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  1. Norton

    Marin San Rafael Euro frame-up TSDZ2 powered build

    This is a great thread ! Cool frame! Marin is a well know brand ! >Vertical drop outs on the back to handle the 'E-Power! And you can use modern a derailleur and shifter. >Still stuck with V-brakes on the back. You'll love them! >But there's nothing keeping you from running a disc on the front...
  2. Norton

    New "TSDZ2 Torque Sensor Central Motor"

    Scoot, I agree, since that stock steel 8 spd chain ring looks odd to me in the pics I've seen. As long as the spiders allow the chain line to be as inboard as possible, that would be the best choice for me too. My mtn bike is 9 and two others are 10 spd. Although, the big ebike specific...
  3. Norton

    New "TSDZ2 Torque Sensor Central Motor"

    It sounds like it has been stated that it comes with an 8spd chain ring, finally.. If you don't want to go the route of spider and 9-11 spd chainring assembly,, you could 'thin' the stock chain ring just at the chain contact area, on a lathe with a high speed sanding disc, and a little hand...
  4. Norton

    New "TSDZ2 Torque Sensor Central Motor"

    This is a very good description of the issue! A mechanical fuse ! But then what about the single speed users? And what about when TS finally makes the throttle they sell, work with the system when it is plugged into the port provided for it, now? Maybe they know that there will be SS users...
  5. Norton

    A 1982 Raleigh 10 speed with TSDZ2 mid-drive

    That headlight,, good lord... :lol: Now I understand. :shock: This is the Rat Rod equivalent of an ebike! Everything is a period piece except for the mid-drive and battery. No current tech allowed. I like it !!! :D I was going to explain modern derailleurs, again, about total T and max...
  6. Norton

    New "TSDZ2 Torque Sensor Central Motor"

    How does TS explain selling a plug in throttle that does not work? You guys need to bang on their door and say "WTH. I want this throttle to work, over?" You might like it with stock power, and not have to 'sacrifice' it for a few watts of more power. What about a 52T chain ring if you only...
  7. Norton

    A 1982 Raleigh 10 speed with TSDZ2 mid-drive

    Dearest RT, It's funny how even adults throw around the word 'evil' these days. And it's funny how Sense-A-Tive grown men can be to criticism. Buddy, I'm not picking on you. I'm concerned that you are basing a fully loaded cargo bike on an old cheap road bike. (If it was a bike you bought...
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    A 1982 Raleigh 10 speed with TSDZ2 mid-drive

    I always assumed this bike was something you had hanging from the back of your garage. Did you buy this bike brand new when you were young dumm and full of cumm? And I also assumed when you started reading about ebikes and add-on mid-drives, you pulled it down to relive your youth and have some...
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    A 1982 Raleigh 10 speed with TSDZ2 mid-drive

    Yes, I saw where you hydraulically spread your really old, low dollar in the day, stamped steel, rear horizontal dropouts to allow for the use of a modern 130mm hub. Did you make those dropouts parallel or do you just crank down the quick release and hope for the best ? Tandem Rated Wheelsets...
  10. Norton

    A 1982 Raleigh 10 speed with TSDZ2 mid-drive

    Yeah, me too. But what is the 'Ready to Ride' weight of this bike now? Those old school road rims and tires are for a Road Bike, you know? The kind where a rider stands over bumps, or hops the bike over bad ones, to lessen the impact the bike has to take. These tires and rims have a hard knock...
  11. Norton

    New "TSDZ2 Torque Sensor Central Motor"

    Man, this is great TS has someone in the USA, an English speaker, and someone with some tech knowledge, to assist with "THINGS" !! :D Like what about the throttle that comes in some of the kits and is available separately ? Please don't mess up... and encourage hacking. I still don't...
  12. Norton

    A 1982 Raleigh 10 speed with TSDZ2 mid-drive

    My trainer has a 'magnetic resistance' drive. It's variable and uses the Lenz Effect where it spins an aluminum disc between two magnet plates that move slightly in relation to each other. The aluminum and magnets get hot.] Magnets have an effect non ferrous metals. It is relatively small and...
  13. Norton

    New "TSDZ2 Torque Sensor Central Motor"

