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Bonneville 216mph ride along vid.

Postby StudEbiker » Sat Sep 17, 2011 6:30 pm

I need a tissue...... :mrgreen:

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Re: Bonneville 216mph ride along vid.

Postby Jay64 » Sun Sep 18, 2011 11:08 am

Don't they have to do a return trip to make "legal"? Seemed like it was running out of juice a little at the end. Don't get me wrong, that was cool as shit, I'm just wondering how much of their pack they burned up on that run and if they could back it up in the opposite direction. Or do the rules allow for a recharge before heading back?
Did the guy in the background at the end of the run tell him not to be an asshole? Right before the rider told him to go do what he is good at???
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Re: Bonneville 216mph ride along vid.

Postby VoKuS » Sun Sep 18, 2011 1:57 pm

Well this bike is not electric, but its fast :)

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Re: Bonneville 216mph ride along vid.

Postby Jay64 » Sun Sep 18, 2011 9:34 pm

There is something seriously wrong with his speedo. Even if that was set to kilometers per hour that was quite generous for the actual speed he was moving past the other vehicles. It is impressive riding, but there is no way that bike was going that fast.
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Re: Bonneville 216mph ride along vid.

Postby Gregski » Sun Sep 18, 2011 10:05 pm

speed doesn't impress me
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Re: Bonneville 216mph ride along vid.

Postby jonescg » Sun Sep 18, 2011 10:16 pm

Jay64 wrote:There is something seriously wrong with his speedo. Even if that was set to kilometers per hour that was quite generous for the actual speed he was moving past the other vehicles. It is impressive riding, but there is no way that bike was going that fast.


Even with stock gearing, my Blackbird is probably 12% out. It reads 299 km/h, but more like 265 in reality I'd say. Only done on a deserted freeway at night ;)
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Re: Bonneville 216mph ride along vid.

Postby Hillhater » Sun Sep 18, 2011 11:40 pm

Ghost Rider is an idiot. :evil:
if he keeps doing these stunts, he will kill himself ( no big loss) , but sadly he may well kill or injure someone else also.
If he thinks he is a good rider, he should prove it on the track, not on a youtube vid.. :roll:
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Re: Bonneville 216mph ride along vid.

Postby StudEbiker » Sun Sep 18, 2011 11:54 pm

I agree Hillhater. Not sure why the poster put that vid up on an E-moto thread.
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Re: Bonneville 216mph ride along vid.

Postby VoKuS » Mon Sep 19, 2011 3:02 am

StudEbiker wrote:I agree Hillhater. Not sure why the poster put that vid up on an E-moto thread.

Just wanted to add something a little more visually exciting to this thread.... :)

Hillhater wrote:Ghost Rider is an idiot. :evil:
if he keeps doing these stunts, he will kill himself ( no big loss) , but sadly he may well kill or injure someone else also.
If he thinks he is a good rider, he should prove it on the track, not on a youtube vid.. :roll:


I think Ghost Rider / Patrik Furstenhoff is a great dude, he does what he loves with passion and judging from all his previous rides he is very good at what he does.
Even if he does kill some one else in an accident, it just simply means it was that persons time to go. People don't choose when they are born or when/how they die, we don't bring anything in to this world or take anything with us.

Jay64 wrote:There is something seriously wrong with his speedo. Even if that was set to kilometers per hour that was quite generous for the actual speed he was moving past the other vehicles. It is impressive riding, but there is no way that bike was going that fast.

Looks reasonable to me, considering that freeways in Europe have a little higher speed limits and people in Europe drive a little faster, the speed seem spot on, especially if you look at stationary objects in the video, like road signs... 299kph is 185mph... A modern GSXR 1000 has no problems getting to 185 really fast...

jonescg wrote:Even with stock gearing, my Blackbird is probably 12% out. It reads 299 km/h, but more like 265 in reality I'd say. Only done on a deserted freeway at night ;)

Interesting, thats alot of error...

Gregski wrote:speed doesn't impress me

Yeah, speed is a relative thing... I wonder what a jet pilot things of when hes talking about going fast :)


I hope I live long enough to experience a GSXR like performance on an electric motorcycle, that weights less and has super long range... Wonder how long we will have to wait till electric vehicles go mainstream...
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Re: Bonneville 216mph ride along vid.

