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Re: Molicel IMR-26700A/AB

Postby nebriancent » Wed Sep 28, 2011 12:04 pm

no video plasma or fire just a lot of bent and broken parts in the front end

**edit the thing that realy impressed me was the bike still turned on, spun up, lights all still work, and after folding the front rim in half i didnt get a flat or kill my shocks:)

already fixed - front rim, CA, front brakes, wiring to CA,

had to make a hole new bottom end for my CA
i used some extra plate at work last night and made a mounting point out of a few nuts and a couple of bolts
but... now im geting a dead line thru the ca i meen it all works just one line in the display dosnt function
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any ideas on what it could be...
mabee just a bad connection to the lcd board in one part or somthing???
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Re: Molicel IMR-26700A/AB

Postby beast775 » Wed Sep 28, 2011 12:05 pm

damn it! i just had my front fender brace lock up my front wheel,i need a vid cam.thats awesome to hear LFP :) .
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Re: Molicel IMR-26700A/AB

Postby heathyoung » Wed Sep 28, 2011 6:34 pm

A dead line on the LCD is caused by the rubber strip between the LCD glass and the circuit board underneath it. These are crimped at the rear (the metal 'tangs' onto the PCB) - sometimes moving these fixes the issue, otherwise the LCD is a standard 16X2 unit.
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Re: Molicel IMR-26700A/AB

Postby cassschr1 » Wed Sep 28, 2011 9:20 pm

Luke, in testing those cells about the highest was 2050 ma with most at 1300 to 1700, and a whole lot of just dead ones. At one point I had taken apart 40 milwaukee V28 packs and every f.....g cell was bad. Ridgid 24v were better. Both have the same BMS manufacturer. I built four packs of moli 12s4p with every cell tested by itself , 192 cells . This is all on one TF on the top tube. I wish my cells delivered 2.5 ah
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Re: Molicel IMR-26700A/AB

Postby SlyCayer » Wed Sep 28, 2011 9:22 pm

P.S: Milwaukee M18 Red-Lithiums are not Sanyo, they are Samsung INR18650-15M

I will be performing tests on these to see the max discharge current.
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Re: Molicel IMR-26700A/AB

Postby nebriancent » Thu Sep 29, 2011 11:53 am

heathyoung wrote:A dead line on the LCD is caused by the rubber strip between the LCD glass and the circuit board underneath it. These are crimped at the rear (the metal 'tangs' onto the PCB) - sometimes moving these fixes the issue, otherwise the LCD is a standard 16X2 unit.


thanks i was thinking that the rubber sh%# might be the problem

ill have to give that a try on the weekend as i have sealed my unit of w/ silicon and don't feel like going through the bother till then
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Re: Molicel IMR-26700A/AB

Postby methods » Thu Sep 29, 2011 5:41 pm

liveforphysics wrote:....
Methods and I both have over 1,000 of these moli-cel 26700 LiMn cells in new condition that do test over 2.5Ah. I personally don't sell things like that, only give it away to folks who do things that impress me.

Methods sells his I believe though.



That is because I am a money grubbing energy whore. :wink:

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Re: Molicel IMR-26700A/AB

Postby SlyCayer » Thu Sep 29, 2011 6:03 pm

methods wrote:That is because I am a money grubbing energy whore. :wink:


LoL
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Re: Molicel IMR-26700A/AB

Postby SlyCayer » Thu Sep 29, 2011 8:04 pm

Took about half of the cells out of packs...

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Re: Molicel IMR-26700A/AB

Postby Kin » Thu Sep 29, 2011 8:47 pm

Woah, four screen work station?
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Re: Molicel IMR-26700A/AB

Postby SlyCayer » Fri Sep 30, 2011 5:51 pm

Kin wrote:Woah, four screen work station?


Yeh, I might have 4 more coming that will be 2 high by 4 wide.
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Re: Molicel IMR-26700A/AB

Postby SlyCayer » Sat Oct 01, 2011 10:54 pm

Alright,

Test Cell 3 and 4 choosen very randomly scored a high 2.09 and 2.15Ah at 1C.

Is it possible that at like 7C the battery can't just take it?

