Hey guys thanks again for the replies
Okay I had better clear something up real quick lol
I am 47, I 'preciate that is young to some
I have a degree in Comp Sci and Psychology from 25 years back,
The job I was "redundified" from was as a senior technical writer for a pretty large software company here in Aus (IRESS Market Technology), total remuneration of around 80k per annum. Was there for six years, the longest I have been in any particular job.
Had a lot of jobs in my lifetime, from labourer to garbage man, jeweller, Technician, tape operator (yeah I was in IT BEFORE the interwebs, and when mainframes with tape drives still existed
), network operator, technical programmer, short order cook, kitchen manager, restaraunt manager, and several writing jobs. Had quite a few non-payed jobs as well, including a couple of years as a moderator for Australias highest ranked stock market forum... if ya think things sometimes get a little heated here ya should see what it is like when the stock market crashes on a forum with close to 100,000 members... woooooooh Nelly, death threats, threats of litigation, tantrums (mentioned so you know I dont get upset easily and am thick-skinned in general forum communications, and SHOULD be able to diffuse or cool down any accidental ire I may cause here through n00bishness)
Work wise, I could literally get a "survival" job tomorrow... was offered a job as a Pizza chef yesterday...
I have no dependents (unless you count my cat and stable of e-bikes
Not trying to be a smart-arse here and apologise for giving the impression of being a young sprout.
Totally agree re learning more about electricity and magnetism, I have SOME electronics background, though mainly digital, and gotta confess I have started relearning circuits etcetera. I used to design and build circuits, but maybe 20 yrs ago so somewhat "scratchy" but what little knowledge I have has been tres useful in the last few months and last week in understanding the info in e/s.
What I have learnt about controllers in the last week has, if nothing else, made me realise how much more I can learn...
Likewise its my intention to go to trade school for a bit to relearn welding, or at least learn it properly, back when I was a farmboy in a pretty remote place in AUS where we tended to repair all our own stuff, the only welding I did was oxy acetylene and arc, n that was a few decades ago
Liability is something I dont yet know enough about... and I appreciate dnmun mentioning it... I do have a couple of contacts with e-bike sellers, one in the CBD and one in the outer suburbs of melbourne. Both are interested in what I am dreaming about (or at least they have been happy to talk with me). I will definately see what THEY do about liability.
the whole issue of legality, I do understand is huge.
I have done some investigation (talking to the e-bike sellers) and the viewpoint is that they can sell anything to a punter, so long as they mention (in the case of above legal limit power) that the vehicle is above legal limit power and is there fore restricted as to where they can ride. The two sellers I know are very much of the beleif that it is the riders onus here, IE they have no fear that they can be fined for selling a vehicle with over the power limit, it is up to the punter to use the vehicle legally. The same I guesss for the more common motorbike sellers, if they sell a dirt bike unregisterable to a punter, then they are not liable if the punter decides to do monos up and down the major highways on it.
We actually had a recent crackdown on the scooter style, "can pedal in emergency" e-vehicles here in victoria, where they are deemed "not a bicycle" cos the pedalling is not the main means of propulsion. What did that crackdown involve? Fines for people caught riding them (which personally I think sucks, partic as the majority of users were older or disabled and were mostly using these things as mobility devices)
Riding an unregistered vehicle
riding an illegal vehicle on cycle ways and shared footpaths
The people who SOLD these e-scooters? Not even touched, and no laws for the fined punters to be able to pursue the sellers.
Legality of "my" kits
My initial push is to try and get this kit in a form that IS legal assisted bicycle power wise (although modifiable "strictly for offroad use" to a power output of up to 1000 watts, with all the caveats that entails)
250w at 24v.. hopefully will be riding a test example today.
My current perception of the market in Aus is that the commercial e-bikes being sold are either "granny " bikes, that only really cater to a very small market, or High end B2B style bikes that cost 2 or 3k. I reckon in terms of my actual builds, based on reasonable bicycles with kits applied, that they actually could fill a niche that is pretty underpopulated at the moment, primarily for the 30km or less commuter.
Again something I need to get cemented. I can say at this stage that the supplier whom I got my stock of 30 kits from and with whom I am in very frequent contact (I act as his support guy for the kits HE sells) has had 2 "component" failures of tech in his kits with around 100 odd sold. One was a controller, that I would not be surprised was blown by a customer, and the other was a broken magnet in a 1000w kit wheel.
Of the 5 kits that i have unboxed and built e-bikes with, the only probs I have had were due to my lack of experience and doing dumb things without the background knowledge. The end result... one blown up controller, and one wheel with scratches on the cover plate
I ahve damaged one battery pack by dropping an unshielded pouch based pack that managed to land on a bolt on the floor and impact one of the pouches. I deffo need to provide punter protection for the batteries for these kits, and is one of the areas I am working on.
It is my intention to keep a number of the kits unsold, so I can do "replacement" style warranty at this stage.
As far as regulation by authorities re mods to kits... as far as I know, there is no regulation. the Power upgrade mods will be sold as offroad only, and this is an unregulated area.
In terms of legal power... there is not even a certification program at this stage to verify the power output of those e-bikes on the market.
Obv. still a lot of "homework" I need to do... but my current perception of the e-bike scene in Australia is:
there is room for more "on the ground" support, repair and building of e-bikes here in Australia.
There appear to be two types of ebike sellers, those with infrastructure and some support for the complete bikes they sell (possibly with kits as well) and those who basically import and sell without actually ever handling what they sell. The latter I beleive will provide ME with customers
There are very few places where one can test an e-bike and make informed choices about power and bike style
Most LBS's have NO IDEA about what to do with an e-bike.
Most e-bike sellers have NO IDEA what to do with a bicycle.
The current legal kits (250w) available are either based on poor quality bikes, or so blody expensive they are toys for the those who ar over-endowed, money wise.
So... all that STILL makes me think I can make a go of this...