First Timer Quadcopter Build

mateusleo

mateusleo

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Thing is i've never built anything so complex at all, but i want to do this. I have'nt bought anything yet, but the to-buy list was made. Got everything from aliexpress simply because hobbyking shipping fee to brazil usually costs more than the item itself. Here is the list:

Battery:http://www.aliexpress.com/item/11-1...ery-For-Helicopter-Model-Free/1095885778.html

Flight Controller(KK2.15):http://www.aliexpress.com/item/KK2-...-Quadcopter-KK2-6050MPU-644PA/1795564006.html

Flight controller programming firmware(not sure if i'll need, but its cheap): http://www.aliexpress.com/item/-/2007114529.html

6 Channel transmitter + receiver: http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free...nnel-Transmitter-and-Receiver/1881910118.html

Motors + escs + props: http://www.aliexpress.com/item/-/1934290291.html

6s balance charger (imax b6):http://www.aliexpress.com/item/on-s...harger-AC-POWER-12v-5A-Adapter/345432712.html

Frame: http://www.aliexpress.com/item/DJI-...Wheel-KIT-DJI-For-KK-MK-MWC-4/1826417761.html


Still gotta get a landing gear, but i don't need much advice on that, should be simple.
I'm still a noob, so advice is needed. If you notice that something is missing or wrong, please tell me. And, of course, any advices are welcome, mainly if you think that there might be a similar price piece avaiable that is better than the ones i choose. Thanks
 
Since I did the same thing and made a few mistakes along the way - my advice would be something like this:
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/F450...K2-1-5-A2212-980kv-30A-Simonk/2051764516.html
F450-Multi-Copter-Quadcopter-Rack-Kit-Frame-black-red-KK2-1-5-Sunnysky-X2212-30A-Simonk.jpg_120x120.jpg


Grab a four channel controller with receiver and battery/charger. Then buy two or three extra prop sets while you are at it. Some of the other listings for a 450 quad are fully complete (ready to fly - RTF) minus the charger. I bought a x525 kit from Goodluckbuy - which was okay, but had some real issues with the included control board (older black board). It came with everything, but rx/tx and battery/charger. Once I replaced the board with the kk2.1 it flew well. I had broken most everything before I got the kk 2.1 board though.

From your list the only thing missing I see is you will need to get the female servo wires to attach your rx to the flight control board. Also a battery strap.

I also recommend getting a cheap quad like the Hubsan x4 to get your flight skills going. They are like $40 or so shipped or $50 or so with a decent 2mp camera. I still like to fly that in the house or take on trips to film stuff. You can't do that easily with a 450 size quad. These little quads take some serious abuse and will help you get your feet wet. I've had one fall 100ft from the sky and nothing broke. Amazing. I tipped over my 450 in the garage and broke a prop.

Plus I'd ask for advice and then purchase. I make that mistake too though.

Edit Oops... looks like you are smarter than I am and hadn't purchased anything yet. Go with a kit version it will save you money and it will include all the little things like the battery strap and wiring. The 450 size frame is good, I'd stay away from the x525 - it breaks easily.
 
dirkdiggler said:
Since I did the same thing and made a few mistakes along the way - my advice would be something like this:
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/F450...K2-1-5-A2212-980kv-30A-Simonk/2051764516.html
F450-Multi-Copter-Quadcopter-Rack-Kit-Frame-black-red-KK2-1-5-Sunnysky-X2212-30A-Simonk.jpg_120x120.jpg


Grab a four channel controller with receiver and battery/charger. Then buy two or three extra prop sets while you are at it. Some of the other listings for a 450 quad are fully complete (ready to fly - RTF) minus the charger. I bought a x525 kit from Goodluckbuy - which was okay, but had some real issues with the included control board (older black board). It came with everything, but rx/tx and battery/charger. Once I replaced the board with the kk2.1 it flew well. I had broken most everything before I got the kk 2.1 board though.

From your list the only thing missing I see is you will need to get the female servo wires to attach your rx to the flight control board. Also a battery strap.

I also recommend getting a cheap quad like the Hubsan x4 to get your flight skills going. They are like $40 or so shipped or $50 or so with a decent 2mp camera. I still like to fly that in the house or take on trips to film stuff. You can't do that easily with a 450 size quad. These little quads take some serious abuse and will help you get your feet wet. I've had one fall 100ft from the sky and nothing broke. Amazing. I tipped over my 450 in the garage and broke a prop.

Plus I'd ask for advice and then purchase. I make that mistake too though.

Edit Oops... looks like you are smarter than I am and hadn't purchased anything yet. Go with a kit version it will save you money and it will include all the little things like the battery strap and wiring. The 450 size frame is good, I'd stay away from the x525 - it breaks easily.
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Thanks, will look for a more complete kit then, and maybe cheap one too
 
So after some thinkng, i came to the discussion about 2 flight controllers: kk2.1.5 or Crius ALL IN ONE PRO Flight Controller AIOP V2.0+AIOPIO Board +NEO-6 V3.0 GPS (http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Criu...-V2-0-AIOPIO-Board-NEO-6-V3-0/1588104686.html). The main advantage is the return to home, but theres also a risk: return to home isn't working very well and then you have the "fly away" and u can say bye bye to your quad. What should i buy ?