The test went on for only like 2 seconds??
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Re: Molicel IMR-26700A/AB

Postby SamTexas » Sun Oct 02, 2011 12:17 am

7C is 20.3A per cell, right?

That's only half of the maximum 40A claimed rate. Disappointing for sure but not totally surprising considering the common practice of over advertising. So do you plan to continue testing at lower rate? 5C, 4C...

I wonder if people who bought HK super duper high discharge RC Lipo batteries (50-100C) have ever actually done any testing at all.

Edit: I just went back to look at the discharge graph in the data sheet you provided:

They did have discharge data at 20A (red) and 30A (black), and the capacity is only about 15% less than 3A discharge. So it looks like you have problem with the test equipment.
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Re: Molicel IMR-26700A/AB

Postby methods » Sun Oct 02, 2011 1:02 am

Emoli cells are good to about 3C in the real world. If you want high discharge then buy Lipo.

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Re: Molicel IMR-26700A/AB

Postby liveforphysics » Sun Oct 02, 2011 1:23 am

methods wrote:Emoli cells are good to about 3C in the real world. If you want high discharge then buy Lipo.

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+1

The datasheets on these cells were written by a dreamer.
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Re: Molicel IMR-26700A/AB

Postby methods » Sun Oct 02, 2011 1:30 am

Didn't the former member Safe used to do technical writing at Emoli?
In three different colors and sizes..

:mrgreen:

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Re: Molicel IMR-26700A/AB

Postby SlyCayer » Thu Oct 06, 2011 8:34 pm

Anyone wants these Emolis? They are mostly between 1.6 to 2.5Ah.

Tested a bunch and I am pretty dissapointed.

Make an offer for the cells bare and if you want, make an offer with the Milwaukee packs still assembled.

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Re: Molicel IMR-26700A/AB

Postby beast775 » Thu Oct 06, 2011 9:34 pm

thanks for testing,ive got a hilti shop right down the road, so im out.
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Re: Molicel IMR-26700A/AB

Postby SlyCayer » Fri Oct 07, 2011 1:14 pm

beast775 wrote:thanks for testing,ive got a hilti shop right down the road, so im out.


What does a Hilti shop have to do with the thread?
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Re: Molicel IMR-26700A/AB

Postby docnjoj » Fri Oct 07, 2011 1:35 pm

SlyCayer wrote:
beast775 wrote:thanks for testing,ive got a hilti shop right down the road, so im out.


What does a Hilti shop have to do with the thread?


I believe they make high end rotary tools like drills and stuff, and probably some are cordless.
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Re: Molicel IMR-26700A/AB

Postby SlyCayer » Sat Oct 08, 2011 7:14 pm

docnjoj wrote:I believe they make high end rotary tools like drills and stuff, and probably some are cordless.
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Yeh, but why does it relate to Emolis?
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Re: Molicel IMR-26700A/AB

Postby methods » Sat Oct 08, 2011 9:51 pm

omg.... where did you get your emoli cells from??? :roll:

This is a pretty easy one...

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docnjoj wrote:I believe they make high end rotary tools like drills and stuff, and probably some are cordless.
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Re: Molicel IMR-26700A/AB

Postby SlyCayer » Sun Oct 09, 2011 7:51 pm

methods wrote:omg.... where did you get your emoli cells from??? :roll:

This is a pretty easy one...

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I got them from Milwaukee V18/V28 battery packs, but Hilti is Hilti and Milwaukee is Milwaukee, what I did not understand is why he was "out" because he had a Hilti shop close to him.
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Re: Molicel IMR-26700A/AB

Postby nebriancent » Sat Nov 05, 2011 1:46 am

lols sales thread officially high-jacked and redirected
sorry man i guess i started with the off topic posts and now ppl are so happy with your research and development that they had forgot you are selling these cells and are off to source some for themselves
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Re: Molicel IMR-26700A/AB

Postby pmac086 » Tue Nov 08, 2011 5:19 am

Hi, This is pmac086, please let me know if you still have a few of the Molicel 26700A ( IMR-26700A) , I need about 30 with tags so that I can solder them in series and parallel strings to make up 38 volt 10 Ah Cheers
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