Vector bike and frame owners.

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Re: Vector bike and frame owners.

Post by Artur » Apr 15 2020 2:40pm

scrambler wrote:
Apr 15 2020 1:19pm
Great news Arthur. Below my hopes /suggestions, beyond the obvious.

Now that Neematic /UBCO has abandoned the pedal/pedal assist version you have an opportunity for something similar to their original design.

Key differentiating factor for a high power pedal assist mid drive:
  • Pinion gearbox 1.9XR for great gearing range without too many gears
  • Adjustable torque based pedal assist
  • Decently good looking design :)
Nice to have:
  • Removable battery
  • Different power modes to match local street restrictions
  • Programmable Regen on throttle
  • DC power source for lights option
  • Cell phone programmable APP
  • Gates Carbon Belt option
Looking forward to your new project.
Thank you for imput, I think this one will be more targeted for motor usage then pedaling, we will make pedaling option to be officialy a bicycle, but we will see. Pinion gearbox is expensive :) Maybe schlumpf will be better option. And we will use chain as bike will be for offroad (sand, dirt, rocks, sticks...) and will have huge torque :) In comparisson to Nematic we will have much better rear suspension design with propper progression graph.

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Re: Vector bike and frame owners.

Post by scrambler » Apr 16 2020 11:39am

Oh Well, It did not hurt to ask...

May be you can design the frame so that the Pinion could be added as an option for people willing to cover the cost :)

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Re: Vector bike and frame owners.

Post by Cuprani » Apr 16 2020 2:43pm

Artur wrote:
Apr 15 2020 4:21am
Guys we are vorking on a new frame design. It is going to be a mid drive that can work with hubmotor or 4-5k rpm motor. With linkage suspension, and removable battery. It will be designed for around 10kw power and will have right geometry. We want to make it with pedals (you can remove them if you dont need them), and bicycle seat (moto seat will be as option) to make it look as a bicycle to avoid maximum attention :) What do you think? any advises or ideas?
Number one priority should be durability and quality.
Number two, easy and cheap/affordable to produce.
This of course always is a compromise.

If you have a good base, then with options you can go nuts.
If you go for Scramblers options you would definitely have a good ebike, but no one would buy it because it is far to expensive.

I think it would be great if you could customize it completely with specs as desired.
If someone really wants a 3kwh battery, it doesn't mean they also need front suspension of $3000,- and the other way around.

The options that should be customizable according to me:
- Motor (power type)
- Battery
- Suspension options
- Paddle options
- Twist or thumb throttle
- Brake disc/handle/caliper options
- Thumb brake or button brake
- Motor seat or bicycle seat
- Motor wheel or bicycle wheel
- With or without dust protection
- With or without lights
- With or without stand
- Etc

If you could manage to make all options available in your webshop, someone can decide for him/herself to buy a complete bike, or only some of the parts.

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Re: Vector bike and frame owners.

Post by synics » Apr 19 2020 8:02pm

Bg-electric-cycle wrote:
Sep 16 2019 6:51am
This able to be flipped to lower the suspension? Also the DNM forks are they fixed at a set air pressure, or able to vary the air pressure to push the handle bars higher from the ground?

Problem is my butt slides forward at low speed.

Taken this Sunday, glad I stopped traffic police were sitting in a car couple hundred metres to the right :)

First ride with the motoseat.
799981F1-CCFA-4E6F-B5E1-78C66592B2B9.jpeg
Hey man, nice ride. You mind if I ask where you got the seat? thanks!

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Re: Vector bike and frame owners.

Post by Artur » Apr 20 2020 4:46am

synics wrote:
Apr 19 2020 8:02pm
Bg-electric-cycle wrote:
Sep 16 2019 6:51am
This able to be flipped to lower the suspension? Also the DNM forks are they fixed at a set air pressure, or able to vary the air pressure to push the handle bars higher from the ground?

Problem is my butt slides forward at low speed.

Taken this Sunday, glad I stopped traffic police were sitting in a car couple hundred metres to the right :)

First ride with the motoseat.
799981F1-CCFA-4E6F-B5E1-78C66592B2B9.jpeg
Hey man, nice ride. You mind if I ask where you got the seat? thanks!
from us, www.vectorebike.com

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Re: Vector bike and frame owners.

Post by synics » Apr 21 2020 12:15am

Artur wrote:
Apr 20 2020 4:46am
synics wrote:
Apr 19 2020 8:02pm
Bg-electric-cycle wrote:
Sep 16 2019 6:51am
This able to be flipped to lower the suspension? Also the DNM forks are they fixed at a set air pressure, or able to vary the air pressure to push the handle bars higher from the ground?

