E-S Stealth Electric Bike Owners

[Cowardlyduck]

Voicecoils, did you use any lock tight on them screws when you put my motor back together?

Yes, a thin green thread locker should be on them. It's a wicking & does not make a permanent bond, some formulas do.

We use it on our eZee motors but perhaps your higher temps & more rapid heat cycling isn't helping. The factory thread lock is whiteish and thick/waxy.

Maybe try a high temp locktite like this:
http://www.loctite.com.au/cps/rde/xchg/henkel_aue/hs.xsl/3423_AUS_HTML.htm?iname=Loctite+%25C2%25AE+272%25E2%2584%25A2+Threadlocker&countryCode=aue&BU=industrial&parentredDotUID=productfinder&redDotUID=10000009QUG

Thanks Voicecoils. Sorry should never have doubted you.

I redid them with some standard red locktight from bunnings, we'll see how that holds.

This morning on my commute I tried locking out the front and rear shocks when going up hills. Saved about 1.5AH over the course of the ride.
Didn't realize having a saggy butt made such a difference.

QMS, nice ride there mate. Sure you'll only be using it as a 'Demo'? Looks like a keeper to me.
You realise you can get brighter (and probably cheaper) lights from this site that don't stick out so much.
http://www.dealextreme.com/c/bike-lights-and-electronics-1622?page=1&pagesize=52&pagesort=relevance
I have this one. Very bright.


TBH, I'm not one for keeping my Fighter terribly clean and 'nice' looking. It'll just get dirty again the next day as I ride mine soooooo much.

Cheers

[Kepler]

I redid them with some standard red locktight from bunnings, we'll see how that holds.

I don't use any locktite on mine but i do use a flat washer followed by a spring washer and then a Nyloc nut all torqued up nice and tight. I have 2kW of regen at times with no problem of things coming loose. Only problem with high strength locktite is that you might have trouble getting it apart again, should be OK though.

This morning on my commute I tried locking out the front and rear shocks when going up hills. Saved about 1.5AH over the course of the ride.
Didn't realize having a saggy butt made such a difference.

That's a huge difference. Very surprising.

[QMS]

Voicecoils, did you use any lock tight on them screws when you put my motor back together?

Yes, a thin green thread locker should be on them. It's a wicking & does not make a permanent bond, some formulas do.

We use it on our eZee motors but perhaps your higher temps & more rapid heat cycling isn't helping. The factory thread lock is whiteish and thick/waxy.

Maybe try a high temp locktite like this:
http://www.loctite.com.au/cps/rde/xchg/henkel_aue/hs.xsl/3423_AUS_HTML.htm?iname=Loctite+%25C2%25AE+272%25E2%2584%25A2+Threadlocker&countryCode=aue&BU=industrial&parentredDotUID=productfinder&redDotUID=10000009QUG

Thanks Voicecoils. Sorry should never have doubted you.

I redid them with some standard red locktight from bunnings, we'll see how that holds.

This morning on my commute I tried locking out the front and rear shocks when going up hills. Saved about 1.5AH over the course of the ride.
Didn't realize having a saggy butt made such a difference.

QMS, nice ride there mate. Sure you'll only be using it as a 'Demo'? Looks like a keeper to me.
You realise you can get brighter (and probably cheaper) lights from this site that don't stick out so much.
http://www.dealextreme.com/c/bike-lights-and-electronics-1622?page=1&pagesize=52&pagesort=relevance
I have this one. Very bright.


TBH, I'm not one for keeping my Fighter terribly clean and 'nice' looking. It'll just get dirty again the next day as I ride mine soooooo much.

Cheers

Hi cowardlyduck. thanks. I know there are more powerful units ! But i thought $129 was pretty good for 750 lumens plus i thought the mini gun style realy suited the bomber

[Mr Lowbank]

Hi All
I am new here and are working my way thought the 92 pages of posts. Trying to get me self up to speed before I take delivery of my New Bomber next week! Very excited!
Have been spending way to long on the net looking for accessories. After much deliberation I just ordered online the Magicshine MJ-856 Flood Mountain Bike Light. I hope it will shine out far enough.
http://magicshineledlights.com.au/index.php?route=product/product&path=20_60&product_id=52
The guy from Magicshine rang 5 minutes after I ordered to clarify my address, very helpful.

