Motor Excellence

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saw this on electricbikereport,

http://www.motorexcellence.com/
http://www.azdailysun.com/business/local/article_f76e133c-c801-5e64-9a63-cd7d501b7dcf.html

http://www.motorexcellence.com/company/development-process/markets/e-bikes/

med-bike_motor.jpg
 
non hub motor drives....
 
It's got spoke holes on both sides. They just hiding behind the disk, and are offset which is good. Nice that it has a disk mount. Can't say it impresses me though. Now if it had a design with a built in torque arm and round axle like the heinzmanns, and made for 5000 watts we'd perk up and get interested.
 
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From sk8's link:

The company got its start when Southwest Windpower co-founder David Calley made a passing reference to an idea he had for an electric motor while talking with the co-founder of Petsmart, Michael Manson. He was hoping Manson would invest in the wind turbine manufacturer.

"By the end of the meeting, David said: By the way, I've got this other technology I am working on," Manson remembered.

Seven hours later, the two men were still talking about an electric motor with unparalleled advances in efficiency, torque, power, weight and design flexibility that would be used in automotive, industrial, defense, aerospace and consumer applications. So which company did Manson eventually invest in?

"Both, but a minor investment in Southwest Windpower and a major, lifetime investment in Motor Excellence," Manson said.


It was Southwest Windpower that made the motor for my eMoulton....
 
"Both, but a minor investment in Southwest Windpower and a major, lifetime investment in Motor Excellence," Manson said.[/i]

It was Southwest Windpower that made the motor for my eMoulton....

Whoa! That definitely kicks it up a notch! Thanks Miles!
otherDoc
 
I wouldn't write it off. I met a couple of their engineers when I was visiting a trade show. They were there in the Cologne show recently, over from the USA. There is a full time Engineering staff of over 20 Engineers AFAIK, that have been developing this motor for something like 5 years, with funding, they haven't commercialised it yet. Someone must think there is something in it and the guys seemed pretty confident in the motor :)
 
Hi Guys,

When is too good to be true ... anyway we just have to wait until 2012 to see this "excellent" motor on the market :lol:

It's my 2 cents, good day!
Black Arrow
 
I really like it..would like to read more about flux system inside .....(read = more pictures :))
 
Miles said:
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From sk8's link:

The company got its start when Southwest Windpower co-founder David Calley made a passing reference to an idea he had for an electric motor while talking with the co-founder of Petsmart, Michael Manson. He was hoping Manson would invest in the wind turbine manufacturer.

"By the end of the meeting, David said: By the way, I've got this other technology I am working on," Manson remembered.

Seven hours later, the two men were still talking about an electric motor with unparalleled advances in efficiency, torque, power, weight and design flexibility that would be used in automotive, industrial, defense, aerospace and consumer applications. So which company did Manson eventually invest in?

"Both, but a minor investment in Southwest Windpower and a major, lifetime investment in Motor Excellence," Manson said.


It was Southwest Windpower that made the motor for my eMoulton....


Look at miles picture...The top of the motor is probably air cooled ...You can see the square holes....Because its axial..it can efficiently cool the motor at housing in that way.-..by having intake fan or rotor like Agni that acts like a small turbine while working.. ..Just an observation...
 
ehehe..thanks Miles but something that obvious shouldn't be brought up.. i am too fast with conclusions... Any pics of magnets inside?i couldnt find it..
 
It looks like the magnets are embedded in the T shaped rotor.

Interesting design. Do you have any details on the motor you are using on your bike Miles?
 
johnrobholmes said:
Do you have any details on the motor you are using on your bike Miles?
It's the same design that Randy used. The stator is from a Ford alternator (no longer available, unfortunately) with a new PM rotor and cast aluminium case. Southwest windpower made a small run of them as Planet Ryder.

See also: http://www.endless-sphere.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=79670#p79670
 
The internal structure of these motors means that it has something like 100 poles in a fairly small hub motor. That is how they get good torque and efficiency in a slow speed hub motor. I'm not sure how they achieve this, but that is what they have been developing for the last few years and apparently the motor is near to being in production according to the Engineer I spoke with (they had travelled from USA to Germany just to have a look around at the show, they weren't even exhibiting). Lots of money has been thrown at this company and this motor design. I think there's something a bit special about these motors.
 
http://www.eaa.org/news/2011/2011-05-05_cafe2.asp
CAFE Symposium Celebrates the 'Dawn of Electric Flight'
Part 2
By Patrick Panzera, Editor — Experimenter, EAA 555743

Part 1

May 3, 2011 —Picking up where we left off in Part I of this series, David Calley, Co-Founder and Chief Technology Officer of Motor Excellence gave his presentation “Ideal Electric Aircraft Motors.” The primary point Calley made was that a key barrier to widespread adoption of electric vehicles is the additional cost above comparable internal combustion engine vehicles due to large, expensive batteries.