Update: Unless someone gives me a good reason, i'm buying the Crius AIO due to gps.
 
Updated purchase list (haven't bought anything yet):

Battery strap: http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Qual...trap-Belt-Tape-Cable-Tie-270mm/905607972.html

Servo wires: http://www.aliexpress.com/item/5X-R...-Wire-150mm-Lead-JR-5221-01-05/648386442.html

Crius ALL IN ONE PRO Flight Controller AIOP V2.0+AIOPIO Board +NEO-6 V3.0 GPS: http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Criu...-V2-0-AIOPIO-Board-NEO-6-V3-0/1588104686.html

3000mah 3s 35c lipo (only going to buy one this month due to budget, please advice me abuot the quality of this brand): http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free...3S-35C-RC-LiPo-Li-Poly-Battery/585358370.html

Propeller Balancer: http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free...elicopter-Quadcopter-FPV-Prop/1864348557.html

6ch transmitter + receiver: http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free...nnel-Transmitter-and-Receiver/1881910118.html

Motors + escs + props: http://www.aliexpress.com/item/-/1934290291.html

Imax B6 balance charger + power supply: http://www.aliexpress.com/item/on-s...harger-AC-POWER-12v-5A-Adapter/345432712.html

Frame: http://www.aliexpress.com/item/DJI-...Wheel-KIT-DJI-For-KK-MK-MWC-4/1826417761.html

Any advices, something wrong here? Thanks
 
all looks good..

Do the ESC's have any custom firmware or is it the stock firmware?
( you really want simonk or similar otherwise your gonna have a twitcher )
Allows your esc to get updates at a much faster rate making your multirotor have smooth flight...

You might want to get something like this
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__27195__Atmel_Atmega_Socket_Firmware_Flashing_Tool.html


They are really worth having unless your esc comes programmed with simonk or similar firmware
 
Thanks for the info about the escs and servos. Also, i changed the remote controller to turnigy 9x because the price difference is only 20 bucks(actually it's the shipping) and its a much stronger controller. I'll look into the escs asap.
 
yeah the 9x is good man,I have it and like it...
You can easily upgrade it later on down the track...
like you can increase the power of the 2.4ghz or change frequencies to 433mhz and more power..

but stock standard it does a good job, No need to worry about diversity with a multirotor either..
 
nechaus said:
all looks good..

Do the ESC's have any custom firmware or is it the stock firmware?
( you really want simonk or similar otherwise your gonna have a twitcher )
Allows your esc to get updates at a much faster rate making your multirotor have smooth flight...

You might want to get something like this
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__27195__Atmel_Atmega_Socket_Firmware_Flashing_Tool.html


They are really worth having unless your esc comes programmed with simonk or similar firmware
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How am i supposed to know if the escs i'm buying are flasheable? I'm a noob, remamber this hahaha. Also, i'm not very interested in removing the stock heatshrink...
 
common escs have the atmega processors, If you search on the internet about simonk, you can get a list of esc that have been flashed before..
your just changing the firmware on the esc.. it's all pre programmed no low voltage cutoff, no need to set timing or any of that crap.

If you go to rctimer.com you can get some good 2-4s 30 amp pre flashed esc's for about $10 each.
This is probably the better way to go first time building a quad, Later on get the flash tool when you want to worry about the esc's more, there is a couple of good multirotor software for the esc's out there. simonk is good for the majority of multirotors.
when you start building like endurance or more specialized craft, you will need to pay more attention to it tho
 
okay what about building this thing ?
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__66622__HobbyKing_Thorax_Mini_FPV_Hex_Multi_Rotor_Frame_Kit.html


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nechaus said:
okay what about building this thing ?
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__66622__HobbyKing_Thorax_Mini_FPV_Hex_Multi_Rotor_Frame_Kit.html


[youtube]Bfqnrvr0FnY[/youtube]
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Nope, i'm gonna build a quadcopter with a f450 frame
 
nechaus said:
http://rctimer.com/product-1149.html


http://rctimer.com/product-675.html
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You seem to dislike aliexpress. I don't buyt there because i like, i'd prefer to buy everything at the same place. Thing is shipping to brazil from those stores that have everything are more expensive than the stuff itself. So all i can do it buy from aliexpress, unless i'm about to pay U$D 300~ in material itself and maybe another 150~in shipping.
 
oh i see, sorry man..

Pita, Well aliexpress is the next best bet.
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Side-Bended-Pin-APM2-6-ArduPilot-Mega-2-6-Kit-External-Compass-APM-Flight-Controller-Board/1864979145.html
just had a quick look, damm fine price on that unit
 
nechaus said:
oh i see, sorry man..

Pita, Well aliexpress is the next best bet.
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Side-Bended-Pin-APM2-6-ArduPilot-Mega-2-6-Kit-External-Compass-APM-Flight-Controller-Board/1864979145.html
just had a quick look, damm fine price on that unit
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i'm going to use this flight controller: http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Criu...-V2-0-AIOPIO-Board-NEO-6-V3-0/1588104686.html . Its the best cost/benefit ratio from my point of view...I've posted the current purchase list above, except that i changed to controller for turnigy 9x
 
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