikers some insecurity issues...


Don't you know? the only reason luke won was because those gas bikers didn't know how to launch :lol:



As much as I want to believe the bike can beat literbikes, I have to say I think I could rip it a new one with my old 954. I mean I could hit 60the in first gear! It just seemed like theyvwere going easy. I know my bike was almost impossible to keep the wheel down when I was really on it and I didn't see a single wheelie from the sport bikes..
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Re: Luke's commuter bicycle. What Non-hub is all about.

Postby liveforphysics » Mon Jan 09, 2012 11:42 pm

I owned a R6, a GSX-R 750, a Honda 954, and my current built GSX-R 1000, which is MASSIVELY faster than my previous sportbikes (and has smoked every other liter bike I've ever raced with it).

This bike is fast. When we do roll-on's against the GSX-R 1000 from about 30mph with the GSX-R in 2nd, the bicycle just explodes ahead of the GSX-R until the bicycle runs out of gear.

From a roll-on with the GSX-R in 1st gear with the front tire of the GSX-R just skimming the ground, they pull dead-even, and it just depends on who got the better start to determine who wins.

In the case of the bicycle though, it's almost effortless to get a perfect start everytime, where the motorcycles tend to struggle to really launch effectively, which requires reving the engine way up, and slipping the clutch hard, but not TOO hard or you flip on your back in the blink of an eye. lol
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Re: Luke's commuter bicycle. What Non-hub is all about.

Postby parabellum » Mon Jan 09, 2012 11:46 pm

Whiplash wrote:As much as I want to believe the bike can beat literbikes, I have to say I think I could rip it a new one with my old 954. I mean I could hit 60the in first gear! It just seemed like theyvwere going easy. I know my bike was almost impossible to keep the wheel down when I was really on it and I didn't see a single wheelie from the sport bikes..


I have one fireblade to and will not be surprised if it can beat Lukes bike under certain condition. Important think is: The glory and pride of gas powered super bikes is OVER! This is just the beginning. :D
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Re: Luke's commuter bicycle. What Non-hub is all about.

Postby VoKuS » Tue Jan 10, 2012 12:22 am

Luke I love your insane ebike!

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Re: Luke's commuter bicycle. What Non-hub is all about.

Postby Whiplash » Tue Jan 10, 2012 9:22 am

Ok Luke you got me convinced! So how much power DOES it put down then?? ;-)
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Re: Luke's commuter bicycle. What Non-hub is all about.

Postby j3tch1u » Tue Jan 10, 2012 9:51 am

I LOVE IT!! however inconsequential we tend to see the present value, it is the sum of the parts (like this) that leads to a monumental shift in paradigm. e-bikes are at the leading edge--the subtle force that produces inevitable change. once it goes viral, this video will be a real eye-opener.

btw, great job keeping the front end down. i'm curious, what is the wheelbase (bb to rear axle)?
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Re: Luke's commuter bicycle. What Non-hub is all about.

Postby Tommy L » Fri Jan 13, 2012 9:08 am

Awesome work here Luke! I've heard of the EV grin and have experienced it often, but this is a whole new level. lol
I will call it: "EV Euphoria" :)

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Hence...... EV Euphoria! :)

I've got the bug and the 30mph club I've achieved just isn't good enough anymore. lol
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If I choose to make a EV Moto, then 60+ mph will most certainly be my goal.

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Re: Luke's commuter bicycle. What Non-hub is all about.

Postby Alan B » Fri Jan 13, 2012 9:20 am

So Luke's ebike is equivalent to a drug. Makes sense. :)
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Re: Luke's commuter bicycle. What Non-hub is all about.

Postby Tommy L » Fri Jan 13, 2012 6:06 pm

Alan B wrote:So Luke's ebike is equivalent to a drug. Makes sense. :)



To me, the word "Drug" is any addiction. Some are more fun and others are destructive :twisted: and some are both....in a good way! 8)
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Re: Luke's commuter bicycle. What Non-hub is all about.

