NEW Tidalforce S-750 eBike frames/parts for INDIVIDUAL SALE

[ambroseliao]

It seems that most of the used TF's are in California. I've only ever seen 3 come up for sale here. Two from a dealer clearing out new/old stock. One on Craigslist.org. Couldn't afford one when they were new, can't afford one now that they are used!

Building one from scratch is quite fun. I just picked up a TF front battery hub so will look into rebuilding that with some new cells and removing the circuitry to see I can resuscitate it for use with my current S-750 bike!

Ambrose

[oatnet]

Just a heads up for Canadian Buyers...

I have shipped a 6-7 orders to Canada without incident, but my most recent buyer reports that Customs opened the package, scratched and DENTED one of the frames, rejected my valuation (which was actual-cost, I don't mess around with customs) and charged him an extra $70 of duty for the pleasure.

I'm going to offer him a free replacement frame if he wants to risk more customs duty/shipping. AFAIK this is the first reported damage in the 50-60 of these I have shipped so far. I just wanted to warn Canadian buyers that there is nothing I can do to help with customs agents, but I will always work with you afterwards.

-JD

[El_Steak]

I'm the unlucky Canadian buyer.

Just to clarify for my fellow Canadian buyers, the extra 70$ I had to pay is the PST, GST and handling fee. We normally have to pay those taxes although I found that 80% of the time Canada Post doesn't bother collecting them.

The problem in my case is that they opened up the box and arbitrarily decided that the content was worth quite a lot more than the real value. So I had to pay the taxes on that inflated amount.

When they were done they just throwed back everything in the box and the frame got dented and scratched when the crank rubbed on it.

I've been ripped off before with ridiculous brokerage fees charged by UPS and Fedex, but it's the first time I ever get a problem with Canadian Duty.

Anyways, thanks to oatnet for offering the extra frame even though this is not is fault.

[oatnet]

El Steak figured out what caused the damage and sent pics. It was the cranks grinding against the downtube. As you can see from the picture below, the damage was to the downtube, and the leftmost mark has the dent.

I pack every box the same way, with the cranks wrapped in thick cardbooard and heavily taped, and firmly packed in the rear triangle of one of the frames. I also put loads of paper between the cardboard and the frame to prevent chafing. When I ship, the downtube is packed flat against the bottom of the box and simply can't move from that position on its own, there is no way for anything to get underneath it.

So it looks like the astute customs folks took the stuff out, jammed it back in with no regard to the contents, and decided to make El Steak pay extra for the pleasure. It really frustrates me to see good hardware damaged by incompetence, and frustrates me more to see my packing effort wasted by some bureaucrat chasing down $70 worth of revenue. I hope he can press a good case against Canadian customs for damage. However, while it is not pretty, it is still a viable solid frame.

El Steak said the replacement frame was unneccesary, but I still felt bad that he did not get it in the condition that he paid for, so I refunded him the cost of the 2nd frame and a little bit of shipping. I'll continue to ship to canada, but require that the parts be shipped in a second box. Domestic US shipping should continue to be fine.

-JD

PS - No, I will not be raising my prices to match the valuation assigned to them by Canadian Customs these frames are too pretty for their own good!

[rkosiorek]

you can file a dispute with Customs Canada over their valuation. need to show actual invoice, cancelled check, visa bill, etc. it can take months. then Customs Canada can take crap like that personally as well.

after i argued and won a case with Customs in 2004, the next shipment i got from China was a bunch of hub motors with a stub axle on one side only. large, heavy, metalic, pancake shaped object, pin projecting from one side.. hmmm.. LAND MINES maybe? I got a visit from the Royal Canadian Mounted Police (our FBI), Canadian Security Intelligence Service (CSIS-our combined CIA/Counter Terrorist cops) and a Customs/revenue agent (they don't need a search warrant for import/customs related stuff). after the initial introductions the first question was from the CSIS guy - "Is this Shipment from China? The communist one?" to which i replied "is there any other kind? I guess that means you flunked high school geography. Huh! Some spy you make!" the Mountie was laugning, the CSIS guy was frothing and i was in custody for being UnCooperative.

now i am not sure if one incident had anything to do with the other. but the timing was suspicious. i was released after a couple of hours after they determined that i was not a terrorist threat. it did not help their case much that the motors were ordered for the local college and funded by a government research grant. lessons learned - 1. never underestimate the pettiness of bureaucrats. and 2. my being a smartass is funny for some people but for others....

rick

[vanilla ice]

Lolz rKO. You roooool.

Sucks about the damage. Props to Oat for taking good care of a customer!

[ambroseliao]

Another TF M-750X for sale in California!This one is a M-750X for $2K.

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv/bi ... 61033.html

Ambrose

[El_Steak]

If you already have or plan on buying one of these frames and you want to mount a 6 inch brake on a thick motor like the Nine Continents, have a look at this thread I created with detailed instructions on how I did it.

[Reid]

Hi,

I am interested in the full kit (both frames) plus all parts. Is it still available? Can you give me a quote? How do we proceed with payment?

