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Re: Group buy Crystalyte 5404

Postby ambroseliao » Tue Aug 09, 2011 3:51 pm

So we need a USA receiver for a shipment of 10 motors and then have them ship it out from there. So shipping charges will be from this central location to your destination.

$130 and ???

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Re: Group buy Crystalyte 5404

Postby wojtek » Tue Aug 09, 2011 3:54 pm

I will be clarifying with Kenny this matter and let you know asap.

ambroseliao wrote:So we need a USA receiver for a shipment of 10 motors and then have them ship it out from there. So shipping charges will be from this central location to your destination.

$130 and ???

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Re: Group buy Crystalyte 5404

Postby wojtek » Tue Aug 09, 2011 3:57 pm

only hub motor + 7 speed freewheel

Gordo wrote:
wojtek wrote:290USD/ea
+ shipping costs
Min order quantity: 20

Please put your name and country and amount if interested.


Is this the bare hubmotor or in a wheel?
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Re: Group buy Crystalyte 5404

Postby Toorbough ULL-Zeveigh » Tue Aug 09, 2011 4:02 pm

which one has the max copper fill?
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Re: Group buy Crystalyte 5404

Postby nicobie » Tue Aug 09, 2011 4:29 pm

* sorry I have too many motors now *
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Re: Group buy Crystalyte 5404

Postby chroot » Tue Aug 09, 2011 5:58 pm

Oh sweet, I might want this one too! thanks explain the difference.

BlackArrow wrote:The magnets on an X5404 are 10 mm larger than X5304 therefore this motor as more torque and can take more power abuse (heat disspating) than X5304, I think that Stealth are using them on their stealth bomber since a while now.

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Re: Group buy Crystalyte 5404

Postby fractal » Tue Aug 09, 2011 6:51 pm

definitely IN!!! (from Gatineau, Canada -beside Ottawa)
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Re: Group buy Crystalyte 5404

Postby oatnet » Tue Aug 09, 2011 7:20 pm

Toorbough ULL-Zeveigh wrote:which one has the max copper fill?
oatnet, is that why you prefer the 5403?


Thicker gauge windings = less resistance, harder on controllers but easier to keep cool. I also thought it might be fun in a moped rim at 132v :twisted: , maybe I should ship mine straight to JRH (JohnRobHolmes) for his DOT treatment. He has laced a bunch of ebike wheels for me, fine work, decent cost. Local bike stores just look at
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Re: Group buy Crystalyte 5404

Postby Doctorbass » Tue Aug 09, 2011 7:28 pm

Toorbough ULL-Zeveigh wrote:which one has the max copper fill?
oatnet, is that why you prefer the 5403?



On the 5300 serie.. it's the 5302 that had the highest copper fill.. same for the 5304..

So i would take a 5404 ( same copper fill as 5402(if they exist)

Guys.. about the price.. just remember that few years ago we was willing to pay 500$ for an X5 to ebikes.ca....

so if it end out to 450 otr 500$ shipped to our home.. it would be really interesting for a madmax motor like this!!!

no one realy pushed his limit from now..

on my 5303.. today i pushed 232A at 112V wich is 25kW for a new top speed to 113kmh GPS measured... the cotroller is still at 75% current :twisted:

Now i imagine a motor with 33% more copper and magnet volume... OMG!!! :shock: :mrgreen:

These 5404 WILL be the next coolest motor for abuse!!!.. no gear breaking... no belt breaking... no high pitch noise... just pure , simple and power and fun!!!!

I bet that i less than one week the 30 motor will be reserved!

No worrie Wojtek :wink:




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Re: Group buy Crystalyte 5404

Postby Toorbough ULL-Zeveigh » Tue Aug 09, 2011 8:02 pm

Doctorbass wrote:On the 5300 serie.. it's the 5302 that had the highest copper fill.. same for the 5304..

