Luke's commuter bicycle. What Non-hub is all about.

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Re: Luke's commuter bicycle. What Non-hub is all about.

Postby GITech » Tue Feb 14, 2012 5:37 pm

Hi Luke,

You posted a link to dirt/pocket bike brakes and it's got me interested. Can you give us more info and maybe some closeup pics of how you fit them up?

A few questions:
- Can you use regular bike rotors, or..?
- Did you have to make custom mounts/adaptors?
- Good for front? = http://www.partsforscooters.com/Hydraul ... gory=77226
- Good for rear? = http://www.partsforscooters.com/Rear-Hy ... gory=77225

BTW I'm thinking of using these rotors, at least for the front, (I have fox-40's): http://67.192.138.90/detail/17757-115_H ... dapter.htm

Any thoughts you have on this would be greatly appreciated. :)

Thanks,
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Re: Luke's commuter bicycle. What Non-hub is all about.

Postby lostrack » Tue Feb 14, 2012 5:47 pm

GITech wrote:Hi Luke,

You posted a link to dirt/pocket bike brakes and it's got me interested. Can you give us more info and maybe some closeup pics of how you fit them up?

A few questions:
- Can you use regular bike rotors, or..?
- Did you have to make custom mounts/adaptors?
- Good for front? = http://www.partsforscooters.com/Hydraul ... gory=77226
- Good for rear? = http://www.partsforscooters.com/Rear-Hy ... gory=77225

BTW I'm thinking of using these rotors, at least for the front, (I have fox-40's): http://67.192.138.90/detail/17757-115_H ... dapter.htm

Any thoughts you have on this would be greatly appreciated. :)

Thanks,
Jay


Hey Jay,

Funny - I run fox 40s and hayes stroker 203s. They're powerful brakes but the foxes do dive under heavy braking. Need to get them setup for the extra weight. A little spongey.
FYI. (Although I'm sure an extra inch will make all the difference...that's what she said, whey.)
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Re: Luke's commuter bicycle. What Non-hub is all about.

Postby liveforphysics » Tue Feb 14, 2012 6:15 pm

I have some brake pics. It's a floating rotor from a superbike with a twin-piston motorcycle caliper.

Making brake disk adapter.
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Figuring out where to put the caliper.

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Modding caliper to not hit the spokes, and to let me make my mount bracket simple.

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First bracket setup.
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Ended up swapping forks, and now it has a little different mounting setup, but same concept.


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Re: Luke's commuter bicycle. What Non-hub is all about.

Postby Thud » Tue Feb 14, 2012 6:21 pm

off topic,

Luke, I am going to be at the international motorcycle show in Indy this saturday.
Will Zero be there? I'll be Looking for your team buddy!

back on topic Ya'll!
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get some......

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Re: Luke's commuter bicycle. What Non-hub is all about.

Postby GITech » Tue Feb 14, 2012 6:23 pm

Thanks Luke,

So bike rotors will not work, ie too thin?

Have you (ever) used the calipers in the links posted?

Nice mod BTW!

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Re: Luke's commuter bicycle. What Non-hub is all about.

Postby liveforphysics » Tue Feb 14, 2012 6:26 pm

Thud wrote:off topic,

Luke, I am going to be at the international motorcycle show in Indy this saturday.
Will Zero be there? I'll be Looking for your team buddy!

back on topic Ya'll!
:mrgreen:



I know they were just in Chicago last weekend for a show, and likely will be at Indy. I will tell them to let you have a rip (if they have the opportunity to give test-rides at least) if you like my friend. I recommend you take the DS model, it's my personal favorite of the 2012 lineup. Pretty damn nice machine.
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Re: Luke's commuter bicycle. What Non-hub is all about.

Postby liveforphysics » Tue Feb 14, 2012 6:27 pm

GITech wrote:Thanks Luke,

So bike rotors will not work, ie too thin?

Have you (ever) used the calipers in the links posted?

Nice mod BTW!

Jay


Bicycle rotors always had excellent stopper performance and feel, for about 1 aggressive stop from >80mph. On the second stop, they are warping badly... and by the 3rd or 4th stop, they are generally wadded up into junk.
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Re: Luke's commuter bicycle. What Non-hub is all about.

Postby lostrack » Mon Feb 20, 2012 1:58 pm

morevideospleasethankyou:)
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Re: Luke's commuter bicycle. What Non-hub is all about.

Postby Scott » Sat Mar 10, 2012 11:46 pm

This is my favorite electric bike by far. It took 3 days of my minimal free time to read through all the post. :lol:

The question I have is: how are you charging all of your batteries? Do you charge them separately or do you charge them all together? If you charge them all together what charger are you using or how are you doing this?

Also would you mind posting some pictures of your real wheel and how you have the chain set up and are able to fit the rear brake in?
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Re: Luke's commuter bicycle. What Non-hub is all about.