Postby JennyB » Mon Sep 19, 2011 10:59 am

Gregski wrote:speed doesn't impress me


I kept wondering why that first video looked so familiar. Then it hit me - the opening sequence of the original TV series "The Fugitive". Was that filmed on a run at Bonneville? It was a great image for "running fast, going nowhere" because those hills in the distance never seemed to come any closer.
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Re: Bonneville 216mph ride along vid.

Postby mistercrash » Mon Sep 19, 2011 11:07 am

VoKuS wrote:I think Ghost Rider / Patrik Furstenhoff is a great dude, he does what he loves with passion and judging from all his previous rides he is very good at what he does.
Even if he does kill some one else in an accident, it just simply means it was that persons time to go. People don't choose when they are born or when/how they die, we don't bring anything in to this world or take anything with us.


Hmmmm... I seriously do not wish for this to ever happen to you but if the first person he kills doing his stunts happens to be a loved one of yours, like your child or your wife, try to come back here and post that same phrase again.
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Re: Bonneville 216mph ride along vid.

Postby vanilla ice » Mon Sep 19, 2011 11:57 am

The vids are exciting but I have to agree.. if pat or one of the other ghost rider type guys takes out someone you love, you won't be saying "it was just their time." That is BS. He may be a great rider but shlt happens, even to the best.

Oh, and nice estreamliner vid too.

Its more often than not that bike (and car) speedos are 10-15% low. In fact its so common I'm surprised when one isn't..
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Re: Bonneville 216mph ride along vid.

Postby Hillhater » Mon Sep 19, 2011 5:55 pm

VoKuS wrote:I think Ghost Rider / Patrik Furstenhoff is a great dude,...

.... Ghost rider ( whoever he may be), is a selfish, irresponsible a55h0le, with no consideration for anyone else on the roads ( or pedestrians !). The only good thing is that he is on a different continent to me and most of the folk i care about
He should be hunted down, licence removed permanently ( but im sure he would not care anyway ), and made to watch as his beloved 'Busa is slowly fed into a rock crusher !
The he should be made to work permanent manual traffic control duty at the Arc de Triomphe in Paris.


... and you have a judgement problem ! .. i suggest you should ride pillion with GR a few times !
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Re: Bonneville 216mph ride along vid.

Postby itchynackers » Mon Sep 19, 2011 7:55 pm

The first time I saw his vids, I couldn't believe it either, but the more I watched/learned, the more believable it is. Insanity doesn't even come close. A highly modified turbo busa shouldn't have any trouble hitting those speeds, and more.
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Re: Bonneville 216mph ride along vid.

Postby Jay64 » Mon Sep 19, 2011 8:00 pm

Yes, they don't have problems hitting those speeds. I have raced bikes on tracks with a radar captured speed over 180 mph a lot. I personally just don't feel that this speedometer is accurate for what I am seeing in the vid, compared to what I see when riding at those speeds, and that is with all the other vehicles around me also going 180+ mph. Just my 2 cents.
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Re: Bonneville 216mph ride along vid.

Postby liveforphysics » Mon Sep 19, 2011 11:19 pm

Hillhater wrote:
VoKuS wrote:I think Ghost Rider / Patrik Furstenhoff is a great dude,...

.... Ghost rider ( whoever he may be), is a selfish, irresponsible a55h0le, with no consideration for anyone else on the roads ( or pedestrians !). The only good thing is that he is on a different continent to me and most of the folk i care about
He should be hunted down, licence removed permanently ( but im sure he would not care anyway ), and made to watch as his beloved 'Busa is slowly fed into a rock crusher !
The he should be made to work permanent manual traffic control duty at the Arc de Triomphe in Paris.


... and you have a judgement problem ! .. i suggest you should ride pillion with GR a few times !



First of all, it's not a Busa, it's a GSXR-1000 fitted with a turbo. Busa's are grampabike chassis compared to a GSX-R 1k. Good only for salt-flats type rubbish.

Second, every video GhostRider makes is like an injection of life-force to watch. A pure and brutal life-force stronger than anything you will ever experience in your life.

I've skydived, bungee-jumped, did a double-spin in a racecar in heavy race traffic at >100mph, raced superbikes on the track at >180mph, flown small planes recklessly, diving with sharks, diving in underwater caves, and done bunch of other things.

NOTHING is even halfway as intense as doing it on the street, where the cars are unpredictable, police want to imprison you if they catch you, and you know the reaper is following closely behind you the whole time. It is a rush only 1 in a million people will ever really experience. It is the saturation of human intensity and experience. There is no greater thrill or experience that leaves you with a chance of survival.
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Re: Bonneville 216mph ride along vid.

