nop said:Thanks Tommm...that is the 3000w... gen 2 is 5000w
I ordered my yesterday also and found out they being shipped with the 855. The 800 option at check out had not been updated on the website.999zip999 said:I just order one 5,000 Watt it just the controller is different I order the bac 800 Bluetooth controller
flat tire said:Gen2 is not 5000 watts that's just frocking bullshit.
Sure, it will do 5000 watts for an extremely short period of time and the motor will limit power (or grenade if you don't have that setup).
Gen2 motor is almost exactly the same as gen1, FYI. It just has a more reliable magnet attachment (but not that reliable ask me about my several dead cyc motors) and different case color.
It's very clear that people who buy these kits are a bunch of jokers who don't use the power.
SwampDonkey said:Damn, what failed in these motors? I thought the potting would save them. Lets see some pics!
flat tire said:SwampDonkey said:Damn, what failed in these motors? I thought the potting would save them. Lets see some pics!
Potting won't save the motors from thermal damage it mostly protects the windings from mechanical damage and to some extent conducts heat. I love the potting it is great.
I have pictures somewhere. When the motor gets hot enough the adhesive for the magnets fails and they will detach even at relatively low speed like 7-8k rpm. One of my motors exploded the magnets and locked up pretty much immediately, another ran for several seconds with a loose magnet before totally locking up (whoah) and my gen1 (with the crappy, supposed loose magnet hazard) overheated and shorted the phases but still barely spun although it was on lower RPM maybe 6k.
Interestingly, the broken magnets are really, really demagnetized. So CYC's supposed high temp magnets couldn't take whatever I gave them lol.
I keep buying spare motors because the bike is fun to ride, although of course I want more power for longer and less hassle.
Eventually I've learned that after 10 minutes of hardcore racing on <3kw I have to take a break and pour water over the motor to keep it from overheating (don't get any on the hot glass if you do this).
So yeah all those people bragging about their high power CYC X1 are jokers who don't use the damn power.
flat tire said:One of my motors exploded the magnets and locked up pretty much immediately, another ran for several seconds with a loose magnet before totally locking up (whoah) and my gen1 (with the crappy, supposed loose magnet hazard) overheated and shorted the phases but still barely spun although it was on lower RPM maybe 6k.
SwampDonkey said:I thought the new version has the mags trapped within a steel sleeve on the rotor? Seems like that would make them tough to break loose.
Tommm said:SwampDonkey said:I thought the new version has the mags trapped within a steel sleeve on the rotor? Seems like that would make them tough to break loose.
The steel sleeve one is referenced gen 1.5 by cyc. I am curious how it fares in protecting the magnets vs gen 2 (went back to glue again). Apparently they changed because it makes some noise at high rpm but I don't hear anything out of the ordinary.
larsb said:@ flat tire: I don’t get it, don’t you use temp sensor and overtemp protection? Or wasn’t that enough to keep the cycs from bursting?
999zip999 said:I used to pour beer on my hot hub motor.