Renault Twizy

[lee]

They just need to sort out the battery leasing agreement. In principle it's a good idea to lease the battery because it roughly halves the price of the car (battery value app roc £5k) BUT they need to sort out there leasing rules and then most importantly make sure the salesmen in the showrooms know what they are. I spoke to another dealer this afternoon and he was clueless as well.

[o00scorpion00o]

My quote for £213 was just for the car. I dread to think what it'l be for the car and battery. I was really keen on it before I found out all of the above problems. You can buy a vw UP for only a £1000 more and that's a proper car, that does roughly 70mpg

My quote of 854 Euro's was just for the car also, I think they just gave me that quote to get rid of me off the phone!

As for the VW up, I wouldn't trust the 70 mpg claims, generally cars get much less!

[lee]

had quick look on the french site. It looks as though its £1000 cheaper in france. Why do we in the uk always get screwed

[lee]

is there anything else out there for approx the same price thats electric I'm going off the twizy big time. I sold a lovely morris 1000 convertible this morning to make room in the garage for the twizy. A big mistake

[o00scorpion00o]

Probably the vat ?

[o00scorpion00o]

is there anything else out there for approx the same price thats electric I'm going off the twizy big time. I sold a lovely morris 1000 convertible this morning to make room in the garage for the twizy. A big mistake

Don't give up on twizy yet. Wait until things settle down.

Electric bike would be a lot cheaper!

[Lessss]

It sounds like the best way to get a twizzy is to create a dummy corporation drive it till it stops working then walk away from the corporation.

[Matthijs]

Yeah I think Renault need to inform insurance companies and all the dealers about Twizy and all the crap people have to go through.

They did. It is all in this document. If you can translated from Dutch. I can not find an english version. In Holland the Renault dealer is insuring the battery for €9,- a month. The battery is valued around €3800,-. It is all in the document Renault made for insurence companies.
http://nivre.nl/userfiles/downloads/Fli ... kering.pdf

[o00scorpion00o]

Yeah I think Renault need to inform insurance companies and all the dealers about Twizy and all the crap people have to go through.

They did. It is all in this document. If you can translated from Dutch. I can not find an english version. In Holland the Renault dealer is insuring the battery for €9,- a month. The battery is valued around €3800,-. It is all in the document Renault made for insurence companies.
http://nivre.nl/userfiles/downloads/Fli ... kering.pdf

They obviously didn't get that document here then!

[lee]

I got a phone call from the renault dealer telling me the battery is worth £8k!!!! i.e. that means I've got to insure it for that. Renault insurance wanted nearly £700 Its bloody madness.
The problem with insuring a second car is you lose all your no claims discount because they won't transfer it.

[o00scorpion00o]

I got a phone call from the renault dealer telling me the battery is worth £8k!!!! i.e. that means I've got to insure it for that. Renault insurance wanted nearly £700 Its bloody madness.
The problem with insuring a second car is you lose all your no claims discount because they won't transfer it.

8K pounds ? holy crap they got to be kidding. So you lease their battery and have to insure their battery ? No thanks Renault.

That's pretty close to the 845 euro's I got quoted, Thanks Renault, but I'll stick to my electric bike with 0 tax and 0 insurance and 40 mph 10 less than Twizy!

Europe is completely frocked up with everything so expensive!

[Joseph C.]

8K pounds ? holy crap they got to be kidding. So you lease their battery and have to insure their battery ? No thanks Renault.

That's pretty close to the 845 euro's I got quoted, Thanks Renault, but I'll stick to my electric bike with 0 tax and 0 insurance and 40 mph 10 less than Twizy!

Europe is completely frocked up with everything so expensive!

Would you ever think of an electric Velomobile?

[o00scorpion00o]

8K pounds ? holy crap they got to be kidding. So you lease their battery and have to insure their battery ? No thanks Renault.

That's pretty close to the 845 euro's I got quoted, Thanks Renault, but I'll stick to my electric bike with 0 tax and 0 insurance and 40 mph 10 less than Twizy!

Europe is completely frocked up with everything so expensive!

Would you ever think of an electric Velomobile?

Hi Joseph.

I've never really thought about it, I bet they are expensive enough ?

