NoName5004 on Grin's simultor?

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NoName5004 on Grin's simultor?

Postby nicobie » Wed Jun 06, 2012 12:49 pm

On Justin's simulator at the bottom of the motor list he has added a "NoName5004".

I wonder what moter this is. It looks like it might be the strongest tested.
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Re: NoName5004 on Grin's simultor?

Postby neptronix » Wed Jun 06, 2012 12:54 pm

Cromotor hubzilla...

But the simulation data is not 100% ..
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Re: NoName5004 on Grin's simultor?

Postby ohzee » Wed Jun 06, 2012 12:58 pm

great wondered that as well.

he does not have a 5404 listed there does he ? Just use the 5304 and hope for the best ?
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Re: NoName5004 on Grin's simultor?

Postby nicobie » Wed Jun 06, 2012 6:08 pm

neptronix wrote:Cromotor hubzilla...

But the simulation data is not 100% ..




And just how in the hell do you know that?

How many Cro-motors have you tested? U are getting irritating with your constant opinions about shit you know nothing about.

I will pay attention to what YOU have tested AND built. Mostly you just regurgitate other opinions. I will think more of you if you can get your Big motor to work.

:mrgreen:
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Re: NoName5004 on Grin's simultor?

Postby neptronix » Wed Jun 06, 2012 7:36 pm

And just how in the hell do you know that?

How many Cro-motors have you tested? U are getting irritating with your constant opinions about shit you know nothing about.

I will pay attention to what YOU have tested AND built. Mostly you just regurgitate other opinions. I will think more of you if you can get your Big motor to work.


http://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=35924&p=590522&hilit=ebikes.ca+cromotor#p590522

Read the post. That's straight out of zombiess's mouth.
But thanks for trying to ding me based on 0 evidence of whether i am right or wrong.
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Re: NoName5004 on Grin's simultor?

Postby neptronix » Wed Jun 06, 2012 7:42 pm

Why have i made so many enemies who want to trash talk me on this forum when i am only trying to be helpful?

No comment, no acknowledgement when i am right... ultra hard trash talk if i am ever suspected of being wrong ( even if i admit it and say thanks for correcting me if i actually am, then proceed to never repeat what i said ).

It's happened in the last few days.. maybe you guys are getting tired of hearing from me and i should go somewhere else.
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Re: NoName5004 on Grin's simultor?

Postby ohzee » Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:39 pm

I had typed up a response to reference the thread where Justin was wanting a cro-motor to test from Zombie or at least
others wanted him to get one and how Justin put the limited info in there he could so people could reference.
Then I just assumed I was misreading friendly banter and let it go.

Guess not , but yea I enjoy your posts.
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Re: NoName5004 on Grin's simultor?

Postby gensem » Wed Jun 06, 2012 11:26 pm

nicobie wrote:
neptronix wrote:Cromotor hubzilla...

But the simulation data is not 100% ..




And just how in the hell do you know that?

How many Cro-motors have you tested? U are getting irritating with your constant opinions about shit you know nothing about.

I will pay attention to what YOU have tested AND built. Mostly you just regurgitate other opinions. I will think more of you if you can get your Big motor to work.

:mrgreen:


You made an ass of you on that one nicobie... Justin asked for cromotor data alot of times before adding it to the simulator.
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Re: NoName5004 on Grin's simultor?

Postby zombiess » Thu Jun 07, 2012 1:31 am

gensem wrote:
nicobie wrote:
neptronix wrote:Cromotor hubzilla...

But the simulation data is not 100% ..




And just how in the hell do you know that?

How many Cro-motors have you tested? U are getting irritating with your constant opinions about shit you know nothing about.

I will pay attention to what YOU have tested AND built. Mostly you just regurgitate other opinions. I will think more of you if you can get your Big motor to work.

:mrgreen:


You made an ass of you on that one nicobie... Justin asked for cromotor data alot of times before adding it to the simulator.


No, he didn't ask me for one. I offered to let him borrow one to test but he said he was familiar enough with motors he could get a good simulation without me lending one to him. He did a preliminary sim and then asked me to collect some more precise data points for him which I did. He just has not gotten around to updating his simulator with the new data points I supplied him.
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Re: NoName5004 on Grin's simultor?

Postby bigmoose » Thu Jun 07, 2012 6:38 am

nept, I don't have issue with your posts, and I like how your yellow avatar stands out!
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Re: NoName5004 on Grin's simultor?

Postby zappy » Thu Jun 07, 2012 8:35 am

What exact test info would people like to know?

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Re: NoName5004 on Grin's simultor?

Postby sflorlando » Thu Jun 07, 2012 8:44 am

Yes I agree, not sure why the spark of anger on a persons opinion.
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Re: NoName5004 on Grin's simultor?

Postby Ratking » Thu Jun 07, 2012 8:58 am

neptronix wrote:Why have i made so many enemies who want to trash talk me on this forum when i am only trying to be helpful?

No comment, no acknowledgement when i am right... ultra hard trash talk if i am ever suspected of being wrong ( even if i admit it and say thanks for correcting me if i actually am, then proceed to never repeat what i said ).

It's happened in the last few days.. maybe you guys are getting tired of hearing from me and i should go somewhere else.


Maybe because you are realistic about the limitations of the hardware that we use. Some people(me included, have learned the hard way too many times) only want to hear what they want to hear. You give them a straight out answer, the forum needs that. Go nep :)
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Re: NoName5004 on Grin's simultor?

Postby deVries » Thu Jun 07, 2012 4:05 pm

neptronix wrote:Why have i made so many enemies who want to trash talk me on this forum when i am only trying to be helpful?

