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Import duties to USA?

Post by LSaupe » Jul 08 2020 4:53am

Hi All:

I am new to the forum and plan on ordering a front hub conversion kit from Grin Technologies (front hub eZee kit). Has anyone in the US done this recently and have any feedback on what to expect with regard import taxes and duties? Other issues or suggestions?

Many thanks,

Larry S.
Corinth, NY

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Post by marty » Jul 08 2020 6:10pm

https://www.ebikes.ca/shop/support/shipping.html
Duties, Brokerage, and Taxes
All shipments within Canada will have applicable federal and provincial sales tax (GST, HST, and/or PST) applied to the total depending on the province.

For international shipments including to the USA, Grin does not charge any taxes or fees at the time of check out. However international shipments may be subject to local taxes or import fees. This is dependent on the nature of the shipment, the manufacturing origin of the items, the final destination and the dollar value. Unfortunately we have seen a recent increase in import tariffs on items manufactured in China that are shipping to the USA.

The duty and brokerage situation is largely out of our control. Shipments going via courier (eg FedEx) will usually have the required import paperwork handled by a 3rd party and billed to the receiver at a later date. Air mail shipments are handled differently from country to country depending on the national postal service.
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Re: Import duties to USA?

Post by aroundqube » Jul 08 2020 6:19pm

Some credit cards or banks charge a big fee for foreign transactions. Check out the options that are available to you for no fee.

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Re: Import duties to USA?

Post by LSaupe » Jul 09 2020 7:42am

Whats on the website sounds kinda vague. Anyone have experience with this or know how to estimate? Is it a $50 endeavor a $200 endeavor, $500?

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Re: Import duties to USA?

Post by john61ct » Jul 09 2020 8:41am

I have not heard of anyone getting hit with any tariffs, much less high ones.

In practice, across the board at the individual consumer level there is little consistency so no definitive statement can be made, other than

the odds are good there will be no import duty.

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Post by marty » Jul 09 2020 11:04am

LSaupe wrote:
Jul 09 2020 7:42am
Whats on the website sounds kinda vague. Anyone have experience with this or know how to estimate? Is it a $50 endeavor a $200 endeavor, $500?
Could hire a team of accountants to try to figure this out. Most likely they would be wrong.
https://www.irs.gov/newsroom/tax-quotes

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"Taxes are what we pay for civilized society.'' — Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr., U.S. Supreme Court Justice

"The power of taxing people and their property is essential to the very existence of government.'' — James Madison, U.S. President

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“People who complain about taxes can be divided into two classes: men and women.” — Unknown

"No government can exist without taxation. This money must necessarily be levied on the people; and the grand art consists of levying so as not to oppress.'' — Frederick the Great, 18th Century Prussian king

"Like mothers, taxes are often misunderstood, but seldom forgotten.'' — Lord Bramwell, 19th Century English jurist

"The best measure of a man's honesty isn't his income tax return. It's the zero adjust on his bathroom scale.'' — Arthur C. Clarke, author

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Re: Import duties to USA?

Post by markz » Jul 09 2020 12:52pm

I wonder what the postage companies have responded to the OP's Q's
FedEx, UPS, USPS, DHL

Another deep dive into the postage delivery system
Get your credit cards ready!

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Post by marty » Jul 09 2020 1:44pm

markz wrote:
Jul 09 2020 12:52pm
I wonder what the postage companies have responded to the OP's Q's
FedEx, UPS, USPS, DHL

Another deep dive into the postage delivery system
Get your credit cards ready!
FedEx and UPS are merging. New name will be Fed Up.

Prediction for the future. Amazon will go into the shipping business.
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Post by nicobie » Jul 09 2020 2:56pm

It seems to me that it would be simple to just ASK GRIN.
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Re: Import duties to USA?

Post by john61ct » Jul 09 2020 6:51pm


marty wrote: Amazon will go into the shipping business.
Already well underway, years now, where ya been?


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Re: Import duties to USA?