Postby Kurt » Sat Jan 14, 2012 6:03 am

That link to the sports bike forum was a good laugh

Rough Quote: He is only faster because he has a better power to weigh :? :?:

Rough Quote : He is only faster because electric motors produce huge torque off idle :? :?:

Rough Quote : He is only faster because he is limiting the race speed to his bikes top speed :? :?:

Rough Quote : He is only faster because he is racing people in a area with limited amount of braking room?

Isn't all the above like saying a F1 car is only faster than a ride on lawn mower because is has better power to weight and more torque. :?

As for the limited amount of braking room comment. What are they trying to say ? Perhaps Luke's bike doesn't have to pull up and stop in the same amount of space :?: . To me that sports bike forum sounds like a bunch of 14 yo kids or adults that have had a lobotomy at birth .



Thanks for making the video's Luke it puts the speed of the bike into perspective seeing it run with some known factory ICE bikes.

Although the videos were fun. The truth will all come out when you run it at the 1/4 mile. No one can argue with a 1/4 mile time slip. We will have all the raw data on paper then. We will have a true comparable numbers we can match up with sports bike specs and get a idea where this e bike stands.

Good luck with the drag racing tomorrow.

PS, Get it on video (and make sure who ever is filming gets the time board in the video as you pass the line) It gives me the shits when I see 1/4 mile vid's and they don't show the time clock :?

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Re: Luke's commuter bicycle. What Non-hub is all about.

Postby nicobie » Sat Jan 14, 2012 2:21 pm

Kurt wrote:
Good luck with the drag racing tomorrow.


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Is that still on? I was wanting to go but forgot all about it.
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Re: Luke's commuter bicycle. What Non-hub is all about.

Postby liveforphysics » Sat Jan 14, 2012 4:04 pm

It is still on, and ive been working on the bike a ton to prepare for tomorrow.

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Re: Luke's commuter bicycle. What Non-hub is all about.

Postby grindz145 » Sat Jan 14, 2012 4:07 pm

Jesus, You could really use motorcycle wheels/tires. That's stupid power.
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Re: Luke's commuter bicycle. What Non-hub is all about.

Postby sn0wchyld » Sat Jan 14, 2012 7:05 pm

:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

your 'tweaking' your settings in order to add.... oh, only a casual 2x what my PEAK power is. WTF. I just felt my manhood shrink back up into my stomach just a little...

The comments on the bike forum are hilarious. even though some are true, the same could be said for any two competing bikes... 'oh his bike is lighter and has more torque, thats why he won...' - lol, no shit Sherlock, thats the point...

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Re: Luke's commuter bicycle. What Non-hub is all about.

Postby nicobie » Sat Jan 14, 2012 8:03 pm

liveforphysics wrote:It is still on, and ive been working on the bike a ton to prepare for tomorrow.



no time for me to pick pick up the 5k generator, but will have the weak 3.5k :oops:

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Re: Luke's commuter bicycle. What Non-hub is all about.

Postby Stevil_Knevil » Sat Jan 14, 2012 9:03 pm

liveforphysics wrote:It is still on..


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Re: Luke's commuter bicycle. What Non-hub is all about.

Postby liveforphysics » Sat Jan 14, 2012 9:43 pm

Damn damn damn damn!!!!


The Infinion schedule now says tomorrow is BRACKETS!!! BOOOOO!!!! And the test and tune is Monday now...

This SUCKS!

I'm going to call them tomorrow morning and see if they will let me make exhibition passes during the bracket event, but I'm doubtful.

I can see if I can get out of work to do it Monday, but it's all ready a pretty full work day for me, and I don't know if it will be possible.

Looks like Saturday's Test-and-tune at Sacramento raceway may be my next chance to run... :'(

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Re: Luke's commuter bicycle. What Non-hub is all about.

Postby John in CR » Sun Jan 15, 2012 12:15 am

Work Sunday. Play Monday.
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