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Will your computer be able to run Win11?

Post by nicobie » Jun 26 2021 8:52pm

As usual Microsoft is clear as mud when announcing Win11. Apparently it needs a TPM chip available to your system. I don't think that this will be a problem for most. However it looks like it will take getting into the bios and turning on TPM in order to get it to run.

I wonder how many new computers that tactic will sell. :mrgreen:
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Re: Will your computer be able to run Win11?

Post by Chalo » Jun 26 2021 9:12pm

nicobie wrote:
Jun 26 2021 8:52pm
I wonder how many new computers that tactic will sell. :mrgreen:
Given how many people keep buying Apple and MS after being abused and taken for granted for decades, probably lots.
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Re: Will your computer be able to run Win11?

Post by markz » Jun 26 2021 9:19pm

Will users be able to install Windows 11 and just not activate it and W11 still be usable?

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Post by nicobie » Jun 27 2021 1:40pm

Sounds like MS will still be keeping Win10 updated for awhile even after they release win11.
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Post by DAND214 » Jun 27 2021 4:23pm

I don't know if I can run 10!
Don't care right now, worry about when I can't use what I have now.

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Post by nicobie » Jun 27 2021 4:33pm

DAND214 wrote:
Jun 27 2021 4:23pm
I don't know if I can run 10!
Don't care right now, worry about when I can't use what I have now.

Dan
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Post by markz » Jun 27 2021 5:51pm

nicobie wrote:
Jun 27 2021 1:40pm
Sounds like MS will still be keeping Win10 updated for awhile even after they release win11.
Of course W10 will be updated, probably for another 10 years. What was the updated lifespan of previous windows versions?
W8/8.1 is January 2023. The product was released to manufacturing on August 1, 2012, and generally to retail on October 26, 2012. So I was close
10yrs 3 month life span.



Windows 7 is a major release of the Windows NT operating system developed by Microsoft. It was released to manufacturing on July 22, 2009, and became generally available on October 22, 2009.
Windows 7 End of Life starts January 14, 2020
10yrs 6 months

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Post by Electroddy » Jun 30 2021 4:51am

Nope! My computers will stay on Ubuntu Linux. :bigthumb: Microsuck's spyware can :flame: :flame: :flame: :flame: :kff: :kff:
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Post by markz » Jun 30 2021 12:12pm

Until you require programs that require MS O/S.
Like many many ppl
Electroddy wrote:
Jun 30 2021 4:51am
Nope! My computers will stay on Ubuntu Linux. :bigthumb: Microsuck's spyware can :flame: :flame: :flame: :flame: :kff: :kff:

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Post by Hillhater » Jun 30 2021 11:07pm

markz wrote:
Jun 27 2021 5:51pm
nicobie wrote:
Jun 27 2021 1:40pm
Sounds like MS will still be keeping Win10 updated for awhile even after they release win11.
Of course W10 will be updated, probably for another 10 years
Do you have confirmation or a reference for that comment ?
I ask because i read that W10 will not be supported beyond 2005.
https://www.cnet.com/how-to/microsoft-t ... r-your-pc/
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Post by markz » Jul 01 2021 12:07am

Well they are probably right because the other releases are about 10 years.
Windows 10 was first released in July 2015.
And your article says
With Microsoft making the just-announced Windows 11 a free upgrade, the tech juggernaut will pull the plug on Windows 10 support on Oct. 14, 2025.
Which meets the 10 year, predictable lifespan that MS does.

For absolute confirmation, info straight from MS itself would be ideal.

Also see my previous post about W8, W7 release dates and end of support dates.
Businesses want predictability in what they buy, predictability in lifespan.
markz wrote:
Jun 27 2021 5:51pm
nicobie wrote:
Jun 27 2021 1:40pm
Sounds like MS will still be keeping Win10 updated for awhile even after they release win11.
Of course W10 will be updated, probably for another 10 years. What was the updated lifespan of previous windows versions?
W8/8.1 is January 2023. The product was released to manufacturing on August 1, 2012, and generally to retail on October 26, 2012. So I was close
10yrs 3 month life span.



Windows 7 is a major release of the Windows NT operating system developed by Microsoft. It was released to manufacturing on July 22, 2009, and became generally available on October 22, 2009.
Windows 7 End of Life starts January 14, 2020
10yrs 6 months



Hillhater wrote:
Jun 30 2021 11:07pm
markz wrote:
Jun 27 2021 5:51pm
nicobie wrote:
Jun 27 2021 1:40pm
Sounds like MS will still be keeping Win10 updated for awhile even after they release win11.
Of course W10 will be updated, probably for another 10 years
Do you have confirmation or a reference for that comment ?
I ask because i read that W10 will not be supported beyond 2005.
https://www.cnet.com/how-to/microsoft-t ... r-your-pc/
(But who can you believe these days ?)