Post by markz » Jul 09 2020 10:05pm

Experimental drones from a hub in a select 3M+ city is one type of shipping business, yes.
Buying vans, and tractor/trailers and airplanes is a whole nother ball game.

I need a hot dog from Doug in Shy Town.
https://www.hotdougs.com/
Watch the shipping wars pan out.

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Re: Import duties to USA?

Post by LSaupe » Jul 10 2020 6:54am

nicobie wrote:
Jul 09 2020 2:56pm
It seems to me that it would be simple to just ASK GRIN.
Yep, thats where I started, Couldnt get an answer other than see the link on their site which doesnt say much. Just looking for someone in the states that would have already been through this interaction and has feedback.

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Re: Import duties to USA?

Post by john61ct » Jul 10 2020 8:17am


markz wrote:Buying vans, and tractor/trailers and airplanes is a whole nother ball game.
Again been a long time.

All those "independent" firms hiring "independent contractor" drivers on 1099.

In a more civilised properly regulated country, these would be recognized for the Amazon subsidiaries and employees that they are.

It's just that capital here is allowed to shirk its social duties through legal loopholes.


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Post by nicobie » Jul 10 2020 2:10pm

LSaupe wrote:
Jul 10 2020 6:54am
nicobie wrote:
Jul 09 2020 2:56pm
It seems to me that it would be simple to just ASK GRIN.
Yep, thats where I started, Couldnt get an answer other than see the link on their site which doesnt say much. Just looking for someone in the states that would have already been through this interaction and has feedback.
I see. You can always just order what you need and if it comes with excess fees just refuse delivery.
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Post by markz » Jul 10 2020 10:30pm

john61ct wrote:
Jul 10 2020 8:17am
All those "independent" firms hiring "independent contractor" drivers on 1099.
Yea I forgot about them independent Amazonian delivery people. I hardly ever buy anything on Amazon.

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Post by marty » Jul 11 2020 7:20am

john61ct wrote:
Jul 09 2020 6:51pm
marty wrote: Amazon will go into the shipping business.
Already well underway, years now, where ya been?
What I meant was shipping companies that I could use. If I want to send something from here to there, my choices are FedEx, UPS, or USPS. Think that in the future, Amazon will join that list.
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Post by marty » Jul 11 2020 7:29am

Determining Duty Rates
https://www.cbp.gov/trade/programs-admi ... duty-rates

Good luck with that.

There are also duty rate calculators Don't know if they work?
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Re: Import duties to USA?

Post by john61ct » Jul 11 2020 11:15am


marty wrote:Amazon will join that list.
Yes likely just like AWS, which now contributes to over 70% of their profits.

But right now they don't have the delivery capacity - of atoms not bits - they need to fulfill their own promises with Prime

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Amazon begins rolling out bigger UPS and FedEx-style delivery trucks

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-amaz ... SKBN24B2EJ


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Re: Import duties to USA?

Post by markz » Jul 11 2020 7:40pm

Sales in net throwers will increase once Amazon gets their drones mainstream.

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Re: Import duties to USA?

Post by john61ct » Jul 12 2020 11:06am

probably they'll just expand the definition of terrorism

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Re: Import duties to USA?

Post by simplydata » Jul 13 2020 5:45pm

Yes, my credit card company (Bank of America) charged $31 extra fee for $1041 DIY kit. I guess 3% extra fee they have to pay also. I hope no extra TAX is waiting for me.

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Re: Import duties to USA?

Post by markz » Jul 13 2020 8:50pm

simplydata wrote:
Jul 13 2020 5:45pm
Yes, my credit card company (Bank of America) charged $31 extra fee for $1041 DIY kit. I guess 3% extra fee they have to pay also. I hope no extra TAX is waiting for me.

Young
Could be anything, maybe a currency conversion fee, any fee, cc's are famous for fee's, but you should really know 100% what that fee is for so you know about it in the future, rather then just shrug it off.

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Re: Import duties to USA?

Post by john61ct » Jul 14 2020 12:56am

Most cards charge an extra %age fee just for it being a foreign transaction.

Schwab & Fidelity don't

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