Postby Dauntless » Mon Mar 12, 2012 1:03 am

liveforphysics wrote:
Ypedal wrote:I think u should have to earn this the hard way!

My ticket price to get here was around $10,000usd in parts turned to smoke. That includes ~$2,000usd in wasting my time with. . .a couple of minutes of my riding. Then going to bigger ebike controllers, of which, the only ones I never killed were . . . beyond there limits. Smoked a number of motors that cost - - -5lbs motors to 15lbs motors to 25lbs motors, each time finding - - - it just ends in fickle designs that constantly break and smoke.


You're driving me CRAZY! WHY haven't you written a damn BOOK about this already? Do you think the rest of us are really going to get it just from your posts? If I asked people to respond to this to encourage you, there'd probably be 30+ posts in 24 hours. . . .


I mean, even after reading this stuff posted here, I'm going to be working with some of those small motors. (I notice how damn big the various about halfway to 1kw brushed motors are, even if it's supposed to be a kids' toy.) Believe me, I've seen a lot of what's published, most of which is a waste of time. But the books keep selling. Like that old song, the readers are holding out for a hero.

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In the end, the simplicity and durability is just worth it to carry an extra 10-15lbs of motor around.


Now if you're excuse me there's still 3 months worth of this I have to read to get caught up. (Note how old the post I'm quoting is.) You've got me about ready to buy this toasted motor Chinese sportbike that's for sale around here even if it is overpriced, so I can . . . .
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Re: Luke's commuter bicycle. What Non-hub is all about.

Postby gor. » Sun Mar 25, 2012 2:41 pm

liveforphysics wrote:We had rain storms last weekend... no 1/4mile videos yet... maybe sunday.. fingers crossed.

how you doing, Luke? is your bike stil alive? semms like you broke it already - any times, recrds, dyno data left?
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Re: Luke's commuter bicycle. What Non-hub is all about.

Postby silverrich1 » Sun Mar 25, 2012 5:14 pm

that's because she's a moneymaker. you can bet you could race her against most bikes / cars and win betting her.

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I've had 2 nibbles all ready, but since I'm giving away $9,500 of the $15,000 asking price to other well deserving folks, I'm not really willing to compromise on the price, and I'm not in any hurry to sell her, because I don't know that I've ever owned a vehicle that puts a bigger eat-to-ear smile across my face and leaves me white-knuckled and shaking after every ride.
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Re: Luke's commuter bicycle. What Non-hub is all about.

Postby deVries » Sun Apr 29, 2012 5:05 am

liveforphysics wrote:Sat Jan 28, 2012 2:36 am We had rain storms last weekend... no 1/4mile videos yet... maybe sunday.. fingers crossed.

I did not cheat & skip to the end of this thread to get the results, :D but when I did get there/here...

No 1/4 mile. :P

Luke must be doing waayyy tooo much overtime at ZERO? :idea: :twisted:

I haven't seen Luke so hyper-expressive about "the power" & "control" he wields at such extreme accelerations or slow speeds climbing stairs. Is it really an e-"bicycle" -seriously. When it gets fried it is. :lol:

Maybe that's what happened to the 1/4 mile ... something fried or snapped. :idea:

Luke, take a break from work & run the quarter. Enough already. :twisted:
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Re: Luke's commuter bicycle. What Non-hub is all about.

Postby The Mighty Volt » Mon Jun 18, 2012 9:15 am

I just bought a pretty expensive Welder, this is where I hope to be someday, great work Luke, keep it up, cheers.

I also like the idea of harvesting parts from Chinese dirt bikes.

Great work fellows.
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Re: Luke's commuter bicycle. What Non-hub is all about.

Postby Bazaki » Wed Jun 20, 2012 3:29 pm

Luke, any exciting stories you would like to share ? If it is still your daily commuter then I wonder how many cars and bikes you have slaughtered at the traffic lights. :twisted:
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Re: Luke's commuter bicycle. What Non-hub is all about.

Postby John in CR » Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:56 pm

Bazaki wrote:Luke, any exciting stories you would like to share ? If it is still your daily commuter then I wonder how many cars and bikes you have slaughtered at the traffic lights. :twisted:


I'm quite sure the number is all of them 8)
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Re: Luke's commuter bicycle. What Non-hub is all about.

Postby liveforphysics » Wed Jun 20, 2012 6:05 pm

John in CR wrote:
Bazaki wrote:Luke, any exciting stories you would like to share ? If it is still your daily commuter then I wonder how many cars and bikes you have slaughtered at the traffic lights. :twisted:


I'm quite sure the number is all of them 8)


Bingo. :-)

My bicycle has lost to no bike or motorcycle on the street that it's encountered. It's a ripper, and commutes go very smoothly and make excellent time. :-)
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Re: Luke's commuter bicycle. What Non-hub is all about.

Postby nechaus » Wed Jun 20, 2012 7:30 pm

I wish i could see a video of your agni bike vs your gm bike!!!
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