SunCoaster
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http://www.katu.com/news/national/Airlines-stop-accepting-rechargeable-battery-shipments-294835851.html
More Airlines Stopping LiPo / rechargeable battery shipments
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dogman dan
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I'd settle for more places with US, or EU based warehouses, as Hobby King has done. Then the small order ships by ground.
More places that assemble cells into packs In the USA (like allcell) would be nice too.
More places that assemble cells into packs In the USA (like allcell) would be nice too.
Hillhater
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Read in more detail..
BUT note ....
Isnt it odd that the passenger planes ban them despite having no fires, whilst the freight companies that have lost aircraft and crew to known li battery fires , continue to accept them ! ?
Obviously the dollar is still more important than aircraft/crew safety .
BUT note ....
Isnt it odd that the passenger planes ban them despite having no fires, whilst the freight companies that have lost aircraft and crew to known li battery fires , continue to accept them ! ?
Obviously the dollar is still more important than aircraft/crew safety .
dogman dan
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Pilots don't scare so easy, and paying off 3 families is cheap.
ridethelightning
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dont like the look of this-
https://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/aircraft-makers-urge-ban-lithium-210835630.html
https://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/aircraft-makers-urge-ban-lithium-210835630.html
dogman dan
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Doesn't ban any package labeled "toys". 
wb9k
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Odd. A123 has been prohibited from shipping batteries on passenger aircraft as long as I've been with the company. I thought this was already illegal. Note that they are talking about freight shipment of Li batteries on passenger aircraft. Nobody is suggesting a ban of batteries on cargo aircraft. This is a reasonable proposal, IMO.
wb9k
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neptronix said:Oil companies are still free to ship their product that is literally designed to explode, and explodes uncontrollably in daily accidents all over the world though.
You cannot put a drum of oil or can of gas in the cargo hold of a passenger aircraft, I'm quite sure of that.
melodious
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Besides this one small quote, most of that article link focused on passenger flights.
There is already rules to how much battery one can carry on passenger flights. I'll keep it simple, one of the smallest personable EV transport devices, an miserly Eskateboard with a minimum of 200wh, aren't allowed. But that giant 20" multimedia laptop would pass through.
I'd imagine even a few several lives (cargo plane roster) vs. several hundreds (passenger plane roster) still matter in the debate. The smart companies ship batteries at storage voltage. But unless you give every inspector a "batteries for dummies" course & a multimeter, there are going to be stray packs that are fully charged that go through. And that probably frightens folks.
My hunch is that bulk batteries will be banned from the skies. Boats, trains, & trucks only.
MrDude_1
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wb9k said:neptronix said:Oil companies are still free to ship their product that is literally designed to explode, and explodes uncontrollably in daily accidents all over the world though.
You cannot put a drum of oil or can of gas in the cargo hold of a passenger aircraft, I'm quite sure of that.
Sure you can. You can also pump it into huge bladders in the wings, under the passengers feet, and anywhere else you have room...
Seriously though, you CAN ship flammable material like gasoline via air freight, but there are strict restrictions on amount, size, and packaging. Its not normally done, except for transports to remote locations.
On another on topic note.. someone should tell fedex that Hobby King box coming to my house shouldnt be on the plane its currently on.... or on second thought... no one say anything, I want my batteries faster.
It's understandable. Viewed from a safety perspective a LiCo battery is a flimsy canister of flammable solvent that contains a system for volatising it into an explosive vapour cloud and then igniting it.
Is that on a passenger plane or a dedicated freighter?
MrDude_1 said:
Is that on a passenger plane or a dedicated freighter?
danielrlee
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That's such a great description of LiCo. I'm gonna have to use that when I'm warning someone over the dangers of the chemistry.Punx0r said:
MrDude_1
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Punx0r said:
it can be on a commercial plane with passengers... but you're not going to find gasoline transport on a delta flight or anything... think more like turboprop planes where its half cargo, half passenger.
Its not illegal by law, but theres also company policies here... so nothing like what we consider a normal commercial flight will have anything like that..... besides, with the amount of crap people carry nowdays, the cargo hold is already full of passenger cargo.
