markz said:https://ebikes.ca/product-info/grin-products/all-axle-hub-motor.html
mathisbl said:markz said:https://ebikes.ca/product-info/grin-products/all-axle-hub-motor.html
This is a DIRECT DRIVE front hub motor. I'm talking about GEARED hub motors.
Chalo said:Through axle isn't a standard; it's a fad.
Remember what happened to 20mm through axles? Yours are next. Regular slotted dropouts will live on, though.
mxlemming said:Chalo said:Through axle isn't a standard; it's a fad.
Remember what happened to 20mm through axles? Yours are next. Regular slotted dropouts will live on, though.
I remember what happened to 20mm through axles... They were absolutely brilliant, the only thing of any use on DH bikes and are still ubiquitous.
Chalo said:mxlemming said:Chalo said:Through axle isn't a standard; it's a fad.
Remember what happened to 20mm through axles? Yours are next. Regular slotted dropouts will live on, though.
I remember what happened to 20mm through axles... They were absolutely brilliant, the only thing of any use on DH bikes and are still ubiquitous.
Well, the components market doesn't live in the same world you imagine. My parts distributor of first resort lists two 20mm hubs (one model in stock right now) and zero 20mm axle forks.
Ubiquitous isn't the right word for that.
mxlemming said:I think you need to try a different first resort distributor.
Chalo said:mxlemming said:I think you need to try a different first resort distributor.
No, I don't. I sell and service bicycles, and my distributors have parts for bicycles. I don't need to branch out into other things, let alone things that resist attempts to service them.
mathisbl said:Why isn't there any geared hub motor updated to the thru axle standard yet? Are there any engineering complications to make it possible? Please anyone, enlighten me on the subject. I literally cannot find anything on the matter anywhere.
mathisbl said:Thank you so much for your reply! Maybe going Rohloff's way would be a great solution then. I'll look into this thanks!
qwerkus said:
mxlemming said:qwerkus said:
This is what the world needs, just 500 euro not 1500 euro. And 4x the power output. But being maxon, there's a good chance of it actually working for a few years whereas with Ali express parts I guess you roll a dice (only on my 4th BMS now...)
mxlemming said:qwerkus said:
This is what the world needs, just 500 euro not 1500 euro. And 4x the power output. But being maxon, there's a good chance of it actually working for a few years whereas with Ali express parts I guess you roll a dice (only on my 4th BMS now...)
mathisbl said:It's cool and all, but you can't buy that without going to a retrofitting dealer in Europe.
mathisbl said:mxlemming said:qwerkus said:
This is what the world needs, just 500 euro not 1500 euro. And 4x the power output. But being maxon, there's a good chance of it actually working for a few years whereas with Ali express parts I guess you roll a dice (only on my 4th BMS now...)
You want quality (i.e. Maxon) but 1500 Euro's is too much money. You pay 200 Euro's for an Aliexpress hub and you complain about the BMS breaking (20 Euro's). Hey, why don't you and start an ebike company and manufacture quality ebike hubs for everyone that never breaks for 500 Euros? Judging by the growth of this segment, you can't fail.
You should be thankful China is manufacturing inexpensive ebike hubs otherwise you would be limited to a regular push bike because you're obviously too cheap to pony up the 1500 or more for a Maxon setup.
I recall similar comments on the ISIS ("There are NO ADVANTAGES for an ISIS over a properly maintained square taper!") and the 9 and higher speed cassettes ("No one needs more than 8 speeds on any sane drivetrain - and 9 speed chains are too fragile to be viable.")Chalo said:Through axle isn't a standard; it's a fad.
JackFlorey said:I recall similar comments on the ISIS ("There are NO ADVANTAGES for an ISIS over a properly maintained square taper!")Chalo said:Through axle isn't a standard; it's a fad.
I do agree, ISIS sucked. I snapped 3 of those axles and wore the bearings out on others. As to whether they were worse than square taper... I must have rounded off 5 square taper cranksets.Chalo said:JackFlorey said:I recall similar comments on the ISIS ("There are NO ADVANTAGES for an ISIS over a properly maintained square taper!")Chalo said:Through axle isn't a standard; it's a fad.
Good example! ISIS bit the dust in a huge way, because it failed to balance the integrity of the spindle-to-crank interface against the integrity of the spindle bearings. The only folks still using it do so because both the standard itself and the design engineering are free (not because they're any good).
Now tell me how I was wrong about Campy Synchro, Scott Drop-Ins, and ISM "dick tweezer" saddles.
Manufacturers of wanker through-axles can't even settle on what diameters or widths they want to use. That's a great sign that this foolishness will fizzle out sooner or later.
manray said:mathisbl said:mxlemming said:qwerkus said:
This is what the world needs, just 500 euro not 1500 euro. And 4x the power output. But being maxon, there's a good chance of it actually working for a few years whereas with Ali express parts I guess you roll a dice (only on my 4th BMS now...)
You want quality (i.e. Maxon) but 1500 Euro's is too much money. You pay 200 Euro's for an Aliexpress hub and you complain about the BMS breaking (20 Euro's). Hey, why don't you and start an ebike company and manufacture quality ebike hubs for everyone that never breaks for 500 Euros? Judging by the growth of this segment, you can't fail.
You should be thankful China is manufacturing inexpensive ebike hubs otherwise you would be limited to a regular push bike because you're obviously too cheap to pony up the 1500 or more for a Maxon setup.