Luke's commuter bicycle. What Non-hub is all about.

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Re: Luke's commuter bicycle. What Non-hub is all about.

Postby Tommy L » Fri Jan 13, 2012 6:06 pm

Alan B wrote:So Luke's ebike is equivalent to a drug. Makes sense. :)



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Re: Luke's commuter bicycle. What Non-hub is all about.

Postby Kurt » Sat Jan 14, 2012 6:03 am

That link to the sports bike forum was a good laugh

Rough Quote: He is only faster because he has a better power to weigh :? :?:

Rough Quote : He is only faster because electric motors produce huge torque off idle :? :?:

Rough Quote : He is only faster because he is limiting the race speed to his bikes top speed :? :?:

Rough Quote : He is only faster because he is racing people in a area with limited amount of braking room?

Isn't all the above like saying a F1 car is only faster than a ride on lawn mower because is has better power to weight and more torque. :?

As for the limited amount of braking room comment. What are they trying to say ? Perhaps Luke's bike doesn't have to pull up and stop in the same amount of space :?: . To me that sports bike forum sounds like a bunch of 14 yo kids or adults that have had a lobotomy at birth .



Thanks for making the video's Luke it puts the speed of the bike into perspective seeing it run with some known factory ICE bikes.

Although the videos were fun. The truth will all come out when you run it at the 1/4 mile. No one can argue with a 1/4 mile time slip. We will have all the raw data on paper then. We will have a true comparable numbers we can match up with sports bike specs and get a idea where this e bike stands.

Good luck with the drag racing tomorrow.

PS, Get it on video (and make sure who ever is filming gets the time board in the video as you pass the line) It gives me the shits when I see 1/4 mile vid's and they don't show the time clock :?

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Re: Luke's commuter bicycle. What Non-hub is all about.

Postby nicobie » Sat Jan 14, 2012 2:21 pm

Kurt wrote:
Good luck with the drag racing tomorrow.


Kurt



Is that still on? I was wanting to go but forgot all about it.
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Re: Luke's commuter bicycle. What Non-hub is all about.

Postby liveforphysics » Sat Jan 14, 2012 4:04 pm

It is still on, and ive been working on the bike a ton to prepare for tomorrow.

***** EDIT The schedule now has Sunday as a bracket-race day, and MONDAY as the test-and-tune... I will call in the morning and see if they will let it run exhibition at the bracket event, but it's doubtful... EDIT******

Its getting 5s cells added to the pack, which means i can onlt charge to 4v per cell, which is almost exactly the internal resistance minimum point, so the pack is going to be as mean of a power source as can even be connected to a sevcon.

The controller has some other setrings we are going to crank up as well. Should wring another 5-10 ponys from the setup.

Putting a fresh tire on her as well. Thinking about making a video of doing a fire burnout on the existing tire until it explodes.
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Re: Luke's commuter bicycle. What Non-hub is all about.

Postby grindz145 » Sat Jan 14, 2012 4:07 pm

Jesus, You could really use motorcycle wheels/tires. That's stupid power.
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Re: Luke's commuter bicycle. What Non-hub is all about.

Postby sn0wchyld » Sat Jan 14, 2012 7:05 pm

:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

your 'tweaking' your settings in order to add.... oh, only a casual 2x what my PEAK power is. WTF. I just felt my manhood shrink back up into my stomach just a little...

The comments on the bike forum are hilarious. even though some are true, the same could be said for any two competing bikes... 'oh his bike is lighter and has more torque, thats why he won...' - lol, no shit Sherlock, thats the point...

cant wait for the slips 'n' vids...
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Re: Luke's commuter bicycle. What Non-hub is all about.

Postby nicobie » Sat Jan 14, 2012 8:03 pm

liveforphysics wrote:It is still on, and ive been working on the bike a ton to prepare for tomorrow.



no time for me to pick pick up the 5k generator, but will have the weak 3.5k :oops:

What time to meet at the track?
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Re: Luke's commuter bicycle. What Non-hub is all about.

Postby Stevil_Knevil » Sat Jan 14, 2012 9:03 pm

liveforphysics wrote:It is still on..


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Re: Luke's commuter bicycle. What Non-hub is all about.

Postby liveforphysics » Sat Jan 14, 2012 9:43 pm

Damn damn damn damn!!!!


The Infinion schedule now says tomorrow is BRACKETS!!! BOOOOO!!!! And the test and tune is Monday now...

This SUCKS!

I'm going to call them tomorrow morning and see if they will let me make exhibition passes during the bracket event, but I'm doubtful.

I can see if I can get out of work to do it Monday, but it's all ready a pretty full work day for me, and I don't know if it will be possible.

Looks like Saturday's Test-and-tune at Sacramento raceway may be my next chance to run... :'(

:x :x :x :x :( :( :( :(
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Re: Luke's commuter bicycle. What Non-hub is all about.

Postby John in CR » Sun Jan 15, 2012 12:15 am

Work Sunday. Play Monday.
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Re: Luke's commuter bicycle. What Non-hub is all about.

Postby Thud » Sun Jan 15, 2012 1:44 am

I can't imagine a better set up for bracket racing.
just peg it....every run.
get some......

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Re: Luke's commuter bicycle. What Non-hub is all about.

Postby dingoEsride » Mon Jan 16, 2012 3:41 am

re: from the vid. "aah! do ya wanna race my bicycle with your motorbike?" Ha Ha great stuff, such a teaser, that thing goes flies, want to see more
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Re: Luke's commuter bicycle. What Non-hub is all about.