Postby VoKuS » Tue Sep 20, 2011 2:39 am

mistercrash wrote:Hmmmm... I seriously do not wish for this to ever happen to you but if the first person he kills doing his stunts happens to be a loved one of yours, like your child or your wife, try to come back here and post that same phrase again.


I don't wish for it to happen to anyone else either, im simply stating that its not any one human beings choice when you die.

My 17 year old sister died of brain cancer, and she wasted away for two whole years, until complete paralysis and death. It was like watching an accident take place for 2 whole years. No matter what you do death comes at its appointed time.

vanilla ice wrote:The vids are exciting but I have to agree.. if pat or one of the other ghost rider type guys takes out someone you love, you won't be saying "it was just their time." That is BS. He may be a great rider but shlt happens, even to the best.


The simple truth is, that it is just their time to go, absolutely nothing you can do about it. In life this happens every day, you or I can be next. Sure its sad, but out of our hands to control.

Hillhater wrote:.... Ghost rider ( whoever he may be), is a selfish, irresponsible a55h0le, with no consideration for anyone else on the roads ( or pedestrians !). The only good thing is that he is on a different continent to me and most of the folk i care about
He should be hunted down, licence removed permanently ( but im sure he would not care anyway ), and made to watch as his beloved 'Busa is slowly fed into a rock crusher !
The he should be made to work permanent manual traffic control duty at the Arc de Triomphe in Paris.



Don't worrie Hillhater, you have a million more times the chance that you will be killed in your own town by a drunk driving neighbor or relative then a sober motorcyclist surfing the freeway at 180mph...

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Re: Bonneville 216mph ride along vid.

Postby Hillhater » Tue Sep 20, 2011 4:15 am

liveforphysics wrote:
Hillhater wrote:
VoKuS wrote:I think Ghost Rider / Patrik Furstenhoff is a great dude,...

.... Ghost rider ( whoever he may be), is a selfish, irresponsible a55h0le, with no consideration for anyone else on the roads ( or pedestrians !). The only good thing is that he is on a different continent to me and most of the folk i care about
He should be hunted down, licence removed permanently ( but im sure he would not care anyway ), and made to watch as his beloved 'Busa is slowly fed into a rock crusher !
The he should be made to work permanent manual traffic control duty at the Arc de Triomphe in Paris.


... and you have a judgement problem ! .. i suggest you should ride pillion with GR a few times !



First of all, it's not a Busa, it's a GSXR-1000 fitted with a turbo. Busa's are grampabike chassis compared to a GSX-R 1k. Good only for salt-flats type rubbish.

Second, every video GhostRider makes is like an injection of life-force to watch. A pure and brutal life-force stronger than anything you will ever experience in your life.

I've skydived, bungee-jumped, did a double-spin in a racecar in heavy race traffic at >100mph, raced superbikes on the track at >180mph, flown small planes recklessly, diving with sharks, diving in underwater caves, and done bunch of other things.

NOTHING is even halfway as intense as doing it on the street, where the cars are unpredictable, police want to imprison you if they catch you, and you know the reaper is following closely behind you the whole time. It is a rush only 1 in a million people will ever really experience. It is the saturation of human intensity and experience. There is no greater thrill or experience that leaves you with a chance of survival.


who gives a shit what bike he rides ?
All the adrenaline in the world doesnt make it any less of a reckless, inconsiderate, selfish, f*kwit act .
When that rush and thrill is replaced by the reality of death, grief and knowing that you cannot replace someones child or parent , partner etc ...its too late. you get your thrill, and someone else suffers for a lifetime.
The highway is not the place to prove your manhood.
If you want excitement , go drive a patrol over a potentially mined road in Afghanistan.
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Re: Bonneville 216mph ride along vid.

Postby gogo » Tue Sep 20, 2011 5:37 am

Adrenaline explains a lot of foolish and questionable behavior. Junkies are junkies whether the drug is produced internally or externally.
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Re: Bonneville 216mph ride along vid.

Postby vanilla ice » Tue Sep 20, 2011 11:11 am

VoKuS wrote:The simple truth is, that it is just their time to go, absolutely nothing you can do about it. In life this happens every day, you or I can be next. Sure its sad, but out of our hands to control.
Yea I guess it is all in Ghost Rider's hands.. :roll:

Sure its true you don't have control over everything, but people need to take some responsibility. We DO have some control of our lives and the lives of those around us. Its the easy cop out to say "oh everything is out of our control, so we can just do whatever and it doesn't matter."