This is my first EV and I have about 50 questions for the group but will work on that later.
Cheers All

[QMS]

Hi All
I am new here and are working my way thought the 92 pages of posts. Trying to get me self up to speed before I take delivery of my New Bomber next week! Very excited!
Have been spending way to long on the net looking for accessories. After much deliberation I just ordered online the Magicshine MJ-856 Flood Mountain Bike Light. I hope it will shine out far enough.
http://magicshineledlights.com.au/index.php?route=product/product&path=20_60&product_id=52
The guy from Magicshine rang 5 minutes after I ordered to clarify my address, very helpful.

This is my first EV and I have about 50 questions for the group but will work on that later.
Cheers All

Hi Mr Lowbank let us know when you get it. We can arange a ride if you like, I am in SA too! Had my bomber for about a month now. what colour did you order?

[sn0wchyld]

Hi All
I am new here and are working my way thought the 92 pages of posts. Trying to get me self up to speed before I take delivery of my New Bomber next week! Very excited!
Have been spending way to long on the net looking for accessories. After much deliberation I just ordered online the Magicshine MJ-856 Flood Mountain Bike Light. I hope it will shine out far enough.
http://magicshineledlights.com.au/index.php?route=product/product&path=20_60&product_id=52
The guy from Magicshine rang 5 minutes after I ordered to clarify my address, very helpful.

This is my first EV and I have about 50 questions for the group but will work on that later.
Cheers All

woot another south aussie. in a week its gone from 1-2 to 5 or more.
its going to be a sad day if we ever get together for a group ride... my homegrown ht+norko vs bombers, which seem popular here for some reason. I'll be feeling like a guy in a biker gang who's riding a scooter... ah well... still be fun.

where bouts in sa are you? in town or rural?

[Justtoby]

I am now back from a weeks holiday and I took the Bomber with me (whizz kid came down for a few days and brought his Fighter)

My Bomber saw its first big "off" but only has a few battle scars to prove it and I will remedy soon.

The mud was thick! We got some good pics and I am sure he will post up soon. I think these will go on our new website (soon to be launched....come on whizz kid!)

[Mr Lowbank]

I'm in the Riverland Where there is loads of three corner jacks and Cowtrop. (I think the Vic’s call it devils head or is that the Queenslanders.) I asked John about a tubeless set up but he wasn't confident that it would work with the rim (some think about a 11mm slot machined in the rim for the oversized spokes).
So have some brown Mr tuffys comming which are for 26 X 1.95-2.35, 2.5" tyres to start me off. once I get the bike I will look at tubless again. Does anybody have a good solution for thorn proofing the 3" tyres?
I do plan to do some rides in Adelaide with the kids.
My Avatar will give you a clue on the colour.

[Kepler]

Welcome to Forum and congratulations on your purchase.

So have some brown Mr tuffys comming which are for 26 X 1.95-2.35, 2.5" tyres to start me off. once I get the bike I will look at tubless again. Does anybody have a good solution for thorn proofing the 3" tyres?

I presume you mean 24" not 26"

Shoot a PM to Paul_G. He has done a lot work on making his Bomber as puncture proof as possible.

[full-throttle]

I asked John about a tubeless set up but he wasn't confident that it would work with the rim (some think about a 11mm slot machined in the rim for the oversized spokes).

Acc to Stan it will work. Don't remove the existing rim tape. Get the Downhill Rim Strip or the kit and follow the instructions

It can get messy

[Mr Lowbank]

I asked John about a tubeless set up but he wasn't confident that it would work with the rim (some think about a 11mm slot machined in the rim for the oversized spokes).

Acc to Stan it will work. Don't remove the existing rim tape. Get the Downhill Rim Strip or the kit and follow the instructions

It can get messy

Thanks for the links. John said the internal rim size is 39mm. What brand and the rims on the bomber? I might contact Stan and get a recommendation for a setup as on the web site it mentions to "call us and ask for our widest rim strips". not sure if this is wider than the standard down hill ones at 52"x38mm. Where do you get Stan's Notubes gear from?

I presume you mean 24" not 26"

Shoot a PM to Paul_G. He has done a lot work on making his Bomber as puncture proof as possible.

Hi Keler the tuffys come in 26" you just cut them down. cant find Paul_G but when I do I will ask him.

[Cowardlyduck]

So I'm looking to start buying my parts for my derailleur setup for my Fighter, and I just wanted to run it buy everyone.

I'm going to get the 11-32T 7speed freewheel from Ebikes.ca

http://ebikes.ca/store/store_nc.php

And pair it with either a SRAM X3 or X4. Anyone know what the difference is?
http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=41156

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=30631


Should I be getting long or medium (or even short) cage?