    Thanks for the great reply and the tips about shipping a battery pack alone. And the motor sticker ! And "1500Wh @ 48V" !! Wow! I want these things ! That's a B/A battery! The kWh / Power meter is good for 130 A and 60V, so they say... You could take phone pics at each shut down. Good point...
  14. Norton

    A 1982 Raleigh 10 speed with TSDZ2 mid-drive

    Bike trainer, especially one with an adjustable resistance. $30 - Craigslist. Great for winter time exercise too ! It's great how you're detailing your trouble shooting and the warranty work with the seller. It's too bad that even the 'Name Brand' stuff can go bad. It's not like you're...
  15. Norton

    New "TSDZ2 Torque Sensor Central Motor"

    OK, I'll go first! :P >Where and how much was this factory (?) 18A version of this motor and is it good to 100 RPM cadence ? >Does the xh18 allow a high MPH top speed, or did you have to change wheel diameter to 'trick' the speedo display? >Where and how much was your B/A battery Pack !?! (I...
  16. Norton

    A 1982 Raleigh 10 speed with TSDZ2 mid-drive

    OK, I will. I need to understand sentimental value and STFU with my bike snobbery. :cry: The info about Dual-Pivot and Long-Reach Calipers and fresh brake pads will improve your braking. Just upgrading the two brake calipers and pads will greatly improve your braking power and feel. Not sure...
  17. Norton

    A 1982 Raleigh 10 speed with TSDZ2 mid-drive

    OK, if you are determined to put money into making this antique more functionally modern,,, :wink: You need to open that dusty old billfold and buy 'Dual-Pivot Road Brake Calipers'. Maybe the long reach version, if you need them for the 700c wheels. You can find them used everywhere. I...
  18. Norton

    New "TSDZ2 Torque Sensor Central Motor"

    Wayne, Thanks for the comparison. I want this: But I also want a throttle. :) Also there is talk of factory 18A motor controllers ! What about noise differences? Do you have any experience with the BBSHD?
  19. Norton

    New "TSDZ2 Torque Sensor Central Motor"

    On modern derailleurs there is that 'B' adjustment that is separate from the L and H adjustments. And derailleurs have a range of cassette teeth and total teeth they are made for and there are long, medium and short cages to account for what you have for range. It gets complicated. It could be...
  20. Norton

    New "TSDZ2 Torque Sensor Central Motor"

    Sorry if I offended, but you used the word first .. :? I built all my bikes from bare frames. I have mech. disc brakes on my main rides - - An alu. FS NICE mtn bike (3x9) and a new steel gravel bike (2 x 10 complete Force group, baby!). These are the ones that will get this drive first. I...
  21. Norton

    New "TSDZ2 Torque Sensor Central Motor"

    >This is an example of why you want a Brake switches or some other power switch. A cheap broke throttle or bad ghetto wiring can make the "Runaway Motor" situation I was talking about. >>That's sad to hear. So, 500W TSDZ2 it is for me! :D Square taper cranks are old school. They should be...
  22. Norton

    New "TSDZ2 Torque Sensor Central Motor"

    ato, Sorry to hear this. There is a link up this thread to a place in Italy that sells the metal gear. I doubt they actually make it. You might find it other places. Were you using a throttle at low RPM and High Power? The idea with a mid-drive is to keep a good cadence with the pedals and...
  23. Norton

    New "TSDZ2 Torque Sensor Central Motor"

    RT, Thanks for the informative post! A lot of this info I just couldn't find looking at the vendors sites. This seems like such an advanced little mid-drive compared to the Bafang !! Just not as powerful. Looking forward to your following reports on how you like it and your new battery pack.
  24. Norton

    New "TSDZ2 Torque Sensor Central Motor"

    Guys, Isn't there an open connector on the vlcd5 display that this factory throttle plugs directly into? https://smile.amazon.com/TONGSHENG-ConhisMotor-Throttle-Mid-Drive-Conversion/dp/B072BL61TV/ref=lp_15231542011_1_3?srs=15231542011&ie=UTF8&qid=1498650977&sr=8-3 $26 (As I said earlier...
  25. Norton

    A 1982 Raleigh 10 speed with TSDZ2 mid-drive

    Good plan! What you have now is a high strung race horse from long ago. It sounds like you need a do it all sort of bike. With large volume tires. The air is a shock absorber. Alloy rims with modern brake pads are a nice improvement from 1982. But current generation bikes have disc brakes for...
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