Don't get me wrong, I don't think this Pat guy is the devil incarnate or anything. I see similar inconsiderate asses in cars fly by me everyday on the freeway and I don't chase them down and start a fight or anything..

BTW If you're cruising along in your car at 60mph, what has more energy if it hits you- a Tahoe speeding at 90mph or a Busa at 180? :P
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Re: Bonneville 216mph ride along vid.

Postby liveforphysics » Tue Sep 20, 2011 12:00 pm

A typical weight SUV or pickup (6000lbs) traveling at 75mph is over double the destructive kenetic energy of Ghostrider on a GSXR1000 at 180mph.

Secondly, it can't slip through tiny places to avoid contact.

Third, its not able to make the nearly instant direction changes needed to avoid danger that springs up on it. (Kid stepping out into the road etc)

Fourth, people feel isolated driving them, not feeling the need to pay attention to driving, even though they are carrying twice the destructive energy of GhostRider at 180mph.

Fifth, GhostRider has over 15 years of doing this exact style of riding. No incidences. That's better than most of the driviers on the road he is weaving between can say for themselves just commuting.
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Re: Bonneville 216mph ride along vid.

Postby gogo » Tue Sep 20, 2011 12:22 pm

liveforphysics wrote:A typical weight SUV or pickup (6000lbs) traveling at 75mph is over double the destructive kenetic energy of Ghostrider on a GSXR1000 at 180mph.

Secondly, it can't slip through tiny places to avoid contact.

Third, its not able to make the nearly instant direction changes needed to avoid danger that springs up on it. (Kid stepping out into the road etc)

Fourth, people feel isolated driving them, not feeling the need to pay attention to driving, even though they are carrying twice the destructive energy of GhostRider at 180mph.

Fifth, GhostRider has over 15 years of doing this exact style of riding. No incidences. That's better than most of the driviers on the road he is weaving between can say for themselves just commuting.


I seem to recall a Car and Driver comparison of sport bikes and sports cars that concluded bikes were superior at acceleration but crap at handling. If he got thrown in prison for his antics I wouldn't feel sorry for him.
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Re: Bonneville 216mph ride along vid.

Postby liveforphysics » Tue Sep 20, 2011 1:43 pm

Car and Driver is a bunch of ass clowns.

Fastest lap ever on Laguna from a car and driver clown in a road going car is 1:37 in a monster porsche 996 turbo with 500hp. Mission motors did a 1:28 on an ELECTRIC motorcycle...

I watched Casey Stoner do 1:23's at Laguna on his superbike. No road going car could have even qualified.

There was no traffic on that highway (or any public highway) that can out handle that bike/rider combo.

More importantly, the supercars driven by racecar drivers on the highway would NOT be an issue in the least for causing traffic problem. lol

The safety problems on the highways are idiots choosing 6000lbs vehicles to commute there single human body around.
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Re: Bonneville 216mph ride along vid.

Postby Hillhater » Tue Sep 20, 2011 4:31 pm

liveforphysics wrote:I watched Casey Stoner do 1:23's at Laguna on his superbike. No road going car could have even qualified.
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Why would you campare a Superbike to a roadcar ?
bike performance is all down to light weight + high power = accelleration and top speed.
They are SLOW at cornering due to the limited tire contact area.
Fast open tracks favor bikes, twisty tracks favor cars
( Stoner doesnt ride a Superbike ..he rides Moto GP )

..There was no traffic on that highway (or any public highway) that can out handle that bike/rider combo.


That sound like the old western gunfighter bragging.."fastest gun in town" etc ...until a faster one turns up ! :roll:

And there is always some one more stupid who will change lanes without warning, brake , etc , or the unpredictable event like birdstrike, animals ( a friend hit a horse on a highway !), things falling from trucks, blown tyres etc etc.
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Re: Bonneville 216mph ride along vid.

Postby StudEbiker » Tue Sep 20, 2011 4:42 pm

Wow, I actually thought the electric land speed record being set would be something that would interest people on this forum. Instead we are now discussing ICE motos (and the adrenaline junkies that ride them) and now ICE cars. :roll: I guess I should have posted this in OTD. :| For those that say speed doesn't impress them. I have heard that fewer people have gone 200+ mph on the salt than have reached the top of Mt. Everest. It is not an achievement to be taken lightly IMO.
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