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    Dave's 80:1 RC mid drive kit build log

    I like spending my money wisely and not on show off bling bits for the sake of it as it’s like an expensive piece of jewellery , shiny when new my delicate as F_k and overkill for the purpose … all the machining cannot be cheap ? I like spending my money where its needed to last long and not...
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    Dave's 80:1 RC mid drive kit build log

    Remi why would you switch to the tangent from the c3000w as they are both 6kw capable but the c3000w is a lot quieter and a lot cheaper ! I was reading this thread here: https://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=83578 where the dude did built 15 ebikes and did opposite swap as the...
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    Tangent inner-drive chainring replacement/BCD

    So your 6kw tangent lasted only 500 miles and you're still immensely happy ? That sounds like a design fail to me or cost cutting, or maybe that's how they get such low weight using aluminium chainrings...? I guess long life or reliabilty is not on their priorities :) You would think even...
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    new cyclone 3000 w mid-drive kit?

    For those people experiencing plastic gears failures maybe look into upgrading to the AFT carbon fibre gears, saw pics of them here http://www.aft-ebike.com/c3000w.html They would be a lot stronger then the nylon factory gears??? especially important if you use your bike in the middle of the...
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    new cyclone 3000 w mid-drive kit?

    Ahh maybe that corrosion on the rotor is why AFT upgraded c3000 motor have sprayed the inards with something and silicon the covers on ? So these motors aren't as waterproof in stock form as cyclone makes them out to be ??
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    Mid-Drive Selections for Quality!!!

    Not having problems with Bafang due to low demand usage doesn't mean others won't. Most telling of all to confirm why Bafang is last on the list is the fact that right now there is a global shortage of Bafang bbs nylon gears!!!! (check for yourself online...) So if that doesn't scream bad...
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    new cyclone 3000 w mid-drive kit?

    It was on ES facebook group where i read this comparison of the new Luna mini cyclone vs AFT 48v ultimate kit, not sure how to link to that just search there...
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    new cyclone 3000 w mid-drive kit?

    I was just reading on ES sphere The Luna version isn't cheap for what it includes compared to other kits, see below : Colt Jones: Ya but you guy are $1400 to $2000 luna is $700 something. And lunas already look better we'll have to see luna reliability. Like • Reply • 29 April at 22:10 Jim...
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    new cyclone 3000 w mid-drive kit?

    It looks to be a knock off version of the AFT kit without any of the strengthening mods, at 48v 3000w it's asking for trouble !! The AFT has huge cooling fins, Wipperman 7r8 chain and ACS freewheels, hardened gears and oil in the gearbox. So it should handle that power better for longer vs the...
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    Mid-Drive Selections for Quality!!!

    Any updates to this?
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    Cyclone 60 volt 3000 watt performs well

    Yeah the brackets seem weak that would explain why AFT upgraded them here : http://www.aft-ebike.com/c3000w.html But then again they run their's at 72v and higher peak power it seems, so maybe that's why they had to make them thicker ? How much lighter is this C3000w than the BBSHD ?
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    Mini Cyclone on carbon full suspension

    Elementary this is an interesting review, it's one of the first times i have seen one person try all the most popular mid drive kits: BBSHD, Tangent Astro, Mini cyclone 1680w and the new C3000w cyclone and since you have built 15 ebikes, your experience tells a lot. So after all that the best...
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    Ultimate BBSHD Grin Phase Runner FOC 3000W

    From the videos online 72v sounds a lot louder than the standard voltage bbshd thats up in the astro rpm noise territory?? Freewheel / one way clutch is the same thing they all fail and if its internal its a lot harder and more expensive to replace than an external freewheel, especially at...
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    Ultimate BBSHD Grin Phase Runner FOC 3000W

    Why would you put a metal gear wear the plastic one is ? That's the whole reason this kit is quiet ?? Also like others have mentioned putting an external controller with higher voltage makes it a lot noisier and less compact, which were its main benefits ? You might as well now just buy a...
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    Getting the most from 200w - Geared hub vs Mid drive Austral

    AS Lurkin mentioned a 200w mid drive is legal and can make better use of the low 200w power limit than a hub, and is cheaper than a 250w legal complete ebike. But if you choose a cheap mid drive you will get lots of problems and the cyclone doesn't even have proper instructions ?? So not for...
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    AFT mid drive build

    Wow! 20s and 70a? that's 80v 70amps is 5-6kw power??? I have never seen anyone run the cyclone 1680w motor at that voltage and power? That would be awesome to see if it works?, that's more peak power than an Astro 3210 and it would be interesting to see what the continuous power rating is...
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    AFT mid drive build

    Wow 8500 miles that must be one of the longest life mid drive kits I have seen on the sphere at that power level ? this is the small 1680w motor not the 3000w cyclone ? what peak power did you run ? So you changed 2 sets of planetary gears ? I wonder how many rubber belts you would have...
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    Cyclone 650w-1680W up to 60v @2100W without overheating

    The price of the AFT used to be a lot more but the AUD has dropped a like 40% vs USD last few years and i just noticed they have 20% off now! The simple cyclone kit is a cheap solution that suits occasional low power use, like others have said you get what you pay for. For higher power and...
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    DH dual motor = LR mid drive + Grin all-axle front hub

    This is the only kit I know that does not come with a controller as a matched pair. The problem if a kit doesn't come with a controller setup for the motor is that one simple problem like you have and you are at the whim of an external person who may not respond or even care at all as all he...
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    AFT or LR or GNG which is better?

    The LR kit is a prototype kit with prototype problems, if you look on the LR thread their is lots of people with small problems that need fixing, aligning brackets, grinding off or stripped bolts etc Whereas the AFT kit like the EGO and GNG v1 are complete, finished ready to bolt on with...
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    Specialized Rockhopper Pro Cyclone Build

    This is a nice custom build if you can do all the machining ?? , but If you want an off the shelf kit the EGO kit is an expensive piece of junk compared to the AFT 1680w EMAX, there was some people discussing the differences here: https://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=59063
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    new cyclone 3000 w mid-drive kit?

    Looks like AFT is working on it...http://www.aft-ebike.com/kits--pricing.html
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    Custom Giant Dh, Lightning Rods Big Block, Nuvinci N171

    Would it have been cheaper and easier then starting again going to the Big block since you already have a 48v AFT/cyclone kit to use the same 48v battery and cyclone type kit and double its power by using forced air cooling and gear hardening mods to make it handle 3kw continuous and 5kw peak ...
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    "Mad tailbone" Specialized Demo7+cyclone+active heat sink

    Ahh ok the rotor magnet degauss that's why you made your own, do you think it degauss due to heat or due to magnet force of 80 amps ? 6 degrees is the standard spot on the cyclone hall sensor board, it has a hole for 0 + 6 and -6. So I think this is electrical degrees ? I think Bill turned...
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    "Mad tailbone" Specialized Demo7+cyclone+active heat sink

    Awesome stealth build ! so much more compact and high power then other builds on here. Why did you have to change the motor magnet ring won't the stock one work at 58.8v ? Did you use any case hardening compounds ? the videos are in Russian so can't here what you are saying :P Are you sure...
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