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[louispower]

Hello all here, this is Louis from China, just found this forum(also bikeforums.net), registered today.
we were GM kits dealer and stopped with them one year ago to make our own kits, wish to know more friends here.

thanks.

[dogman]

Welcome, but post in the for sale section for this kind of thread. We love to get ALL the information on everything here on the sphere. Long discussions of your motors and batteries capabilities in the fors sale section are very welcome. Many of us do honest testing and reporting of both batteries and motors in the real world if you want that done. Unfortunately one customer that gets mad at you is often all you hear from on the various forums. The satisfied person just rides merrily away and never writes. Sending a motor or battery for one of us to test can be a good thing for you. If the thing is good, we'll tell everybody. See the review section to see what to expect.

Just watched a few videos, the 48v 500 watt looks like it would do fine. Most of us in the USA have little intrest in under 500 watts because of our ebike laws allow more power than some other places, and law enforcement mostly ignores us even when we ride 2000 watts.

[louispower]

sorry about this, not yet familiar with your rule, please move it to proper place if you need, will contact our us dealer for a kit review, how should they contact you. Could you PM me your contact details?

Thanks.

[dogman]

Read some reviews and pick an es member who does the reviews, then send them a personal message through the forum. Some of us will want a free item, others may bite on just a discount if it is something they need. Be warned though, if we don't like it, we'll still tell everybody.

[louispower]

thanks Dogman, we will do this asap. Believe they will like it.

[dogman]

Cool. It's hard not to like a good hubmotor. What we really like to blast is totally bogus claims for performance. You know what I mean, when they say, the motor will go 25 mph, and range is 25 miles, leaving unsaid that 25mile range is at 5 mph. Even some really good manufacturers let marketing guys do that. The sources for motors and batteries we really support here never make that mistake.

[lcyn]

I recently purchased a complete kit from Worldwide Electric bike. It is a geared 350W front hub with Fusin motors written on the side, so I assume it is the same motor Louis is writing about. ( I posted earlier asking if anyone knew about this kit-no one did so I purchased one hoping it was of good quality. ) I am new to E-bikes so I am probably not the best judge. I have three bikes at home--A Giant Twist which my wife rides (250W pedal assist). An EbikeKit 500W with a 36V LifePO4 and The Worldwide Kit (Fusin 350W, 36V 10AH LifePO4). I like them all--but of course they are all different animals. The Giant is fun and a great bike, and my wife loves it, but I like the speed and power so I got the Ebikekit from Jason. This is a smooth powerful motor, with good torque and speed. I probably have about 200 miles on it and am very pleased. Great battery too. Seems like my range is about 25 miles on a charge, with moderate pedaling and limited hills. I would certainly reccomend this Kit.

The Fusin is geared, with a 3speed switch on the throttle handle. it took a bit of getting used to choosing the proper setting, but now that I have it figured out I like the option of choosing settings.'
This seems like a solid and smooth hub--It is a much smaller footprint because it is geared. Racing my Granddaughter on The EBikeKIt vs the Fusin, there was no discernible difference in speed. Of course she is considerably lighter than me (by about 60 lbs). She was on the EbikeKit and I was riding the Fusin. Same type of bikes, exact same batteries. The Fusin battery is exactly like the EbikeKit from the outside--same case, etc. I do not have a clue about the inside, if it is the same unit or not. The charger is the exact same make and model. Overall I am pleased with this unit, and would reccomend it also.

[Russell]

Hello all here, this is Louis from China, just found this forum(also bikeforums.net), registered today.
we were GM kits dealer and stopped with them one year ago to make our own kits, wish to know more friends here.

thanks.

Hello Louispower,

Can you tell me exactly what the 3-speed "gear switch" does? Can the controller be used with a conventional hall type thumb throttle? What RPM is the 36V front motor?

I might like to buy a FRONT motor/wheel (700C) but I would only want the hub motor in the wheel, the controller and the throttle/gear switch if the extra 3-wire hall thumb throttle I have will not work; is this possible?

-R

[wanders]

Hello all here, this is Louis from China, just found this forum(also bikeforums.net), registered today.
we were GM kits dealer and stopped with them one year ago to make our own kits.

Louis, regarding your kits, on your website you have a multi-gear rear motor with disc brake option called the FMR250/350. How does this hub motor differ from the Bafang SWXH motor of similar configuration? In particular, you claim this kit to support regenerative braking. If so, it cannot freewheel, right?

Welcome to ES - you'll find that ES participants want to know technical details regarding products. And that independent testing of equipment by highly-regarded ES members (Hi Doc!) with good results is the best publicity you will find here.

[louispower]

Hello all here, this is Louis from China, just found this forum(also bikeforums.net), registered today.
we were GM kits dealer and stopped with them one year ago to make our own kits, wish to know more friends here.

thanks.

Hello Louispower,

Can you tell me exactly what the 3-speed "gear switch" does? Can the controller be used with a conventional hall type thumb throttle? What RPM is the 36V front motor?