Postby hydro-one » Thu Jan 19, 2012 11:20 pm

Love it !!!!!!!! :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

So , you need a higher voltage , or gearbox, to really wax those ICE guys? U should put a bunch of LED lights on her and does she have a name yet?

Im going to go look at sevcons catalog.

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Re: Luke's commuter bicycle. What Non-hub is all about.

Postby liveforphysics » Thu Jan 19, 2012 11:51 pm

Thank you for the kind words guys.

She is getting a little piggy-back nano-tech booster pack added into her tomorrow. Because, you know, the 80 to 100mph time really could use some improvement, superbikes can pull ahead of me there you know.

I've been taking her to lunch almost everyday. It's such an intense beast to ride. And so quiet. It's seriously more quiet than most hubmotors.

Absolutely every ounce of thrust your heart desires is available at the twist of the wrist, you just twist back as far as your balls and strength at clinging on allows.

I would really like to see a light weight rider with a death-wish try the bike. It's hard for me to imagine what it would feel like accelerating faster than it currently does, but this is something a lighter weight rider has the ability to find out. Makes me want to diet. :-)
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Re: Luke's commuter bicycle. What Non-hub is all about.

Postby ZOMGVTEK » Fri Jan 20, 2012 12:20 am

If I consider a stock new CBR600RR to be slow and boring, what is this bike?
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Re: Luke's commuter bicycle. What Non-hub is all about.

Postby liveforphysics » Fri Jan 20, 2012 12:25 am

ZOMGVTEK wrote:If I consider a stock new CBR600RR to be slow and boring, what is this bike?



I also consider a CBR600RR to be dull. I pin the throttle and want to take a nap between gears.


This will not make you sleepy. This is the acceleration of an angry liter-bike, but while trying to cling to a bicycle seat and bicycle handle bars, modulating throttle to avoid flipping over or fishtailing.

It's pretty intense. If you've got full leathers, you're welcome to come take it for a spin and rate it for yourself. It might not leave you with as much skin as you started your ride with, but it won't leave you disappointed.
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Re: Luke's commuter bicycle. What Non-hub is all about.

Postby ZOMGVTEK » Fri Jan 20, 2012 12:30 am

Sounds fun. The only issue is the 2,800 miles I would need to cover to make that happen.

Find a $1,000 Insight and aero mod it?
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Re: Luke's commuter bicycle. What Non-hub is all about.

Postby lostrack » Fri Jan 20, 2012 3:58 am

Why hasn't someone tried to replicate this yet?
Luke I'm sure you have had inbox overload - is anyone having a crack?

strapping a normal controller (easier to program than a sevcon) to the rig would make it happen right? Even a electric motorbike controller like those on Jozztek would do. (assuming Luke's controller you need a degree in abstract binary to program)

http://www.jozztek.com/shop/controllers/40-soliton-jr.html

Go on......goo onnnnn.....

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Re: Luke's commuter bicycle. What Non-hub is all about.

Postby Jozzer » Fri Jan 20, 2012 4:13 am

Unfortionatly that controller is for a brushed motor. Luke hasn't gotten round to strapping an 11" Netgain motor and Soliton 1 controller to his bike...yet;)

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Re: Luke's commuter bicycle. What Non-hub is all about.

Postby liveforphysics » Fri Jan 20, 2012 6:22 am

Jozzer wrote:Unfortionatly that controller is for a brushed motor. Luke hasn't gotten round to strapping an 11" Netgain motor and Soliton 1 controller to his bike...yet;)

Steve


You know me better than that Jozz. It would be a warp13 and an ampzilla. ;-)
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Re: Luke's commuter bicycle. What Non-hub is all about.

Postby jingles98 » Fri Jan 20, 2012 12:55 pm

If it wasn't for Google maps i'd get lost at #86. http://g.co/maps/mm2cw So i'll see you some time early August for a test ride? LOL. 128lb and crazy as :-)
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Re: Luke's commuter bicycle. What Non-hub is all about.

Postby nicobie » Fri Jan 20, 2012 2:33 pm

jingles98 wrote:If it wasn't for Google maps i'd get lost at #86. http://g.co/maps/mm2cw So i'll see you some time early August for a test ride? LOL. 128lb and crazy as :-)



At least you'll be in proper shape for riding it...

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Re: Luke's commuter bicycle. What Non-hub is all about.

Postby Wheazel » Fri Jan 20, 2012 8:01 pm

Wonderful project and very fun to read about! Early in the thread you provide a spec of parts and talk about the complicated controller setup.
How complicated is it really? Possible to manage by reading manuals and having basic electric and engineering knowledge or does it require some hardcore electronics knowledge?
What applications are these sevcons normally used in? I am thinking its a big problem for the brand if the controller is half impossible to setup.
Performance wise it seems to be a good controller for an amateur built electric motorbike.
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Re: Luke's commuter bicycle. What Non-hub is all about.

Postby rebelpilot » Fri Jan 20, 2012 9:07 pm

jingles98 wrote:If it wasn't for Google maps i'd get lost at #86. http://g.co/maps/mm2cw So i'll see you some time early August for a test ride? LOL. 128lb and crazy as :-)

Be sure to wear good walking shoes, and maybe get some better directions. :lol:
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Re: Luke's commuter bicycle. What Non-hub is all about.

Postby emoped » Sat Jan 21, 2012 4:31 am

Well played LUKE ...... AWESOME !
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