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    Surly Big Fat Dummy with L-R Big Block Mid Drive

    Ready to return, just waiting for Mike to refund $1913.00 + return shipping cost.
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    Surly Big Fat Dummy with L-R Big Block Mid Drive

    Hi larsb, Well, unfortunately it has come to that. Weird. Anyways, thanks for your interest! All the best! Erik
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    Surly Big Fat Dummy with L-R Big Block Mid Drive

    Mike received my bike partially disassembled in two boxes on March 12, 2018. I received the bike with the LR drive installed in one box on August 2, 2018. 4 months, 22 days. LR charges - $1913.00 Bikeflights shipping - $357.40 What did I get for my $2200+? Broken motor mounts Failed...
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    Surly Big Fat Dummy with L-R Big Block Mid Drive

    I shipped everything to Mike in two separate boxes. This was done specifically to reduce the mass of each box. Two boxes also allowed for additional packing materials, etc. This approach resulted in one box weighing ~60lbs, the other ~40lbs. Mike shipped everything back in one box. I noted on...
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    Surly Big Fat Dummy with L-R Big Block Mid Drive

    Mike shipped my bike with a nonoperational speed sensor. Magnet to sensor distance +6mm Magnet face not aligned with sensor active area [list]Magnet mounted on spokes incorrectly[\list]
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    Surly Big Fat Dummy with L-R Big Block Mid Drive

    Mike shipped the bike with several loose fasteners. The primary belt shield fixing bolt was rattling around: wAQRPEQ5rU0 Motor mount fasteners were loose:
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    Surly Big Fat Dummy with L-R Big Block Mid Drive

    Mike shipped my bike with the front chain tensioner grinding on the frame. Here is a picture Mike posted of my bike in his driveway: Slightly higher res version of IMG_8807: detail crop here’s how it looked out of the box:
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    Surly Big Fat Dummy with L-R Big Block Mid Drive

    Mike shipped my bike with a defective Torque Sensor mount. As reported here (the BeamTS did not provide a stable signal due to excessive deflection of the mount under load. Here’s how it looked out of the box: Video showing excessive runout: 7pvg4Xharc0
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    Surly Big Fat Dummy with L-R Big Block Mid Drive

    Mike shipped my bike with a broken PAS sensor ring adapter hub. Here is a picture Mike posted of my bike in his driveway: Slightly higher res version of IMG_8825: detail crop: video of broken PAS ring adapter hub: KqsjWH5jE5M Here’s how it looked when I received it:
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    Surly Big Fat Dummy with L-R Big Block Mid Drive

    Mike shipped my bike with a failed output shaft bearing. Examples of the LOUD grinding noise from the bad bearing: LBjCy-N7h50 eCeflGUi5qs t_95z2DJUAk Location of the failed bearing:
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    Surly Big Fat Dummy with L-R Big Block Mid Drive

    To recap, Mike shipped my bike with broken motor mounts. First reported here. Also here. And here.
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    Surly Big Fat Dummy with L-R Big Block Mid Drive

    For reference, my notes from 8/2: Unpack notes: Front tire both beads broken all around Front tube flat Headset parts loose in box Motor Mounts fragmenting a. Material? UV stability, etc? Pedal chain run tensioner hits frame Center stand cable exit blocked Unclinched fastener/spacer stacks...
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    Surly Big Fat Dummy with L-R Big Block Mid Drive

    Here’s another example of behavior that strikes me as weird: Mike took photos that I posted to this thread, photoshopped out the loose wires, etc. then posted them to his Facebook page: FB post vs. vs. Modified my photos to make my bike look more complete/finished for his FB post. The...
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    Surly Big Fat Dummy with L-R Big Block Mid Drive

    I mentioned that this project has turned weird, here is an example: For reference, we are now 49 days after I reported the broken motor mounts. The only action Mike has taken is to remove my name from this post: …and delete mention of the fact that I sent him the 3D in this post: Deleted...
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    Surly Big Fat Dummy with L-R Big Block Mid Drive

    Hi larsb, Sorry for the late reply - I intentionally took a week away from this project. Coming back to it this morning, I was happy to see your post. I find it remarkable that you chose the word "weird" to describe this situation! It has indeed turned weird. Mike has not reached out by...
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    Surly Big Fat Dummy with L-R Big Block Mid Drive

    I was really looking forward to riding the ____ out of that thing
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    Surly Big Fat Dummy with L-R Big Block Mid Drive

    Mike, It appears that you are choosing to ignore this situation? I received the bike 8/2. Got it running on the stand 8/26 - reported the noise, motor mounts, etc. Now 10/4 and no response from you. What is your warranty policy on Defects in Materials and Workmanship?
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    Surly Big Fat Dummy with L-R Big Block Mid Drive

    I know, right? There's sooo much info here! I can think of more than a few times when I've found someone already answered after I figured it out :lol:
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    Surly Big Fat Dummy with L-R Big Block Mid Drive

    Hi larsb, You make excellent points. It's awesome how much you have been able to intuit from 5000+ miles away :) On a related note: I wanted to thank you, as I have learned a lot from your posts these many years. Best, Erik
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    Surly Big Fat Dummy with L-R Big Block Mid Drive

    + = unsafe
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    Surly Big Fat Dummy with L-R Big Block Mid Drive

    To clarify: Mike shipped it to me with the broken motor mounts. Here are pictures Mike posted of my bike in his driveway: Here's a crop from IMG_8813.jpg: This is how they looked out of the box -- L/R side views of the two mounts shown in IMG_8813.jpg:
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    Surly Big Fat Dummy with L-R Big Block Mid Drive

    Hi Ecyclist, The frame is 4130. I assume you are referring to potential frame damage due to drive torque, added weight, etc.? No problem in this case - I haven't even been able to test ride it, due to the noise, unsafe motor mounts...
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    Surly Big Fat Dummy with L-R Big Block Mid Drive

    Hi Ecyclist, I completely agree. BTW, I love your work! Beautiful battery holders, awesome drive, great stuff!
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    Surly Big Fat Dummy with L-R Big Block Mid Drive

    That would be great, thanks - I'd really like to ride this thing. Hopefully it's easier to see details with these photos, I've also added a numbered key. LMK if you need more info. 1: 2: 3: 4: 5: 6: 7: 8:
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    Surly Big Fat Dummy with L-R Big Block Mid Drive

    10-4 -- solid choice. Another thing occurred to me - I've had the best results using brake cable housing, as opposed to shift cable housing. Probably common knowledge, but JIC.... Best, Erik
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