Xtracycled, Amped UniVega - build thread

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Xtracycled, Amped UniVega - build thread

Postby Viking » Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:48 pm

So here goes - I'm taking the plunge and going for my first very own e-bike build! Can't wait to get started!

I have been reading tons of material both here on the sphere and elsewhere. I'm insanly interested in anything electric driven (with batteries that is) and own a Danish (!) produced vintage electric car, the CityEl/CityCom - but that is a different story. I do have some semi-good electronic/mechanical skills and I have built one other e-bike before, for a family member. It was a standard 700C bike with an ampedbike kit and a 36V 15AH ping battery. Is does app. 40 kph on flat ground and has 50+ km of range; according to the family member. I guess that includes some pedal assist.

Now back to my own build. I plan to upgrade this 10+ years old MTB:

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Donor bike
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I would like to end up with a Sports Utility Bike/commuter with room for 4-5 bags of groceries and for a very short part of the commute (1,5 km) also my two kids (to/from daycare). I need to be able to commute 35-40 km to work, re-charge at work in 6-8 hours, and drive another 35-40 km to get back home. It will not be an everyday commuter, maybe something like every second or third day on average. I am aiming for 40-50 kph on flat ground. Do have a couple of hills here and there - I don't mind having to pedal assist on those or going really slow as the majority of the distance is pretty flat.

My plan is to go with this set-up:
- Xtracycle the donerbike - to get the cargo capacity for groceries and kids.
- 16s/48V LifePo4 battery. Considering either Ping 20AH - or build my own Headway 12-15AH battery. A lot of pros/cons for both to consider.
- Install discbrakes on the Xtracycle frame. Upgrade front fork to one with suspension + disc brakes. No way I'm running with that weight and speed on V-levers!
- Use the rearwheel kit from Ampedbikes. Have been pretty impressed with the quality from that other build... Still un-decided between thumb or twist throttle...
- Get two of those nice torque arms from Ampedbikes also. Used them before, they are pretty heavy duty and very adjustable I think.
- Hoping that the controller from Amped will keep cool enough feeding it 48V. Have been reading about several folks doing it. If it fries (I know I'll loose my warranty) I will upgrade to something more powerfull (yet sensible) any recommendations if I have to go down that road?
- Get a CA
- And build my own battery box that is ideal for away-from-bike charging (at work).

II'll order the Xtracycle Freeloader and the hub motor kit within the next few days, so if you think I'm about to build a total disaster please shout at me! It will only make me happy to get your input or thoughts! I think I kind of have all the knowlegde I need - "think" being the key-word here :D

Should also mention that this will not be a hyper-quick build as time seems to be my biggest constraint theese days. But I promise I will keep this thread updated when ever progress is happening - now it is my turn to give something back to this awesome forum!

Would like to thank you all for the great threads I have been reading here!

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Re: Xtracycled, Amped UniVega - build thread

Postby HAROX » Wed Jun 27, 2012 3:48 pm

Viking, as I didn't see you mention it, I will mention purchasing the Xtracycle center stand.
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Re: Xtracycled, Amped UniVega - build thread

Postby Viking » Thu Jun 28, 2012 2:19 pm

Hi Harox

Thank you for your input - will definately have to consider it. Would probably have realized it the (really) hard way down the road, so to speak! :wink:

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Re: Xtracycled, Amped UniVega - build thread

Postby Viking » Wed Aug 08, 2012 6:11 pm

So, the build begins! A couple of weeks ago theese boxes arrived:
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Inside I found theese components:
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Besides the Freeradical frame I also ordered four Superhooks for my own deck that I'm going to do later in the process, a full Xtracycle length chain and two heavy duty racks.

And this nicely matte black motor (helps with the stealth look) from Ampedbikes was in the other box along with controller, misc. parts and two torque arms. This rear wheel motors cassette/freewheel has six gearwheels on it. I noticed a nice upgrade from the last bike I build; they have added Anderson connectors to the phase and power wires on the controller/motor (so much better than the cheap stuff that was on the older version) and also added four stainless steel zip-ties in the box for the torque arms. Nice.
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I stripped the wheels, rear brake, rear derailer and some other stuff of my Univega frame and attached the Freeradical frame. Easy and pretty straight forward.
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I also removed the crankset, as I discovered the teeth on the chainrign being pretty worn down:
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I went straight in and ordered a new crankset, an Avid BB7 discbrake, some bags, new tyres and other misc. stuff I discovered I needed going through the first steps of my build. A couple of days later it all arrived in perfect condition.
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Going with puncture resistant Schwalbe Marathon Plus Tour. Also effecient and capable of carrying 135 kg pr. tyre.
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Ordered two of theese waterproof Ortlieb bags. Impressive quality!
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I decided to go from 44/34/24 to 48/38/28 chainrings as I will be doing much more roaddriving than offroading on this bike in the future! Crossing my fingers that my front derailer will comply with theese bigger chainrings...
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And then the Avid BB7 disc brake. Unfortunately I was only able to get the caliber together with a 200 mm disc. The Xtracycle is build for a 203 mm disc (pre-2012 Avid size) and now I'm wondering of those three millimeters really are that important? I can get a 203 mm disc from my seller, but I would love to save the money though. Does anybody know if I can use the 200 mm disc without risking serious injury - or should I really go get the 203 mm?
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I am contemplating on how to avoid bying the Watchacollars from Xtracycle (four pieces at 35$ a piece is really expensive :shock: ). But I need to secure my racks to the frame somehow to weatherproof them and to make sure my load (the kids) stay attached to the bike... I would probably go with the idea of using and old bicycle hose sleeved over the connection points to weatherproof it and then add some double seatpost clamps on top of that to hold the racks in place. Have found an aluminium clamp that costs 7$ a piece - that would save me more than 100$!! (if it works out).

Next step is to spray anti-corrosion stuff inside the Freeradical frame. It is definately not treated for scandinavian winters! Left untreated I think the rain, snow and salt will pretty quickly make it rust from the inside-out. Also need to go get some fenders for the rearwheel.

Still need to source my battery. Will wait with that until I have tested the setup with a borrowed 36V/20AH Ping V2.5 battery pack. Maybe it'll be fast enough - if not I will go for the 48V solution.

Well, time to hit the workshop for some more tinkering!

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Re: Xtracycled, Amped UniVega - build thread

Postby Cargo_Tom » Thu Aug 09, 2012 6:45 pm

Jamen Goddaw :D

mmm Extracycle. Those are a rare sight in DK. I will be following your build with interest.
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Re: Xtracycled, Amped UniVega - build thread

Postby motomech » Thu Aug 09, 2012 9:58 pm

"I decided to go from 44/34/24 to 48/38/28 chainrings as I will be doing much more roaddriving than offroading on this bike in the future! Crossing my fingers that my front derailer will comply with theese bigger chainrings..."

Then you will want to lose the kit supplied 6-speed free wheel and get a DNP 7-speed that will have the 11T small cog.
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