Thanks,
Reid
Del Mar, CA

[oatnet]

Hi,

I am interested in the full kit (both frames) plus all parts. Is it still available? Can you give me a quote? How do we proceed with payment?

Thanks,
Reid
Del Mar, CA

Hi Reid!

I still have frames and parts available. Join the forum and send me a PM (Private Message) with your email address, color preference, etc. I take PayPal to your confirmed address or USPS Money Order.

-JD

[jag]

after i argued and won a case with Customs in 2004, the next shipment i got from China was a bunch of hub motors with a stub axle on one side only. large, heavy, metalic, pancake shaped object, pin projecting from one side.. hmmm.. LAND MINES maybe? I got a visit from the Royal Canadian Mounted Police (our FBI), Canadian Security Intelligence Service (CSIS-our combined CIA/Counter Terrorist cops) and a Customs/revenue agent (they don't need a search warrant for import/customs related stuff). after the initial introductions the first question was from the CSIS guy - "Is this Shipment from China? The communist one?" to which i replied "is there any other kind? I guess that means you flunked high school geography. Huh! Some spy you make!" the Mountie was laugning, the CSIS guy was frothing and i was in custody for being UnCooperative.

Some years ago I took a colleague and his mobile robot to JFK for a flight to a DARPA demo. Everything was packed in two anonymomous looking plywood boxes. It started unpromising in the morning when despite struggle we couldn't get the bigger of the two boxes to fit in either the trunk, rear or front of my Passat. After a while we took out the passenger front seat and managed to get it into the car. At JFK we had the reverse unpacking procedure, got the boxes on a cart, and got my friend lined up for the busy check counter.

Arriving at the checkin desk the smaller box got weighted, passed the weight limit and got onto the conveyor. Box two went on the scale. "Sir, your luggage is overweight you have to remove something". My friend said he was willing to pay. "Sir your box is over 100lbs. Regulations prohibit transport of such a heavy box. You have to remove something. My friend answered: "Ok I'll remove the batteries". Clerk: "Batteries?? What's in the box?" Friend: "A robot". Clerk: "Robot? "What's in the other box?" (that was already going down the conveyor) Friend: "Laser". That was apparently the wrong answer. The clerk yelled "Bring that box back" and the crowd of people around the check-in desk suddenly moved away. Looked like the robot and laser was going nowhere.... After some time one of our prof's showed up and luckily managed to explain the situation. Lead Acid batteries got taken out of the robot and put in hand luggage and off they went.

Next time I didn't just get to drive him to the airport, but we drove cross-country to Detroit with two robots in the trunk (w/o boxes we managed to fit them.) My friend insisted we don;t short cut through Canada on the way there lest we get stuck at the border. On the way home we did go through Canada and managed to get through both customs crossings w/o problems.

[oatnet]

A number of people recently asked me if I still have frames and parts, and how much they cost.

The answer is YES I do still have frames in both colors available, and the parts listed below. I copied the price list from the first post and included it below for convenience.

-JD
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Each Frame 'kit' includes:
***** (1) TidalForce S-750 frame in your choice of Silver or Red
***** (1) Bottom Bracket (installed)
***** (1) 3-ring Front Derialluer (installed)
***** (1) Kickstand (installed)
***** (1) Seatpost (installed)
***** (1) Seat (loose)
***** 15% Discount on any other parts paid for and shipped with the frame

(1) Frame kit: $75
(2) Frame kits: $100

Additional OEM TidalForce S-750 Parts (loose, repackaged)
TAKE 15% ADDITIONAL OFF THESE PRICES WHEN BUYING A FRAME!
=====================================
$34 pair, Tecktro v-brakes (Front and rear, includes pads, cables, and mounting hardware, clears 2.5" hookworm tires)
$28 SRAM 48t/38t/28t cranksets/ pedal arms
$18 Shimano ACERA Rear Derailleurs
$14 pair, Wellgo pedals
$ 6 pair, Tektro v-brake levers (left and right, imbedded magnet for brake sensor)
$ 9 SRAM 7-speed cassettes
$ 8 Chains
$35 Durable Double Kickstands


Shipping will be actual-cost FedEx ground shipping at posted rates. Payment accepted via PayPal if shipped to your CONFIMED address and you pay their 3% fee, or via USPS money order (onlY USPS!).

[tritonwow]

PM sent. Thanks.

[tritonwow]

What is the seat post diameter on the frame? I ask because I looked at that Thudbuster...ingenious! Does it really work well ('cuz it seems you added a spring seat too)?

[oatnet]

What is the seat post diameter on the frame? I ask because I looked at that Thudbuster...ingenious! Does it really work well ('cuz it seems you added a spring seat too)?

I swear by the thudbuster, it works really well, I have tried other suspension seatposts and rated them all a fail - maybe they are OK for a smaller person, but not for me. I also use cloud 9 seats, I swear by their big cushy versions, haven't tried the smaller ones. I wasn't comfortable on bikes until I got to this combination.

