Miles said:https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-51647068
DAND214 said:Is this the first one heard of?Miles said:https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-51647068
Dan
Yes, it does. Some aspects of its use have been quite contraversial.... See: http://thecyclingsilk.blogspot.com/2014/12/inquest-into-death-of-michael-mason.htmlJohn in CR said:Does England have the legal concept of contributory negligence, where a percentage of the fault can be assigned to the respective parties, or is it all or nothing?
fwiw, there's someone in the metro area that i see from time to time, riding a slow powerchair (with no lights or reflectors) wandering around the roads, sometimes in the right direction, sometimes not, sometimes just wandering back and forth from lane to lane. usually its on metro parkway, the big oval main road around metrocenter, usually late at night, when there's just enough traffic to be a serious hazard, and when that traffic is generally people going home from work, tired from a long day, and not generally paying as much attention as they might otherwise. it's not all that well lit in some places....dogman dan said:but that knuckehead walking in the bike lane of the street, he was wearing black everything. He's so lucky it wasn't a car that hit him.
John in CR said:I hope that wasn't a forum member, traveling 10mph over the speed limit in a crowded city setting and then leaving the scene of an accident. He deserves some punishment. Does England have the legal concept of contributory negligence, where a percentage of the fault can be assigned to the respective parties, or is it all or nothing?
Pedestrians do some really stupid things, so I try to ride with extreme care while around them. The only time I've come pretty close to hitting one was a homeless person crossing while cars were stopped at a stoplight, between cars instead of at the crosswalk. I was traveling well under the legal speed limit of 25kph for that situation of me splitting traffic, which is completely legal here. When he popped out of obscurity from behind the bus or truck he was crossing in front of I had no time to stop, and only his seeing me and pulling up short prevented me from hitting him pretty hard. Hopefully he learned that vehicles can be silent, because I learned to take more care and go even slower while looking harder for evidence that something is about to pop out from being unseen (a moving shadow on the street or looking that direction while passing that blind corner for something moving faster, whether it's a runner, a bike, a moto, etc)
Yes, I found that surprising too...Punx0r said:Interesting he was cleared of riding without a licence as he seemed to be bang to rights on that one, irrespective of the impact.
And what about when you want to use it on a train or a bus ?torker said:Dan mentioned phones. They should put an a sensor so if the phone detects "any" movement the screen goes blank. You need directions, pull over.
Hillhater said:And what about when you want to use it on a train or a bus ?torker said:Dan mentioned phones. They should put an a sensor so if the phone detects "any" movement the screen goes blank. You need directions, pull over.
Punx0r said:Interesting he was cleared of riding without a licence as he seemed to be bang to rights on that one, irrespective of the impact.
Punx0r said:I imagine the difference would have been large: causing death by dangerously driving something defined as a motor vehicle is a well-defined offence that carries relatively stiff penalties, whereas there is often by such specific offence for bicycles and "dangerous cycling" penalties are relatively minor.