I bet it would be far more efficient than a bicycle, the mac would accelerate pretty fast in that! It would greatly improve aerodynamics. I like the ones where you are enclosed because of our horrible weather.

I was just thinking on how I was being blown around yesterday in the wind, it's a huge issue here of course and the Velomobile looks the job.

I don't think I would feel safe on our broken narrow roads ? and of course we have no cycle lanes.

How easy are they to cycle I wonder ?

[lee]

just went onto the renault site and the option of going onto 'live assistance'. Thought i might ask about the battery value. Anyway you've probably guessed what happened. Correct NOTHING!

[lee]

IT SEEMS TO ME THAT RENAULT HAVE A DECENT IDEA, IE THE TWIZY, IN BETWEEN A ROCK OF INCOMPETENCE AND A HARD PLACE OF FULL OF KNOWLEDGELESS MORONS

[lee]

If they are this bad BEFORE they've got your money what happens afterwards!!

[Joseph C.]

Hi Joseph.

I've never really thought about it, I bet they are expensive enough ?

I bet it would be far more efficient than a bicycle, the mac would accelerate pretty fast in that! It would greatly improve aerodynamics. I like the ones where you are enclosed because of our horrible weather.

I was just thinking on how I was being blown around yesterday in the wind, it's a huge issue here of course and the Velomobile looks the job.

I don't think I would feel safe on our broken narrow roads ? and of course we have no cycle lanes.

How easy are they to cycle I wonder ?

You're asking the wrong person but I would imagine that a trike is much easier to cycle than a bicycle.

The advantage of a Velomobile is that they are naturally very fast. It wouldn't look out of place to be doing 60 plus kilometres per hour (well it probably would but you could explain it to a guard). One guy on this forum built his for under 4k using an electrified recumbent trike. It would be very hard not to notice one. Using a flag with lights the only people you would have to worry about would be sociopaths.

[Dingo2024]

maybe this could be another option in the UK.....(I have no connection nor experience of the company)

http://www.elecscoot.co.uk/products.php?type=car

no lease etc. mentioned in the pricing and apparently available now?

Ian

[Joseph C.]

maybe this could be another option in the UK.....(I have no connection nor experience of the company)

http://www.elecscoot.co.uk/products.php?type=car

no lease etc. mentioned in the pricing and apparently available now?

Ian

They're expensive enough for what may well be dodgy Chinese engineering. Plus all the pictures are of left-hand drive models. I like their 300 mile van for 23,500 sterling. The 300 mile three-wheeler for 15k though would fall over going around corners.

Nevertheless, it still is back to quality. Are they any good?

Good find Dingo.

[Matthijs]

The battery must be around £3000,- with a 10% per year write off like in the Dutch document. Renault must have an english version of this document somewhere. I hope I can find it or someone can try to call the UK importer for more information. How is it possible that the Dutch are ahead on this stuff?

[lee]

I was told by a renault dealership to insure the battery for £8k. Now admittedly they are totally incompetent and 99% of what I have been told to date by them is inaccurate BUT does anyone out there actually know what a battery is valued at. It's unbelievable that the information isn't on the website or in a brochure given that it's the buyers responsibility to insure it.

[lee]

just spoke to customer relations manager on 08000723372 (under contacts on renault.co.uk) She didn't know cost of battery, but she had sit in a Twizy and was hoping to go for test drive in the near future. She said she would hopefully get back to me tomorrow or tuesday at the latest because monday was a bank holiday! I'll keep you posted

[wojtek]

i have been driving twizy few months back, the weaker version in the hall [inside]

great experience i must say! one nice thing about it is, that you have quite powerful e-vehile that is completely road legal with insurance and all [if you go for the more powerful one]. or people living in "police countries", that is important

it is very nice refined vehicles, fun to drive.

But forget the passenger seat- good for small person for 10 minutes...
however perfect to commute to work everyday.

im planning to test it on road next week!

[lee]

the cheapest insurance i can find for the Twizy is £597 with Renault insurance. Mainly because all of my no claims is being used on my main car. Its a bloody lot of money for a cheap electric contraption. Why is it insurance group 10 anyway? The vw UP is group one. I thought the world was trying to encourage us all to go green.

[Lebowski]

I've seen 2 Twizies in the wild now in the last 3 days seem to be doing well here