I just checked the seatpost from the silver frame in your order waiting to ship, and it says 30.6. According to my records, I bought the 27.2 thudbusters, and cane creek's 27.2-30.6 'Inserts'. I would recommend purchasing the longest post length (450mm?) they sell.

-JD

[ambroseliao]

Thanks JD for that information. I picked up a ThudBuster on eBay and need that adapter. I used some rolled up aluminum sheeting for now but it keeps slipping. Hopefully, the TB spacer will eliminate that slipping and just fit and hold.

Ambrose

[SunCoaster]

JD, thank you for the excellent value and prompt shipment of the frames I ordered. The frames are very high quality at a low price.

Tom in Oregon

[tritonwow]

I received the frames today and WOW! Oatnet was very easy to work with especially since I had a unique mailing situation. I had planned on selling one of the frames but I'm not sure now; maybe a racer bike and a hauler bike....

[oatnet]

Thanks SunCoaster and tritonwow, I am glad you are pleased. I look forward to seeing what you create!

I still have frames and parts available, although shipping might be a little slower through the Holidays - my wife warned me that if she gets to FedEx/USPS and there is a huge line she would rather try again at a different time/day. After December 25th, things should be back to normal, and we will have your stuff in the mail the day after payment!

I copied the current parts list below for your convenience.

-JD



Each Frame 'kit' includes:
***** (1) TidalForce S-750 frame in your choice of Silver or Red
***** (1) Bottom Bracket (installed)
***** (1) 3-ring Front Derialluer (installed)
***** (1) Kickstand (installed)
***** (1) Seatpost (installed)
***** (1) Seat (loose)
***** 15% Discount on any other parts paid for and shipped with the frame

(1) Frame kit: $75
(2) Frame kits: $100

Additional OEM TidalForce S-750 Parts (loose, repackaged)
TAKE 15% ADDITIONAL OFF THESE PRICES WHEN BUYING A FRAME!
=====================================
$34 pair, Tecktro v-brakes (Front and rear, includes pads, cables, and mounting hardware, clears 2.5" hookworm tires)
$28 SRAM 48t/38t/28t cranksets/ pedal arms
$18 Shimano ACERA Rear Derailleurs
$14 pair, Wellgo pedals
$ 6 pair, Tektro v-brake levers (left and right, imbedded magnet for brake sensor)
$ 9 SRAM 7-speed cassettes
$ 8 Chains
$35 Durable Double Kickstands


Shipping will be actual-cost FedEx ground shipping at posted rates. Payment accepted via PayPal if shipped to your CONFIMED address and you pay their 3% fee, or via USPS money order (onlY USPS!).

[tritonwow]

Oatnet,
Thought I'd give the post a bump by asking a question: What torque arms have you found mate up to the built in bracket on the TF frame? I'm going to use a Bafang and 160mm rear disc (hopefully this clears the bracket too!)
Hope you had a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year,
Triton

PS build is coming together and I'll get before/after pics on that thread once I'm done.

[FRANKVZ]

Hi JD, PM sent

[oatnet]

I still have frames and parts available, and my wife has informed me she can get into the post office again now the holidays are over. The parts I have are listed below. Time to start working on that new build for spring, using one of these robust e-bike frames!

-JD



Each Frame 'kit' includes:
***** (1) TidalForce S-750 frame in your choice of Silver or Red
***** (1) Bottom Bracket (installed)
***** (1) 3-ring Front Derialluer (installed)
***** (1) Kickstand (installed)
***** (1) Seatpost (installed)
***** (1) Seat (loose)
***** 15% Discount on any other parts paid for and shipped with the frame

(1) Frame kit: $75
(2) Frame kits: $100

Additional OEM TidalForce S-750 Parts (loose, repackaged)
TAKE 15% ADDITIONAL OFF THESE PRICES WHEN BUYING A FRAME!
=====================================
$34 pair, Tecktro v-brakes (Front and rear, includes pads, cables, and mounting hardware, clears 2.5" hookworm tires)
$28 SRAM 48t/38t/28t cranksets/ pedal arms
$18 Shimano ACERA Rear Derailleurs
$14 pair, Wellgo pedals
$ 6 pair, Tektro v-brake levers (left and right, imbedded magnet for brake sensor)
$ 9 SRAM 7-speed cassettes
$ 8 Chains
$35 Durable Double Kickstands


Shipping will be actual-cost FedEx ground shipping at posted rates. Payment accepted via PayPal if shipped to your CONFIMED address and you pay their 3% fee, or via USPS money order (onlY USPS!).

[bionx 1954]

Hi I am interested in 2 frames , I live in Ottawa, Ontario, Canada. Can you tell me the shipping weight and size of the box, so I can get a price from Fedex (ground ship), I have a Paypal account. Thanks Neil

[LI-ghtcycle]

Ok, I found info on the size of the frames from Tidal Force, they are 17in. if I'm not mistaken?

And I'm guessing they are made of aluminum? Can you post the weight of one of the frames please?

Thanks!

[pvorlicek]

JD:

PM sent, did you receive it?

Where in Socal are you located?

I'm in north county San Diego.

Thanks,

Preston