I might like to buy a FRONT motor/wheel (700C) but I would only want the hub motor in the wheel, the controller and the throttle/gear switch if the extra 3-wire hall thumb throttle I have will not work; is this possible?

-R

Hi Russell,

the 3 speeds gear consists "L" 'M" "H" gears for selecting low speed, medium speed and high speed, this could be selected mannualy by the cycler according to the terrian on which he is driving, low speed means higher torque.

This switch is cabled together with throttle and brake levers, accordingly on the controller there is another connector to connect with them. The rated rpm is 250.

I would suggest you to contact the seller directly by ebay for purchasing http://stores.shop.ebay.com/Worldwide-Electric-Bikes__W0QQ_armrsZ1.

Thanks.

[louispower]

Hello all here, this is Louis from China, just found this forum(also bikeforums.net), registered today.
we were GM kits dealer and stopped with them one year ago to make our own kits.

Louis, regarding your kits, on your website you have a multi-gear rear motor with disc brake option called the FMR250/350. How does this hub motor differ from the Bafang SWXH motor of similar configuration? In particular, you claim this kit to support regenerative braking. If so, it cannot freewheel, right?

Welcome to ES - you'll find that ES participants want to know technical details regarding products. And that independent testing of equipment by highly-regarded ES members (Hi Doc!) with good results is the best publicity you will find here.

Wanders, only our multiple speeds rear wheel kit is powered by Bafang motor.
As of regenerative it was answered, see here.

Most gearmotors freewheel, so how can it have regen? Of course the controller could have regen, but a motor with an internal freewheel wouldn't make any current.

Very professional

Its regenerative braking and both EABS is activated by the controller, at the moment the cycler brakes the bike the controller will detect this and generate a “reverse voltage ” higher than the battery voltage to charge the battery, this happens only at the moment (several seconds) the cycler starts to brake the bike. The EABS also starts to brake the motor, so even if the bike is without mechanical brake it will be also braked. (Of course we donot recommend this).

Why we combine the gearmotor with regenerative. First reason the regenerative does works when starting to brake although it lasts only several seconds, ands the EABS increases the driving safety; Second reason is nobody will cycle his electric bike(with non-freewheeled motor) to charge the battery, the resistance will make this impossible; last, the freewheeled motor lets the driving more esaier when battery is out of power, compared with normal motor.

Yes I have found this place very attractive, I think we will soon arrange a test by professionals here. Many thanks!

[dnmun]

Icyn, i see you are in ft collins, mahoney is there too. eventually i will get back home myself.

can you post up a picture of your motor? it appears louis is selling the bafang hub motor, and if so then all these claims of regen are bogus. which he may not realize.

can you tell if the motor is freewheeling forward, but there is resistance when you manually turn the wheel backwards? what else came with your kit. what does you controller look like and did you get a lifepo4 battery with it?

louis is showing us a pedelec system, not sure what the controller is but wondered if your controller is similar and if you also have pedelec. i think pedelec is the law throughout europe, so that is why they have implemented pedelec at his fusin site.

BOL,dm

[lcyn]

dmnum--I will take a picture of the hub and post it. It does not appear to be the Bafang unit--some minor differences in appearance. It is freewheeling forward, and I do not discern any real resistance backwards, although I have not really tested it. I will test this further Sunday. It is a 36V 10 AH LifePO4 battery, as far as I can tell exactly like the battery that came with my EBikeKIt. I have not opened them up to compare the innards--usually if I take something apart I have a few extra parts when I reassemble it. Good battery. I chose not to use the pedelec system, although it is offered as part of the kit. I may have Steve at Worldwide send it to me if I decide to use it. I tend to like the throttle control better. (My wife has pedelec on her Giant Twist freedom, and although its nice, it isn't as fun as the throttle.) If You or Mahoney would like to look at the unit and try it out, PM me -- you are sure welcome to give it a full workout. I also have the EBikeKIt, and you can give that a test also. Your input would probably be better than mine, and very appreciated---I really don't know a lot about E-bikes--just that I love to ride them and am having an enormous amount of fun.

[Russell]

the 3 speeds gear consists "L" 'M" "H" gears for selecting low speed, medium speed and high speed, this could be selected mannualy by the cycler according to the terrian on which he is driving, low speed means higher torque.

Sorry but you are still not telling me what the switch actually does. Your answer is like telling me "the left shifter on my bike selects L-M-H" when what I would want to know is "the left shifter moves a cable which actuates a mechanism called a derailleur which moves the chain between three chainrings of varying size". See my point? So if the motor is a conventional fixed ratio planetary gear drive then how does the L-M-H gearing work? Are there selectable windings in the motor or does the controller vary the current or limit the throttle a set amount for the L-M-H settings? I do really want to know how this works since I have not seen this feature on any other hub motor kit.

-R

[lcyn]

Dmnum--since you and Mahoney are from the Ft. Collins area, do you know if there is a 12 step program for Ebike addiction?