Understanding max speed of wheel

karstensson

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Hello,

I am struggling on understanding how the max speed for my hub-motor works when it's controlled by a controller with the following open source software: https://github.com/EBiCS/EBiCS_Firmware
In the firmware the current is set to 15A and max speed to 255 km/h.

Still the wheel only spins up to roughly 25 km/h, even when its spinning freely (at this time the current is 0.5A).

Any suggestions on where this limitation could be? Is it really that the motor has reached it max rpm?

It is a bafang 250 w motor
 
karstensson said:
defuzo said:
And if you supply higher voltage?

Sadly, I do not have the possibility to test that.

Or lower the supply voltage, see if the wheel spins slower (maybe by just keep it going, if you don't have any buck-boost converter..

At the road, wind-resistant increases roughly with a square-factor, of the road -speed (soo you need a battery that can spit out twice the power, just to go 50% faster).
 
karstensson said:
Hello,

I am struggling on understanding how the max speed for my hub-motor works when it's controlled by a controller with the following open source software: https://github.com/EBiCS/EBiCS_Firmware
In the firmware the current is set to 15A and max speed to 255 km/h.

Still the wheel only spins up to roughly 25 km/h, even when its spinning freely (at this time the current is 0.5A).

Any suggestions on where this limitation could be? Is it really that the motor has reached it max rpm?

It is a bafang 250 w motor
An electric motor's speed will be proportional to the voltage applied to it. The controller varies the voltage being provided to the motor, which results in the varying speeds, with full throttle being approximately battery voltage. So higher voltage, higher speed; lower voltage, lower speed. There is no limitation besides the voltage being applied. You can learn more by searching on motor kV.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHpFGPvmibM
 
Thanks for the help guys, then it seems logical that its the voltage. I will experiment with it :)
 
E-HP said:
So higher voltage, higher speed; lower voltage, lower speed. There is no limitation besides the voltage being applied. You can learn more by searching on motor kV.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHpFGPvmibM

I'd note that applies to *UNLOADED* motor only :)
Power to overcome air drag actually increases by CUBE of speed at high speed.
Therefore, to double the speed, need to increase voltage two times and current 4 times, roughly speaking.
If you install a fairing that will half aero drag, you can get away with 'merely' doubling voltage and current.
 
BalorNG said:
E-HP said:
So higher voltage, higher speed; lower voltage, lower speed. There is no limitation besides the voltage being applied. You can learn more by searching on motor kV.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHpFGPvmibM

I'd note that applies to *UNLOADED* motor only :)
Power to overcome air drag actually increases by CUBE of speed at high speed.
Therefore, to double the speed, need to increase voltage two times and current 4 times, roughly speaking.
If you install a fairing that will half aero drag, you can get away with 'merely' doubling voltage and current.

Yup, but since he asked about speed of the wheel and provided no other details, I went with answering that question rather than go through a bunch of q&a.
 
E-HP said:
BalorNG said:
E-HP said:
So higher voltage, higher speed; lower voltage, lower speed. There is no limitation besides the voltage being applied. You can learn more by searching on motor kV.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHpFGPvmibM

I'd note that applies to *UNLOADED* motor only :)
Power to overcome air drag actually increases by CUBE of speed at high speed.
Therefore, to double the speed, need to increase voltage two times and current 4 times, roughly speaking.
If you install a fairing that will half aero drag, you can get away with 'merely' doubling voltage and current.

Yup, but since he asked about speed of the wheel and provided no other details, I went with answering that question rather than go through a bunch of q&a.

I am satisfied with this answer. I now understand the concept of kV and the speed indeed increased with higher voltage. The question was also phrased for a unloaded wheel :)
 
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