Now, the shifter is the tricky part. I don't really like grip shifters, and was hoping to get a quick shifter like this.
http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=41153

However they only mount on the right side of the handle bars. Does anyone know of any similar shifters that can be mounted on the left hand side of the handlebars?

Also, do shifters normally come with the cable?

Cheers

[Kepler]

I tried to put a 7 speed on a mates Fighter without a derailleur to use the 11 tooth for better high speed cadence. The 7 speed fitted OK but the chain angle caused it to bind against the next gear up. Hopefully the derailleur will take car of that. I presume a 5 speed cluster with an 11 tooth isn't available. If it was, this might be worth considering just in case the chain angle is too much.

In relation to shifters, perhaps a twist grip shifter might be the go. This can be mount on the left grip.http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=5723

[full-throttle]

Where do you get Stan's Notubes

The links are in my post, or try LBS - just don't tell them it's electric

The downhill strips will work on 39mm rims.

[Cowardlyduck]

I tried to put a 7 speed on a mates Fighter without a derailleur to use the 11 tooth for better high speed cadence. The 7 speed fitted OK but the chain angle caused it to bind against the next gear up. Hopefully the derailleur will take car of that. I presume a 5 speed cluster with an 11 tooth isn't available. If it was, this might be worth considering just in case the chain angle is too much.

Maybe a couple of gears can just be removed if it becomes a problem. Is that easy enough to do?

In relation to shifters, perhaps a twist grip shifter might be the go. This can be mount on the left grip.http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=5723

Dam, think you might be right Kepler. Searching searching searching, I can't find left hand quick/rapid rear shifters anywhere.
What about just installing next to the throttle? Bad idea?

What about bar end shifters?

Hmmm, I really wanna order the stuff soon, but really hadn't thought through my options for shifters that much until now.

Any other different solutions out there?

Cheers

[veloman]

I used a rapid fire shifter for the front gears (mounted a little oddly, but on the left side). And I use an old school 7 speed index lever for the rear gears on the left side. You don't want any shifting on the right side if that's where your throttle is.

[Cowardlyduck]

Oh man. Just when I was beginning to be ok with the idea of using a twist shift, I realize, it wouldn't be compatible with my button for power limiting.
http://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=23996start=945#p518679

I wouldn't be able to route my cables under the clamp for the shifter easily. grrrrr

I also forgot a chain. I think this one would do.
http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=20608


I think I'll buy these tonight before the CRC sale ends.

Cheers

[Cowardlyduck]

Sorry for all the post spamming. Kinda thinking through this as i go.

I might just get the twist shift Kepler recommended anyway. Would that one definitely work with a 7sp cluster?
If I were to get it, would I get the 50mm diameter one or the normal one?

Cheers

[Cowardlyduck]

LOL, and again.

OK, I'm thinking this is the final config I will want to go with.

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=30631
SRAM X4 Rear Mech 7/8sp
Long Cage

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=5723
SRAM X7 Twister Shifter 9sp
LH Front

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=20608
SRAM PC870 Chain 8sp

http://ebikes.ca/store/store_nc.php
FW7Spd1132

Can people in the know confirm if this combination will work ok?

Cheers

[Kepler]

Its a bit confusing that's for sure.

I think you need to order the Right hand rear 50mm and place it on the left hand side. It will turn in the opposite direction to normal but I don't think it will matter. I have done this on one of my bikes before. (I will take a picture) I think LH front is for a chain ring not the rear cluster.

In relation to the cluster, its the final 11 tooth that holds the assembly together so you cant shorten it. I think going with the long cage is a good idea.

[Kepler]

Here is a picture of an 8 speed twist shifter mounted on the left side. Numbers are upside down and twisting towards you gives you a higher gear. Feels logical as twisting towards yourself is for higher speeds.

[voicecoils]

Its a bit confusing that's for sure.

Here's one to make your head spin...

The SRAM Attack 9 speed gripshift set is the same on the LH and RH sides, just different labels. I bought the left hand '3 speed' one designed for for a front mech with a triple and it actually has 9 clicks and shifts fine on a 9 speed rear Shimano LX derailleur.

[Kepler]

So then the one CD mentioned will do the job. Cool.

[full-throttle]

The SRAM Attack 9 speed gripshift set is the same on the LH and RH sides, just different labels

Correct.

The older (400 series ?) work well with 7/8 speed

Here's one to make your head spin...

Rapid Rise!

[Cowardlyduck]

Thanks guy's. I think I'll give it some more thought/research before I go on a spending spree.

Who knows I might just end up getting Glowworm to do it all. LOL

Cheers