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my e-bikes

Postby Nader » Wed Jul 14, 2010 1:57 pm

hi folks!

i would like to present you all my e-bikes, wish your enjoyment :wink:

see more pictures http://www.nalizadeh.com/ebike/pics/bikes.html.

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Re: my e-bikes

Postby vodka » Wed Jul 14, 2010 2:51 pm

can't see any batteries, can you post some specs?
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Old bike: Crystalyte 5304 rear 26" / Cycleanalyst / 48 Volt 30Ah Ping Battery 1.5Kw/h/ Crystalyte 4840 Controller / over 1000miles
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Re: my e-bikes

Postby johnrobholmes » Wed Jul 14, 2010 2:55 pm

He hides them in the frame bags, seat bags, and water bottles I bet.
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Re: my e-bikes

Postby vodka » Wed Jul 14, 2010 3:15 pm

johnrobholmes wrote:He hides them in the frame bags, seat bags, and water bottles I bet.
:mrgreen: :mrgreen:
-> Current bike build thread:
Crystalyte 5303 rear 26" / Cycleanalyst 2.2 / 48 Volt 30Ah Ping Battery 1.5Kw/h/ Crystalyte 4850 Controller 18 Fets / over ~6000 km / Gear ratio of 1 : 4.82 view images

Old bike: Crystalyte 5304 rear 26" / Cycleanalyst / 48 Volt 30Ah Ping Battery 1.5Kw/h/ Crystalyte 4840 Controller / over 1000miles
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Re: my e-bikes

Postby ambroseliao » Wed Jul 14, 2010 4:10 pm

I can see the water bottle battery and the front or rear geared hub motors. All are very nice and stealthy.

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Re: my e-bikes

Postby beast775 » Wed Jul 14, 2010 8:24 pm

wow ,i just kept going and going.thats awesome.different ride for different moods.they all look very bicycle like, nice and stealthy.good work. :D
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Re: my e-bikes

Postby Nader » Thu Jul 15, 2010 1:21 am

hi people!

..i am happy that my e-bikes pleases you. :D

I always hide batteries (thay are mostly Konion, Lithium or LiPO cells) in water bottles or in the frame bag. Unfortunately fit only to 6Ah into a water bottle however for me is sufficient (live in Hamburg and there ist flat without upward, hills and mountains :wink: ).

For me it is very important, that an electrical bike behaves like a normal bicycle, therefore i uses always small and light hubmotors with freewheel like Cute, Tongxin oder Bafang and smal batteries. If i need more range, then I take 2 or more further bottles in the back bag.

and the controller mostly takes place in the seat bag.

..the chaindrived bike with Tongxin motor makes mostly fun.

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wish a beautiful day

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Re: my e-bikes

Postby Pablo_1985 » Thu Jul 15, 2010 1:29 am

real pretty, you have some serious classic bikes! this marin it´s incredible!
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Re: my e-bikes

Postby DervAtl » Mon Jul 26, 2010 10:12 pm

Great bikes --- really clean! I really like the water bottle battery setup. Can you give us some details on these?
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Re: my e-bikes

Postby dogman » Tue Jul 27, 2010 7:09 am

Very nice with the bottle batteries. Just too short range for us in the US for the most part. But ideal if you do pedal those gearmotors some without the power. I'm just too old and fat for much of that nowdays. 105F summer days make pedaling hard too.

Very very very nice bikes. :mrgreen:
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Re: my e-bikes

Postby kentlim26 » Tue Jul 27, 2010 7:20 am

very Wonderful bikes lOl. i like the no.2 photos the suspension has infront and the real Too. i saw that once a long time ago.
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Re: my e-bikes

Postby Nader » Wed Jul 28, 2010 1:49 am

because of many questions over bottle batteries, here you can see how I built the batteries:

http://www.nalizadeh.com/ebike/pics/pics/koga/koga.html

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Re: my e-bikes

Postby DervAtl » Wed Jul 28, 2010 11:33 am

Thanks Nader! We appreciate the look "under the hood". What voltage are you running?
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Re: my e-bikes

Postby jalexl » Wed Jul 28, 2010 11:40 am

Beautiful builds. Love the clean lines. Can you talk about how you build up those water bottle batteries, and what type of performance you get out of them?