Problem is my butt slides forward at low speed.

Taken this Sunday, glad I stopped traffic police were sitting in a car couple hundred metres to the right :)

First ride with the motoseat.
799981F1-CCFA-4E6F-B5E1-78C66592B2B9.jpeg
Hey man, nice ride. You mind if I ask where you got the seat? thanks!
from us, www.vectorebike.com
Thanks man, I appreciate it! How do you like it? Is it comfortable? I'm not even sure it would fit the frame I'm getting since it's the other version chinese bomber frame. I was looking at the one CAB Motorworks sells, but their prices are ridiculous, almost $500. I could 3 Kevlar seats for my KTM for that much!

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Re: Vector bike and frame owners.

Post by Centurio » Apr 23 2020 12:07am

Hi Artur

Nice we can post our idea's / wishes here. I don't know how far is your progress with the new Typhoon frame.

But the mid drive option is really nice. Probably a QS mid drive motor might not fit, because they are kind of too width.

I see the problem with stealthy look and a power drive within the power transmission. A bike chain is too weak, but necessary to be a bike. So the rear hub might be a custom version, to be fitted with bike cassette and on the other side with a stronger and larger sprocket. To be stealthy, the drivetrain and it's large chain should be little covered.

It would be nice to use as much "off the shelf parts" as possible.
I prefere, by far, a watherproof battery box rather easy removable battery.

Best regards
Marc

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Re: Vector bike and frame owners.

Post by ScooterMan101 » Apr 23 2020 1:03am

Hey Artur ,

Any Improvements yet to your Storm Frame , like ...

1) Much more Slack Head Tube Angle . ( 60 degrees or even slacker )

2) Ability to put in batteries each ride , in the side of main frame ( not through the bottom )

3) A swing arm more like the Storm Frame, long enough for 29 er + wheels and tires .

4 ) Modular Rear Drop outs on the swing arm so a number of different types of axles can be used .

???

Here look how Banshee makes the modular axle plates on each of the swing arm on their Darkside Bike .

https://www.bansheebikes.com/darkside
My first conversion ... Sold

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=71378&p=1077497&hil ... 1#p1077497

It's 2018 already, ( now 2019 ) lets get some real , improved e-bike / e-velomobile / e-motorcycle designs .

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Re: Vector bike and frame owners.

Post by Richard F » May 03 2020 12:37pm

Are there any pros and cons to using a 240mm rear shock on the vector light frame I'm looking to buy.


thanks for any help

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Re: Vector bike and frame owners.

Post by efMX Trials Electric Freeride » May 03 2020 5:47pm

a longer rear shock will steepen the steering head angle, or a shorter rear shock will slack the steering head angle.. you can also adjust the bike geometry with a shorter or longer travel suspension fork and by wheel diameter.. example longer rear shock than typical stock length will make the steering more twitchy, nervous.. unless matched with a long travel front fork..
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Re: em3v enduro frame and a broken QS 205 AXLE

Post by Panos S » May 26 2020 4:21am

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Re: em3v enduro frame and a broken QS 205 AXLE

Post by Artur » Jun 04 2020 10:42am

Panos S wrote:
May 26 2020 4:21am
simply i want to post the same incident with a broken axle of QS 205 v3

Some photos:
https://1drv.ms/u/s!AgqMgnlMMYZjgxF5xMzy-DlXw0Jy
https://1drv.ms/u/s!AgqMgnlMMYZjgw--IGAF95JaEFcV
https://1drv.ms/u/s!AgqMgnlMMYZjgw5U2rozGKYJNh07
https://1drv.ms/u/s!AgqMgnlMMYZjgxI7-k_5QkFXb8Qf
https://1drv.ms/u/s!AgqMgnlMMYZjgxP6oLGeAxLo2ZYr
https://1drv.ms/u/s!AgqMgnlMMYZjgxDTcCKnChi7ya28
https://1drv.ms/u/s!AgqMgnlMMYZjgxXQGdq0c42TRebu

my setup is: https://1drv.ms/u/s!AgqMgnlMMYZjgw35MdY ... 8?e=YPdScg


enduro ebike frame from em3v
QS 205 v3 T3 motor (17.7 kv) ferrofluided and with hubsink heatsink
150amp upper limit from the second 72150 sabvoton with a 150amps autoreset fuse ( i burned the previous one :shock: ,
vectors 43,5 AH battery at 84v with a new BMS 300amps ( i burned the old one of 150amps :oops: :mrgreen: )
and now without any ca v3 DP ( i burned out 3 of them :x )

thanks
Panos S
may I ask why did you post it here? frime is not from Vector.