No comment, no acknowledgement when i am right... ultra hard trash talk if i am ever suspected of being wrong ( even if i admit it and say thanks for correcting me if i actually am, then proceed to never repeat what i said ).

It's happened in the last few days.. maybe you guys are getting tired of hearing from me and i should go somewhere else.


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You have been extremely helpful to me, and, especially, when we've discussed some tech-talk by PM too. This has proven to me you're an expert about many things ebike related. I'm damn glad you post on ES, so don't let any irritants distract you from doing just that.

Thanks be for your active participation & helpful attitude. :D
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Re: NoName5004 on Grin's simultor?

Postby neptronix » Thu Jun 07, 2012 4:40 pm

Thanks for your words of consolation, guys. I really appreciate it and have cooled off since.

I'll stick around. Guess i learned my lesson about trying to be helpful to nicobie :lol:
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Re: NoName5004 on Grin's simultor?

Postby Kin » Thu Jun 07, 2012 9:16 pm

neptronix wrote:I'll stick around.


Pika! I'm glad. Never noticed the pikachu avatar though :D. Might be spending some money on an icharger (see the bottom of my sig), and keep hearing your words. CANT DECIDE. $$ :/.
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Re: NoName5004 on Grin's simultor?

Postby nicobie » Fri Jun 08, 2012 1:03 pm

neptronix wrote: Guess i learned my lesson about trying to be helpful to nicobie :lol:


:?:

That will be the day.... :mrgreen:
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Re: NoName5004 on Grin's simultor?

Postby neptronix » Fri Jun 08, 2012 1:37 pm

Wow, i guess you really are a certified dickbag.

Today is that day. You're not only on ignore, but a browser plugin-aided ignore as well. You'll never have to worry about me chiming in on your posts with helpful information again, or even knowing that you exist anymore really.

Adios.
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Re: NoName5004 on Grin's simultor?

Postby nicobie » Fri Jun 08, 2012 7:17 pm

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Re: NoName5004 on Grin's simultor?

Postby nicobie » Fri Jun 08, 2012 7:21 pm

Thank you.

All you seem to do is regurgitate what others say and call it truth when you haven't the faintest idea if what they type is the truth or not.

Maybe if you had new and tested stuff to offer I might listen to your "opinions" a bit more.

You seem to be just another rank newb with a bunch of un-substantiated opinions, posted over and over and over and over again. :P Did I say over and over?

I think you need to let us know your sources when you post your "opinions" and not just sprew your usual silly bloviated crap. :roll:
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Re: NoName5004 on Grin's simultor?

Postby Kin » Fri Jun 08, 2012 8:19 pm

Edit: I just wanted to speak up that you look incredibly foolish, nicobie.
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Re: NoName5004 on Grin's simultor?

Postby Stevil_Knevil » Sat Jun 09, 2012 4:20 am

Hmm, if I were trouble-shooting this problem..

..I would suggest a poor connection :lol:

Just to stir the pot, I think NoName 5004 refers to a recent C-lyte product :twisted:
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Re: NoName5004 on Grin's simultor?

Postby neptronix » Sat Jun 09, 2012 11:48 am

I believe it is you making the noise you speak of, Steve :P
Serious, or just trolling? i can't tell, but i'll prove my point anyways.

http://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=35924&p=554341&hilit=NoName5004#p554341

justin_le wrote:
zombiess wrote:Justin has the info so it's up to him if he wants to add it.


Hey guys, so based on the parameter data provided by Zombiess and others, there's a new motor on the simulator called "NoName5004" (50mm wide by 4 turns). We'll leave it as 'noname' until I actually have a chance to do an independent physical testing, but a lot of assumptions are pretty safe bets (like doubling the stator width will double the heat capacity etc).


http://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=34929&p=570598&hilit=NoName5004#p570598

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Alan B wrote:I have been looking at the ebikes.ca simulator. Thanks to Justin and zombiess for putting the Cromotor's measured data in there (NoName5004). It may not be perfectly accurate, but it is really useful to get some idea of how things are going to work.


I'm not sure if Justin has gotten around to updating the simulator yet. The motor specs he put in there gave it overly optimistic performance. He and I talked by PM and I supplied him with the necessary data to update it and make it much more accurate, but last I heard from him he hasn't had the time. SWBluto's simulator has done good for me so far and is how I simulated the different scenarios I posted. I have a link to my esim file and also his simulator if you want to give it a shot. I'll try to check the bikes.ca sim tomorrow to see if Justin updated the data yet.



Now can we let this issue rest, for frag's sake?
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Re: NoName5004 on Grin's simultor?

Postby Stevil_Knevil » Sat Jun 09, 2012 1:21 pm

neptronix wrote:I believe it is you making the noise you speak of, Steve :P
Serious, or just trolling? i can't tell, but i'll prove my point anyways.


Nope, not a drive-by trolling :)

I DO remember that exchange between zombiess and justin_le. The 'poor connection' comment was metaphoric ->referencing wiring/communication. My reasoning was partly because I believe Justin's simulator would be more accurate if he had an actual CroMotor to work with in their dyno (rather than only numbers) ..but mostly wanted to defuse the tension between you and Nick.

Frak it. Let's put this thing to bed and go ride eBikes :P
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Re: NoName5004 on Grin's simultor?

Postby neptronix » Sat Jun 09, 2012 2:33 pm

Ahhhhhh, got it :lol:
Yeah, shame that the ebikes.ca simulator doesn't have the data right yet.. same goes for the crystalyte 54xx..

+1 on more riding and less bickerin' :)
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