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Re: my e-bikes

Postby grindz145 » Wed Jul 28, 2010 2:00 pm

What are some of the specs!? What kind of performance do you get? I love the designs! perfectly clean!
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Re: my e-bikes

Postby vanilla ice » Wed Jul 28, 2010 2:46 pm

Great job.
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Re: my e-bikes

Postby Nader » Thu Jul 29, 2010 9:01 am

grindz145 wrote:What are some of the specs!? What kind of performance do you get? I love the designs! perfectly clean!


there are two kinds of bottle batteries. 36V/2,6Ah with 1L water bottle and 36V or 48V 5.6 ah into a 1,5L bottle.
The batteries are created out konions/A123 or lithium cells, I have still which out lipos.

Clearly are a 2,6 or 5,6Ah batterie too little, however with a light and sporty bicycle can educate one enormously much range. :wink:

All my Bikes weigh under 20 kg, even dual drive with two engines (with 36V 5,6Ah batterie: with 2 Bafangs 22 kg and with 2 Cuts 18,8 kg).

The range is dependent of driving style. I reach for example with 2,6Ah 20 km.
More own contribution produces naturally more range. :wink:


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you can see here more pictures about this project.

http://www.nalizadeh.com/ebike/pics/pics/superbow/superbow.html


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Re: my e-bikes

Postby GTR2EBIKE » Thu Jul 29, 2010 9:56 am

Nader Is that controller for that bike in the bike bag? I wanted to build a clean e-bike by running wiring through the frame but it blows me away how clean yours are.
I am trying to get a 48v 5.6ah pack to make a pack similar to yours. I emailed phillip and am waiting for a response.
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Re: my e-bikes

Postby grindz145 » Thu Jul 29, 2010 10:49 am

Gorgeous! I imagine they make a superior Hybrid configuration. Still very ridable!
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Re: my e-bikes

Postby Nader » Thu Jul 29, 2010 1:13 pm

GTR2EBIKE wrote:Nader Is that controller for that bike in the bike bag? I wanted to build a clean e-bike by running wiring through the frame but it blows me away how clean yours are.


yes the controller is in the seat bag.

not only the solution with bottle batterie is beautiful and good, there are also other and different practical solutions: :wink:

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Re: my e-bikes

Postby EVTodd » Thu Jul 29, 2010 3:01 pm

I really like your bikes! Very stealthy, which is usually my main goal.

I'm currently putting a couple kits together using aluminum water bottles as battery holders myself. I've been having a bit of a dilemma about how to hold the two pieces of the bottle together after I cut them. I noticed yours look to have a piece of aluminum flashing around the inside. Do you also put something around the outside seam when you put the two pieces together?

I keep hoping to find a suitable rubber or plastic ring but it would be next to impossible to find the exact size. Maybe some kind of rubber strap with a quick release buckle.
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Re: my e-bikes

Postby petedegan » Thu Aug 12, 2010 9:02 am

nader

wow- nice job ! how do you compare the chain drives to direct drive ? is the performance similar ? where did you get the freewheel cranks ? thanks
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Re: my e-bikes

Postby Nader » Thu Aug 19, 2010 8:19 am

petedegan wrote:nader

wow- nice job ! how do you compare the chain drives to direct drive ? is the performance similar ? where did you get the freewheel cranks ? thanks


the chain drives has better performance, specially on the hills. But it is suitable for more sporty cyclist, because you must many more step
in order to reach the cadence, which needs the engine.

I did get the freewheel cranks from http://www.sickbikeparts.com

so long..

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Re: my e-bikes

Postby Nader » Sun Sep 19, 2010 4:55 am

this is my last built dh/fr e-Bike (Bellacoola Slope with 750W Puma). 5Ah konion as water bottle battery and 10Ah Lipo in the back bag.

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Re: my e-bikes

Postby AirMarky » Fri Sep 24, 2010 9:41 am

Hello Nader, very cool Bikes :mrgreen:
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