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This looks interesting but at what cost? And why is it only going to work on next gen... https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2022/01/220104095611.htm
Hardergamer said:This looks interesting but at what cost? And why is it only going to work on next gen... https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2022/01/220104095611.htm
Which sounds a lot like charging a cell ?.?.The idea for the study was born when Cui speculated that applying a voltage to a battery's cathode and anode could make an isolated island of lithium physically move between the electrodes -- a process his team has now confirmed with their experiments.
.Kilowatt Labs announced successful development of its solid-state supercap cell prototype. The prototype has an energy density of 450Wh/kg, and can be formed into any shape and operate as supercap storage.
This is the next generation approach towards energy storage – structural storage in which there are no embedded batteries, rather the material itself is the energy storage device. For example, in a car, its body is the energy storage with the electrical storage is provided by the layers of supercap and composite materials. The concept of structural storage was first developed by the US military in the mid-2000s using carbon fiber for the cell’s electrodes, but is now gaining increasing attention in research and industry as the shift to electrification in every aspect of life gathers pace and the size and weight of batteries becomes an impediment to this progress.
Our idea is to develop the solid state supercap as a sheet, similar to a carbon fibre sheet. The supercap sheet can then be cut into different forms – for example the body of a vehicle or the body of a phone, all made entirely of the supercap, which would significantly enhance storage capacity. The design is now being tested, with the Company targeting completion and launch of a product within the next 6 months. The Company is confident that this development will be a defining moment in energy storage.
Ianhill said:Ive been skeptical on the break through scene for years take everything with a pinch of salt till something is proven all known faults highlighted.
That would be awesome. I've just heard that far too many times before.neptronix said:I know most people have, but i think some of those '5 year promises' are about to actually become true.
LFP, will always be in a lower (performance ) group for mobile applications, compared to other cobalt based formulas,.... which are also constantly being improved....EG, Solid state.JackFlorey said:I am convinced that better LFP's will be the next big breakthrough in EV's, as their performance improves. It will mean cheaper cars with longer-lived batteries.
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(And of course we get them after they are finished with EV service.)
Yep.Hillhater said:LFP, will always be in a lower (performance ) group for mobile applications, compared to other cobalt based formulas,.... which are also constantly being improved...
Hmm ? That right there could be a major issue, and would have to improve by orders of magnitude for realistic applications.JackFlorey said:........
Their specs are underwhelming. Max charge/discharge rate of C/3, energy density of 210 wh/kg.
That is not what the article says.....speedmd said:GM is public with investment in four new battery plants. 7 billion dollar investment.
https://www.newsbreak.com/news/2495508022913/gm-announces-massive-multi-billion-dollar-investment-in-america
Lots more details in the local news. The new joint venture cell mfg plant looks to be the smaller part of the investment @ 3 billion. Certainly great news for the factory towns getting the new lines installed in the ev - battery pack assembly fields. Word on the street is that the Bolt is done.Hillhater said:That is not what the article says.....speedmd said:GM is public with investment in four new battery plants. 7 billion dollar investment.
https://www.newsbreak.com/news/2495508022913/gm-announces-massive-multi-billion-dollar-investment-in-america
One new battery plant (partnered with LG).. and upgrades / conversions for 3 other existing plants !
...and likely the end for the Bolt !
"One new battery plant (partnered with LG)"
C4V is back in the news with the LiSER tech that claims no cobalt or nickel. High energy density. https://www.financialexpress.com/express-mobility/c4v-introduces-liser-battery-technology-in-india/2427648/kdog said:Aus/us co-lab is trying to get a new battery off the ground. Source: the driven.nz
"Magnis Energy Technologies and its US partner Charge CCCV (C4V) announced to the ASX on Friday morning its Extra Fast Charge technology managed to get a battery up to 85 per cent in just six minutes"
Normal energy density cells, but goes on to say that the ultra fast charger is not associated with premature degradation of the battery.
Going to need a hefty charger @ ~8c charging