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Post by Electroddy » Jul 02 2021 2:46am

markz wrote:
Jun 30 2021 12:12pm
Until you require programs that require MS O/S.
Like many many ppl
Electroddy wrote:
Jun 30 2021 4:51am
Nope! My computers will stay on Ubuntu Linux. :bigthumb: Microsuck's spyware can :flame: :flame: :flame: :flame: :kff: :kff:
And just what programs are those? :shock: All the documents I need open just fine in Open Office. 8) :mrgreen:
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Post by markz » Jul 02 2021 3:30pm

Have you ever converted documents to or from Open Office/MSOffice?

edit - Well I have and conversions never worked. Converted files work on simple small documents, text only or very few graphs/inserts/pictures.

Also couldn't integrate with corporations software or MS Outlook. So my business laptop had to have MS software.

I've tried Open Office, and its easy to use, Linux is easy to setup and use as well. I've tried a handful of distor's but the biggest downfall was using Steam Gaming, half my games wouldnt work using Linux because I had purchased every Steam game for Windows as thats what I was using at the time. The games I liked needed MS O/S.




Electroddy wrote:
Jul 02 2021 2:46am
markz wrote:
Jun 30 2021 12:12pm
Until you require programs that require MS O/S.
Like many many ppl
Electroddy wrote:
Jun 30 2021 4:51am
Nope! My computers will stay on Ubuntu Linux. :bigthumb: Microsuck's spyware can :flame: :flame: :flame: :flame: :kff: :kff:
And just what programs are those? :shock: All the documents I need open just fine in Open Office. 8) :mrgreen:

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Post by Humberto002 » Jul 09 2021 5:38pm

On my Windows 10 computer, there were several bugs. All I can say right now is that temporary files can't be deleted by themselves, even though it's an inbuilt feature of Windows 10. So, I had to clean it manually. Although somehow I was able to solve this problem with the help of this article. I hope in Windows 11, there will be no such bugs or problems.

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Post by ZeroEm » Jul 09 2021 7:15pm

I can upgrade don't have the traditional bios. if you do can not upgrade. I have always wanted to stay away from Microsoft but here I am.
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Post by neptronix » Jan 13 2022 9:52pm

I'm having a ball with linux mint over here and running win 7 or 10 in a VM with lots of ram to compensate.
I have a hybrid windows and linux workflow now.

I'm about to throw a second graphics card in so i can do a GPU bypass to a windows VM for my game playing purposes.

Linux Mint is blazing fast and the 3d graphics support is killer too.. i'm driving 3 huge monitors on an intel integrated GPU and can still do 3d modeling:
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If win11 pisses you off, consider trying a gradual switch like i do, where you run your windows stuff in a VM while you find native linux software and learn to use it - some of it is quite good these days, especially blender ( a real 3d modeling, animation, and video editing program ) and virtualbox ( super low latency audio and fast video these days ) :shock:

I am slowly integrating Linux into my web development and systems administration workflow. It is so much faster and less buggy to work with linux from linux ;).. and also, linus torvalds doesn't get to reboot my computer whenever he feels like it and interrupt my work, so that's a giant plus. :mrgreen:
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Post by nicobie » Jan 14 2022 3:32pm

I hope you already have that 2nd video card. The prices for new ones is bordering on criminal. :shock:
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Post by calab » Jan 14 2022 7:22pm

Every time I come across this thread it reminds me that I need to install linux on three of my slow 7200 rpm hard drives used to safeguard against the main hard drive. I turn pc off unplug main hard drive and plug in shady hard drives. Do computer viruses live in ram or cpu?

Nicpboe is that because of mining or because people are playing games?
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I hope you already have that 2nd video card. The prices for new ones is bordering on criminal. :shock:

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Post by Chalo » Jan 15 2022 1:19am

nicobie wrote:
Jan 14 2022 3:32pm
I hope you already have that 2nd video card. The prices for new ones is bordering on criminal. :shock:
The application driving the price of new graphics cards also borders on criminal. That is, if you think Ponzi schemes are criminal.
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Post by calab » Jan 15 2022 1:27am

All I read on it was that people are buying complete computer systems for the graphics card then selling the computer without the gpu or a lesser gpu no longer needed. Its taking more and more startup capital for a proper R.O.I. with crypto mining. Linux Mint is pretty cool I like it a lot the base install doesnt have virtual machine.

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Post by neptronix » Jan 17 2022 12:54pm

calab wrote:
Jan 15 2022 1:27am
All I read on it was that people are buying complete computer systems for the graphics card then selling the computer without the gpu or a lesser gpu no longer needed. Its taking more and more startup capital for a proper R.O.I. with crypto mining. Linux Mint is pretty cool I like it a lot the base install doesnt have virtual machine.
Crypto mining currently has majority control by one company in China, and the big boys use customized hardware to game the system that me and you don't have access to.

Some cryptos exist that are designed to defeat these kinds of unfair advantages, but these cryptocurrencies are not popular.
I mine these currencies anyway as a bet to see if one might win in the long run, with about 28 CPUs.

Linux offers me about ~20% better performance in crypto mining. It was how linux got installed on every spare machine i have in the office.
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