The focus of Motor Excellence has been to develop lighter, highly efficient, and thermally stable motors that provide the same power and torque at a lower power demand than the current state-of-the-art motor technology allows. This enables a significant reduction in battery size and cost, netting a result similar to increased battery energy density.

Coming from the wind generator side of the clean-energy movement, with generators and electric motors having much in common, Calley, the founder of Southwest Windpower, brings his decades of experience from creating highly efficient generators to the electric motor industry. Using what he refers to as "3-D construction" (where there is only a single winding made from heavier gauge wire resulting in less resistance), Calley has designed high-torque, low-RPM, thermally stable electric motors that are suitable for direct-drive use in bicycles and automobiles. In some aviation applications however, they might need to be geared up.


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Motor Excellence feels confident that even with a shortage of rare earth magnets, they can still outperform conventional highly efficient electric motors.

Two additional points of interest Calley brought up were 1) the current rate of the world demand for eBikes is in the 30 million per year range, and 2) China controls nearly all the rare earths necessary for neodymium magnet (rare-earth magnet) production, essential in creating small, light and powerful electric motors.

While the focus of the Electric Aircraft Symposium would seemingly be electric aircraft, a lot of what was discussed was either in support of efficient flight or a seemingly practical application of electric flight where it could be potentially more efficient than an internal combustion engine.
 
I find the term 3D construction for the windings quite interesting. Considering the exterior pics I take that to mean a winding where each half turn takes on the shape of something more like a squared off U, putting the magnets both radially and axially for the same coil. Am I visualizing that correctly, so 2 of the 3 planes have the back iron flux of the winding going to the opposing side, or did I stick a toe in and fall into water way over my head?
 
SEVeral patents and applications out there... this drawing of course explains EVerything:
 
http://www.azcentral.com/business/n...-flagstaff-arizona-expands.html#ixzz1Msp9X9HG
E-bike maker Motor Excellence expands

by John Yantis - May. 19, 2011 03:07 PM
The Arizona Republic

A Flagstaff-based company that makes small electric motors is leveraging a government grant to expand it operations.

Motor Excellence opened a 13,000 square-foot manufacturing facility on Thursday to produce 5-inch electric motors for electric-powered bicycles, or e-bikes.

In 2009, the company received a $962,000 grant from the 21st Century Grant Program coordinated by the Arizona Commerce Authority. The program is designed to utilize federal stimulus funds to invest in and promote energy efficient and renewable energy products manufactured in Arizona.

Motor Excellence, founded in 2007, used some of the money to grow from a 5,000 square-foot plant that had 19 employees. It currently has 40 employees and expects that to grow to 70 by the end of the year, two years faster than originally scheduled.
 
Seen here:
http://www.azdailysun.com/business/local/article_99491d41-4311-5d20-8c6d-97021cc10847.html
An electrifying ride to work
LARRY HENDRICKS News Team Leader azdailysun.com | Posted: Thursday, May 19, 2011 A pair of gloves and a fleece jacket kept the windy morning from tearing into me. Trees creaked and groaned as the wind whipped past.

My eyes watered from the onslaught of the wind as I bicycled to work Tuesday morning.

At least I wouldn't have to worry about breaking a sweat. Because, although my legs pumped the pedals on my borrowed bike, the action was pretty much for show. Hidden in a sealed package on the bike's frame rested a battery that powered an electric motor on the rear axle. The motor provided the brunt of the heavy lifting.

Welcome to Bike to Work Week -- the easy way.

E-BIKING

My experiment in biking to work one day during Bike to Work Week was made possible by the folks at Motor Excellence in Flagstaff.

They provided me with an e-bike prototype for the day.


"If we want to get more people on bicycles instead of riding in cars, they need incentive to do it," said Marty Mares, president of the e-bike division of Motor Excellence.

Joseph Davidson, an engineer at Motor Excellence, had told me the day before that he had adjusted the motor to cap the top speed at 20 mph.

plugged the e-bike into a wall socket at the Daily Sun to let the bike recharge, but Davidson had told me the batteries also are fed juice every time I use the brakes while riding the bike. He also said that I would easily get 30 miles out of a charge on the battery.

Full article in the link...

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