So i would take a 5404 ( same copper fill as 5402(if they exist)


i thought the optimum cross-product was 24 (3X8, 4X6, etc.)
saw no reason for the 5400 to be any different but thought i'd best check.
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Re: Group buy Crystalyte 5404

Postby Deutch420 » Tue Aug 09, 2011 9:52 pm

East coast USA here. I would be interested in 1 unit if shipping isnt horrible.
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Re: Group buy Crystalyte 5404

Postby Doctorbass » Tue Aug 09, 2011 10:52 pm

Wojtek.. we are 9 interested from now in this thread... we should expect to see the 30 unit reserved really soon :mrgreen:

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Re: Group buy Crystalyte 5404

Postby Willow » Tue Aug 09, 2011 11:47 pm

Doctorbass wrote:
on my 5303.. today i pushed 232A at 112V wich is 25kW for a new top speed to 113kmh GPS measured... the cotroller is still at 75% current :twisted:

Doc


That is seriously twisted. Amazed that the motor can withstand such abuse, even for a short time.
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Re: Group buy Crystalyte 5404

Postby wojtek » Wed Aug 10, 2011 1:24 am

Great work America!! :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

Europe, stop sucking your scary fingers and give me some orders !!!
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Re: Group buy Crystalyte 5404

Postby wojtek » Wed Aug 10, 2011 4:58 am

update: 5403 and 5404 avaiable
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Re: Group buy Crystalyte 5404

Postby fractal » Wed Aug 10, 2011 5:40 am

wojtek wrote:update: 5403 and 5404 avaiable

What you be the specs on each motor if I would be running 24s 3p?
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Re: Group buy Crystalyte 5404 / 5403

Postby wojtek » Wed Aug 10, 2011 6:34 am

update: Kenny is willing to send the motors to individual addresses if we get a good number of orders. Lets aim for 30!
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Re: Group buy Crystalyte 5404 / 5403

Postby Cheeseboy » Wed Aug 10, 2011 6:57 am

There's no chance of one somehow getting to Aus is there?

Thought I might as well ask :)

If not I guess I'll just hide until the next Aus group buy thread shows up :|
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Re: Group buy Crystalyte 5404 / 5403

Postby Philistine » Wed Aug 10, 2011 7:02 am

Hey Cheeseboy, if it made it doable I might consider going in with you as well, and we could get them both shipped to you in Sydney, and I would get mine from you. Just throwing it out there in case that made it more viable.

update: Kenny is willing to send the motors to individual addresses if we get a good number of orders. Lets aim for 30!


Would that include us freaks in the Antipodes? Or only for US/Euro addresses?
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Re: Group buy Crystalyte 5404 / 5403

Postby Andje » Wed Aug 10, 2011 7:05 am

if there is a good number of canadian orders (or AUS/NZ orders for that mater) could we look at splitting the final shipment into at least two different countries? For us shipping to the US and then up here is brutal, whereas it's infinetly cheaper and faster to not go through customs twice.
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Re: Group buy Crystalyte 5404 / 5403

Postby Cheeseboy » Wed Aug 10, 2011 7:14 am

Hey Cheeseboy, if it made it doable I might consider going in with you as well, and we could get them both shipped to you in Sydney, and I would get mine from you. Just throwing it out there in case that made it more viable.


I'd be very happy to do that. Odds are low for Kenny agreeing to send just two of them our way, but it's worth a shot for one of these puppies!
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Re: Group buy Crystalyte 5404 / 5403

Postby wojtek » Wed Aug 10, 2011 7:50 am

i don't see any problem with sending to australia. as said, it is possible to send the motor to your door directly from crystalyte factory.

all i need for now is how many people are ready to commit to buy and pay in advance.

all you need to know i guess, is the shipping cost. :?:

I gave an example of USA address to Kenny to calculate the shipping costs.
Another option is sea shipping if we get good number of motors. One of the members here offered his help to get the motors by sea.
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Re: Group buy Crystalyte 5404 / 5403

Postby wojtek » Wed Aug 10, 2011 9:29 am

I asked Kenny about possibility of getting a single speed 5404. to make the axle shorter to fit more standard 135mm bikes.
He said it would be possible but MOQ would be 50 pieces.

i was thinking the shorter axle lenght would encourage more people to get those motors...
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Re: Group buy Crystalyte 5404 / 5403

Postby andreym » Wed Aug 10, 2011 11:27 am

Count me in for 2pcs. 1pcs 5404 and one 5403 please :)
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Re: Group buy Crystalyte 5404 / 5403

Postby Farfle » Wed Aug 10, 2011 11:29 am

One 5403 please, Not sure when payment is due, hopefully not sooner than end of the week.
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