Stealth Bomber now a street legal moped in Europe

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Stealth Bomber now a street legal moped in Europe

Post by ebike4healthandfitness » Jan 15 2022 3:56pm

Glad to see these high powered ebikes moving into the direction of mopeds in order to be classified as street legal.

https://evnerds.com/electric-vehicles/e ... eds-in-eu/

Would hope the Sur-ron would be next.....at least a California edition.

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Re: Stealth Bomber now a street legal moped in Europe

Post by DogDipstick » Jan 15 2022 7:27pm

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Re: Stealth Bomber now a street legal moped in Europe

Post by SlowCo » Jan 16 2022 4:54am

ebike4healthandfitness wrote:
Jan 15 2022 3:56pm
Would hope the Sur-ron would be next.
The Sur Ron Light Bee has been available as a street legal moped (L1-e vehicle) in the EU for a few years now.

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Post by ebike4healthandfitness » Jan 16 2022 6:25am

Yep, they sure have it. (Glad to see it)

A few pictures of the additional safety equipment on Sur-ron necessary for registration which allows the end user to enjoy as a higher than 750 watt street legal EV. (In California a moped configuration for Sur-ron would allow up to 2982 watts street legal operation. No pedals required for California moped configuration either).
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Re: Stealth Bomber now a street legal moped in Europe

Post by SafeDiscDancing » Jan 19 2022 11:04am

ebike4healthandfitness wrote:
Jan 16 2022 6:25am
In California a moped configuration for Sur-ron would allow up to 2982 watts street legal operation. No pedals required for California moped configuration either.
That sounds really good.

It would be "nice" if there was a Class 4 designation that fit this for ebikes that satisfied the pedal requirement but allowed for a throttle.
The 28 mph speed cap is fine.

The whole "force you to suffer" mentality of the pedelics is messed up... bring back the throttle.

My thinking is certain standards for rims, tires, brakes and overall strength need to be included in an overall specification, but hopefully it's not made too rigid.

One wise avenue would be to elect representatives of ACTUAL people into the hobby to act as a board to simply review and either give a pass or fail on ideas generated by manufacturers.

The inventions must be generated from OUTSIDE the governing body because the government consistently picks the dumbest answers over and over.

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Re: Stealth Bomber now a street legal moped in Europe

Post by banshee28 » Jan 20 2022 11:08pm

Really would consider one of these as a moped here in Florida (USA). Anyone get this type of bike registered as a moped in FL?

I know I may be able to ride it as a ebike staying under 28 mph, but think it may be safer to get registered as a moped and go 30 mph or so and keep up with traffic in a 35 zone, etc.

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Re: Stealth Bomber now a street legal moped in Europe

Post by calab » Jan 20 2022 11:25pm

There is always talk about registering ebikes and emopeds you might as well skip the hassle and just buy a motorbike and convert it unless you want to ride on multi use pathways and in parks.

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Re: Stealth Bomber now a street legal moped in Europe

Post by ebike4healthandfitness » Jan 21 2022 10:37pm

calab wrote:
Jan 20 2022 11:25pm
There is always talk about registering ebikes and emopeds you might as well skip the hassle and just buy a motorbike and convert it unless you want to ride on multi use pathways and in parks.
Mopeds often have a different registration process than motorcycles. For example, in California a moped only needs to be registered one time per owner and the license plate you get doesn't have a month on it or year sticker on it.

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Re: Stealth Bomber now a street legal moped in Europe

Post by calab » Jan 21 2022 11:07pm

This is what I am saying do what is the easiest and costs less or weigh your options but to try to get a vin on a bicycle to insure and register it takes longer. This is what you do you buy a moped or motorbike and you also have an ebike.
ebike4healthandfitness wrote:
Jan 21 2022 10:37pm
calab wrote:
Jan 20 2022 11:25pm
There is always talk about registering ebikes and emopeds you might as well skip the hassle and just buy a motorbike and convert it unless you want to ride on multi use pathways and in parks.
Mopeds often have a different registration process than motorcycles. For example, in California a moped only needs to be registered one time per owner and the license plate you get doesn't have a month on it or year sticker on it.

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Re: Stealth Bomber now a street legal moped in Europe

Post by ebike4healthandfitness » Jan 21 2022 11:14pm

calab wrote:
Jan 21 2022 11:07pm
This is what I am saying do what is the easiest and costs less or weigh your options but to try to get a vin on a bicycle to insure and register it takes longer. This is what you do you buy a moped or motorbike and you also have an ebike.
ebike4healthandfitness wrote:
Jan 21 2022 10:37pm
calab wrote:
Jan 20 2022 11:25pm
There is always talk about registering ebikes and emopeds you might as well skip the hassle and just buy a motorbike and convert it unless you want to ride on multi use pathways and in parks.
Mopeds often have a different registration process than motorcycles. For example, in California a moped only needs to be registered one time per owner and the license plate you get doesn't have a month on it or year sticker on it.
In California you just use the bicycle serial.number as the VIN and a moped does not need insurance for registration.

https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/vehicle-r ... -scooters/
You do not need insurance to register a moped, but you do need special license plates and an identification card, along with a one-time $23 registration fee.

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