(UPDATE!) - GROUP BUY WAS CANCELLED!!

[migueralliart]

This one you will enjoy ... sangesf BANNED from motoredbikes

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[neptronix]

Could this be him lmao

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=w ... Xcv_0k32Hg

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LOL.. looks just like the pic that flathill found.
He also posted the same rant about the police that he did here.

That is him.... yep!
And if he did send that letter to the police.. then the local police know who he is..

( whistles innocently )

[curious]

I know I'm a no nothing ahole, but I don't think I'd ever a group buy to save a few bucks. This is not the first group buy to go south on this forum and I haven't been lurking here that long.

See, this is why I use LiPos. A123s will burn you.
Nep called it. The ES dalai lama of consumer affairs.

I would politely suggest to anyone posting in this thread, ask yourself before pressing the submit button: "Is my post in any way helpful to the participants of this group buy ?" If the answer is yes then go ahead and click the button.

I would even more politely suggest that posts "I/he/she told you so..." are neither helpful nor enjoyable to those involved

[JohnC]

See, this is why I use LiPos. A123s will burn you.

Nep called it. The ES dalai lama of consumer affairs.

[boppinbob]

I would politely suggest to anyone posting in this thread, ask yourself before pressing the submit button: "Is my post in any way helpful to the participants of this group buy ?" If the answer is yes then go ahead and click the button.

It probably doesn't help with this group buy...but it might with the next group buy.

[ohzee]

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Good call on http://motorbicycling.com/member.php?u=5998

He was online at 5:49pm EST today less then 3 hrs ago.. I sent him a PM over there asking for a response.

[curious]

There is a person with the matching name on the facebook and myspace social sites (photos are similar). Is that him or someone else ?

[Joseph C.]

There is a person with the matching name on the facebook and myspace social sites (photos are similar). Is that him or someone else ?

Seems to be. http://www.myspace.com/francis_xavior/p ... 2295587%7D

[pgt400]

Self employed...25-50K. 20k so far this year?


http://www.datehookup.com/User-104916460.htm

[ohzee]

What's funny is that with that dating site his pic was there earlier today.. so he had that removed.. wtf
I just checked on my laptop I still have the pic cached so saved a copy.

Yea I checked all that out earlier today.. that's a good point about the sheriff's knowing who he is based on that report
should be easy to contact them and file some type of complaint if we don't get our funds back.

[curious]

Self employed...25-50K. 20k so far this year?
http://www.datehookup.com/User-104916460.htm

Same nickname. Most likely that's him. I really do not understand why the guy with so much net presence would fake a group buy under the same nick. Something does not add up...

[neptronix]

That's him guys. No doubts.

http://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=37005&hilit=letter

^-- there's the ES post about him writing a letter to his local police folk.

[flathill]

Good catch on him logging onto another site! This means he is ignoring us! There is a possibility sangesf is not the guy in the pictures, but judging from how outraged he got when I posted a picture of him from the dating site in the other thread (he demand I be banned), maybe it really is him in the picture....or we are dealing with a very astute criminal who knows the game. Very strange.

[migueralliart]

There is a person with the matching name on the facebook and myspace social sites (photos are similar). Is that him or someone else ?

Seems to be. http://www.myspace.com/francis_xavior/p ... 2295587%7D

Still rocking myspace that's a FAIL right there...

[neptronix]

See, this is why I use LiPos. A123s will burn you.

Nep called it. The ES dalai lama of consumer affairs.

Lol, gotta give flathill credit too.. but thanks

[migueralliart]

According to this profile

http://www.motoredbikes.com/member.php?u=6628

He is 43... they even have his date of birth listed on his profile (top right corner)

[pgt400]

seems another call to his sister is in order.....

http://www.motoredbikes.com/showthread.php?t=28681

[John in CR]

Ok I was wrong. I apologize to the extent my posts influenced anyone else. Hopefully paypal makes everyone whole. Let's do an accounting once the claims are finished, so I can make a decision on how to proceed.

John

[dnmun]

not a scam, this is felony fraud.

someone needs to contact the police to get him incarcerated before he can spend all the cash. if there is someone in florida, close by, then they need to directly contact the local police and get a detective assigned to this case and see if the local DA will start an investigation.

the behavior over on motored bikes is a confirmation. waiting for this to turn out well is time wasted.

[curious]

If it is indeed him, I think we have enough information to start the legal action if he did manage to cash the PayPal account.

[curious]

Looks like he actually does have an ebike (if this is him):
http://www.youtube.com/user/sangesf
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3QXPg2H ... bRWzdbfKs=
http://s980.photobucket.com/albums/ae28 ... ?start=all
Not a typical fraud case, I really do not get it. Usually people who can build something fairly complex have better ways to make 20k.

[ohzee]

Yea he shared most of those here on the forums in the past.. that's the weird thing about this
we have so much information on him.. unless he's planning on leaving the US or he's just waiting on paypal
to do what he said they where (and is really really lax about keeping us updated) It makes NO sense
at all.

I hope there's something else , but with each minute and no response it seems less likely.

[curious]

Anyone has an account on bikeforums.net to check his profile ? His last post there was on 03/20/2012.
http://www.bikeforums.net/search.php?searchid=5337176

[999zip999]

Hay Otherdoc I thought you were going to wait to Tuesday ? I Started monday.

[pgt400]

http://www.whitepages.com/name/Francis- ... FL/73066m4

Looks like his address prior to moving to WestPalm....At least he's easy to track down. Sounds like he's a landscaper.