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Re: Vector bike and frame owners.

Post by Artur » Jun 04 2020 10:43am

We are working on new middrive frame guys, should be ready around September for sale.

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Re: Vector bike and frame owners.

Post by Richard F » Jun 07 2020 2:42pm

Rear shock spring and lenth choice , can anyone help choose the right spring type for the vector light frame . and dnm shock
im about 130kg and my batt pack is around 5kg . and i was thinking about a 220mm- 240mm but am not sure on the advatages on using a longer spring or will mess up my ability to adjust bike geometry witha 240mm shock
thanks for any help

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Re: Vector bike and frame owners.

Post by Artur » Jun 07 2020 3:41pm

We have shock with 850lbs spring, 220mm. Should be good for you.

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Re: Vector bike and frame owners.

Post by ScooterMan101 » Jun 14 2020 10:37am

:thumb:

For this ...
https://www.gngebike.com/gng-2019-3000w ?
and
This ... https://www.cycmotor.com/x1-pro-gen-2 ?

With rear dropouts like this ? ... https://www.bansheebikes.com/darkside

So that we can get different dropout plates for the different type of axles . 12 x 142 mm , 12 x 148 mm , etc. , as well as dropout plates for a hub motor should we want to be able to use either on the new frame .


Artur wrote:
Jun 04 2020 10:43am
We are working on new middrive frame guys, should be ready around September for sale.
My first conversion ... Sold

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=71378&p=1077497&hil ... 1#p1077497

It's 2018 already, ( now 2019 ) lets get some real , improved e-bike / e-velomobile / e-motorcycle designs .

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Re: Vector bike and frame owners.

Post by Richard F » Jun 24 2020 8:15pm

will there be any sales on this year ?, I'm looking at getting the light frame and rear shock thanks

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Re: Vector bike and frame owners.

Post by Routybouty » Jun 29 2020 2:48pm

Artur wrote:
Jun 04 2020 10:43am
We are working on new middrive frame guys, should be ready around September for sale.
Any info on this? Pedals? Rough power range? Something like Vortex or Vector?
Waiting for that perfect ebike.

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Re: Vector bike and frame owners.

Post by Richard F » Jul 27 2020 4:19pm

Hi does anyone know what tool i need to remove bb from the vector light frame ? is it a 20 tooth spline?

edit ....
yes it is a 20 tooth spline just in case anyone was looking to remove bb I instaled a through axel i really dislike the square tamper always come lose on me
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Re: Vector bike and frame owners.

Post by Richard F » Aug 13 2020 10:58am

I need some help choosing a hub motor for the vector light frame on the website it says 135 dropouts but some pics say up to 150mm
I would be grateful for any help
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Re: Vector bike and frame owners.

Post by Richard F » Aug 22 2020 5:04pm

looks different from the pics at vector im not keen with the text on the frame . i removed panels from the inside to the outside so no big deal :}
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Re: Vector bike and frame owners.

Post by DasDouble » Aug 25 2020 3:40pm

Richard F wrote:
Aug 13 2020 10:58am
I need some help choosing a hub motor for the vector light frame on the website it says 135 dropouts but some pics say up to 150mm
I would be grateful for any help
afaik you can use the QS 205 V3 hub motor easily. The dropout width is only for the different rim / wheel sizes. In case you want to have a fat bike tire or not for example.
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Re: Vector bike and frame owners.

Post by Richard F » Aug 25 2020 7:07pm

thanks , i was looking at the 205 , but i found a mxus 3k in 24" rim for a good price should be more than enough power for my needs
thanks for the reply :}

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Re: Vector bike and frame owners.

Post by Malice » Aug 28 2020 12:57pm

Richard F wrote:
Aug 22 2020 5:04pm
looks different from the pics at vector im not keen with the text on the frame . i removed panels from the inside to the outside so no big deal :}
I wanted to buy a frame from eleeks site but I can't find any info on them are they legit and sorry if I sent this to you already I'm new to this forum

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Re: Vector bike and frame owners.

Post by DasDouble » Aug 30 2020 3:33am

Malice wrote:
Aug 28 2020 12:57pm
Richard F wrote:
Aug 22 2020 5:04pm
looks different from the pics at vector im not keen with the text on the frame . i removed panels from the inside to the outside so no big deal :}
I wanted to buy a frame from eleeks site but I can't find any info on them are they legit and sorry if I sent this to you already I'm new to this forum
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