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  1. Hyena

    Sur-Ron - New Mid drive Bike

    If you've barely used the brakes and then lock them up there should be almost no heat. Obviously what creates heat is rubbing/friction between the pads and the rotor and if the pads are clamped hard onto the rotor in the case of a lock up there's no friction there as it's transferred to the...
  2. Hyena

    Sur-Ron - New Mid drive Bike

    Cool. Though to be fair it doesn't look like the other riders were trying too hard - most he overtook were just putting around. Bummer about the key-off delayed start - getting the holeshot is where ebikes usually shine. Not eating dust and being able to see would have been a bonus too! I'd...
  3. Hyena

    Stealth FUTR owners builds and pics

    Thanks CD. I'm making it a mental health priority to make time for more rides! Thanks. I could make a video but it probably wouldn't be very exciting as I have to take it real easy. Even with the suspension set up soft it still hurts my back to ride. No jumps of high speed antics any more. But...
  4. Hyena

    Stealth FUTR owners builds and pics

    Hey guys, I've been out of action for a while with health dramas and then trying to get on with things, but I've FINALLY finished building my beta after 2 years! (this is why I had to give up building bikes for other people!) This may be my last ebike for the forseeable future, and if so...
  5. Hyena

    Coast -> throttle apply -> dead. KT72SVPRK + KT-LCD3

    I'm experiencing a similar thing after coasting and it's not the battery causing the power fade. I've tried it with a fully charged lipo pack so there's no way it can't deliver the power a small controller is asking of it. When trying to configure the motor P settings it would also cause a...
  6. Hyena

    Stealth FUTR owners builds and pics

    Nice work CD. Are you printing with ABS ? It'll be interesting to see how it holds up - it looks like that narrow section where it bolts to the mount is a weak spot, though I guess if it's solid it'd be strong enough. I use a topeak front mudguard cable tied directly to the shock mount and find...
  7. Hyena

    Stealth FUTR owners builds and pics

    Sorry I've been sick on and off for the last few months and haven't been online much. I read your PM in bed on my phone but had to wait until I was in front of a PC to look up the shipping. PM sent. Cheeko, likewise sorry for the delay in getting your frame out. It should be delivered...
  8. Hyena

    Sur-Ron - New Mid drive Bike

    +1 to post pics! I've only seen this pic on their facebook page of the blue X model. Looks like a bigger sprocket and different graphics on the battery and controller but otherwise largely unchanged.
  9. Hyena

    Sur-Ron - New Mid drive Bike

    Yeah I'd say just rebranding - can't really be illegal as car manufacturers have been doing it for years. They went to a fair length though, even putting a little carbon sticker over the speedo display so you can't see where it says surron! I'm guessing they also painted the machined face of...
  10. Hyena

    Sur-Ron - New Mid drive Bike

    The articles alternate between 1st and 3rd person when talking about Luna. LOL Obviously not openly declaring they are Luna is to hide the bias so people who stumble upon the site don't realise it's a sales platform. It's shilling 101 Yeah people who say it costs too much are clueless. Sure...
  11. Hyena

    Sur-Ron - New Mid drive Bike

    Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems electricmotorcycle.com is Luna up to their old tricks again - making a website thinly veiled as independent journalism when really it's a platform to promote their products ? There's no way the white ghost will be that sort of money. Their busted...
  12. Hyena

    Sur-Ron - New Mid drive Bike

    Yes most likely just field weakening as the others have said. It's well documented you can make a motor spin much faster with the same input voltage and current with field weakening. The rest I suspect would be as Rix said - bigger sprocket for more punch and the field weakening up that top...
  13. Hyena

    Sur-Ron - New Mid drive Bike

    Wow! That's pretty crazy. As you said it must have been transferring grit than than just the straight rubber. Who'd have thunk it in a game of scissors, paper, rock, rubber, aluminium :lol: I have a RM85L (longer wheel base with 19/16 wheelset) and the seat height is about 2" higher than the...
  14. Hyena

    Sur-Ron - New Mid drive Bike

    Wow that's super impressive. Hard to believe such a little motor rated at 3kw can handle peaks of 10x that. Especially when Artur claims he overheated an early version stock bike. Given the abuse I've hurled at mine with no issue I found that hard to believe. It must have had some shocking...
  15. Hyena

    Sur-Ron - New Mid drive Bike

    How's the colour in person ? Is it powdercoat or anodizing ? It looks fairly thin in the pics but I guess it's hard to tell. In the pedal kit tutorial video posted ages back the swing arm and main frame are a different colour which looked pretty average. As for the battery charging thing, as...
  16. Hyena

    Sur-Ron - New Mid drive Bike

    Ah crap man! Don't you hate those innocent looking silly crashes that bring you unstuck. Thumbs up for good protective gear, but as you've found it won't stop blunt force trauma! I had a good stack last year where I hit the ground so hard I got a black eye right through the padding in my full...
  17. Hyena

    Stealth FUTR owners builds and pics

    Cool! Is this part of a bigger video to follow ? I see you had a camera man, with a gimbal, so I'm guessing there could be a bigger vid to follow. Reminds of this clip I made back in the day on my old fighter, only you're the real deal and I'm a big kid playing with water pistols :lol...
  18. Hyena

    Sur-Ron - New Mid drive Bike

    These are no where near a 450 in any aspect - at least not for general use. The only place you'd keep or up is on a tight twisty track where the 450 can't get the power down. I rode my surron and a ktm 450 back to back last weekend and they're chalk and cheese. I actually prefer the surron for...
  19. Hyena

    Sur-Ron - New Mid drive Bike

    52t could be the pick of the bunch I reckon. Talking to Adam he hasn't measured the top speed with the 58t yet but he said it's quite noticeably less. It sounds like it could leave the top end a little too light on for general riding, which I don't think I could trade off. 55 instead of 65km/hr...
  20. Hyena

    Sur-Ron - New Mid drive Bike

    I thought the same fechter but I googled it and apparently there is an "air type" circuit breaker, meaning to creates a physical air gap between the contacts when the breaker is open (vs a solid state type?) https://www.elprocus.com/air-circuit-breaker-acb-working-principle-application/ Still...
  21. Hyena

    Sur-Ron - New Mid drive Bike

    I'm still not sure how this adds up. I dont know what the forks cost from fastace but I do know how much the RSTs are wholesale. And I know that what surron charges for a set of the fastace as a replacement spare part is twice the wholesale price of the RSTs... I'm not sure if this is Luna...
  22. Hyena

    Sur-Ron - New Mid drive Bike

    Wow, those were their words ? That's a nice way to treat someone who's actually benefiting them with free product marketing from your youtube vids. I suspect your next vid may not be so favorable if they don't do the right thing... But they should, surron has stood by their warranty for my...
  23. Hyena

    Sur-Ron - New Mid drive Bike

    hah funny you should say that, just before I bought the surron I was looking at big wheel SX85s or to convert to electric!
  24. Hyena

    Sur-Ron - New Mid drive Bike

    The RST is a pretty budget fork and claiming they're a premium product is a bit rich. I looked into buying these to package with the FUTR frames a few years back but ended up going with DNM, even though they were a little bit more expensive. DNM aren't the bees knees of suspension, and for the...
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