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  1. J

    CYC X1 Stealth (NEW)

    I have the brass gears, it’s just a different pitch, but not quieter. May 5-10% more quiet, but certainly not worth the 68 upgrade
  2. J

    PaulD's lightweight mid drive development

    Has anyone successfully updated their EggRider software with the revel kit? If so any help would be much appreciated.
  3. J

    PaulD's lightweight mid drive development

    Also keep in mind, revel is designed specifically for 36v; it is much lighter and It’s not designed for 52-72v. With the cyc, the chainring assembly alone weighs close to 1 lb.
  4. J

    PaulD's lightweight mid drive development

    I have both the revel and cyc. There really isn’t an easy Way to interchange. I believe they are using the same torque sensor, but the Freewheel interface is entirely different format; different bolt patterns as well. You can’t even use the same Drive chainring as cyc uses a larger drive...
  5. J

    PaulD's lightweight mid drive development

    Paul nailed PAS and the fit and finish of the system. Every component of the system has been thoroughly thought through. Just holding the battery or spinning the custom freewheel can show the amount of detail that has went into this product. I had a few minor suggestions to the system. He...
  6. J

    PaulD's lightweight mid drive development

    The beauty of the system is it just silently sips watts as you pedal along. I have a midfat 29er Jones bike with 32 tooth gearing 11/34 cassette. I can comfortably pedal low 20s on pas assist 2 of 5. I can reach upper 20s on pas 5 or throttle. How fast are you looking to go? It makes my...
  7. J

    PaulD's lightweight mid drive development

    Hey Paul, Just pontificating here... A kids system got me thinking on small systems low torque. In addition, I was thinking about famous le Tour de France cheating where they put tiny motors in hubs for incremental gains. Let’s say you reduce torque requirements in half or a quarter; high...
  8. J

    PaulD's lightweight mid drive development

    Thanks Paul! I already put an order in(order22) can you hold off on delivering until the throttle version is ready?
  9. J

    PaulD's lightweight mid drive development

    Great news, I see there is no mention of the throttle. Is that still supported and does it use the higo/bafang plug? Thanks, Dave
  10. J

    PaulD's lightweight mid drive development

    Hey Paul! ETA?
  11. J

    Luna Cycle X-1 Enduro FS (Bafang M600 / Dengfu M09)

    I’m sold on the revel propulsion setup; I don’t want 20lbs of motor and battery. I’m looking to put the 10lb setup on a full suspension bike. I’m hoping it will be a cheaper version of the levo sl. Granted I’ll have to pedal more, but it seems it will a lot livelier than my current mid fat...
  12. J

    Luna Cycle X-1 Enduro FS (Bafang M600 / Dengfu M09)

    I don’t see much 2170 packs out on the market; you know what’s the reason for that?
  13. J

    PaulD's lightweight mid drive development

    Not to take you away from the work, One other quick question as I’m looking for a used full suspension mountain bike. What’s the front chainring 42 tooth?
  14. J

    PaulD's lightweight mid drive development

    Great news can’t wait!
  15. J

    PaulD's lightweight mid drive development

    Hey Paul! Thanks for the update! I was hoping the throttle made the cut. I mainly run pas, but it’s nice to have when trail riding to get over an obstacle/hill. The other stuff is nice to have. I’ve been there and back with the high torque high power systems. I don’t want to bike around...
  16. J

    PaulD's lightweight mid drive development

    Any update on the production run of the mid drives. Also, I’d love to hear about any of the “v2” tweaks. -Dave
  17. J

    Luna Cycle X-1 Enduro FS (Bafang M600 / Dengfu M09)

    Bout time we put the noise issue to bed. It’s sorta loud, louder than the marketing materials led us to believe. People are now aware, can we move on and talk about the other stuff.
  18. J

    Luna Cycle X-1 Enduro FS (Bafang M600 / Dengfu M09)

    It would appear Luna got a little in over their head outsourcing the bikes. Though small, there seems to be quite a few quality control issues. Not to mention the features not matching the product description. The big kicker for me is the lack of programmability(unique to only this motor)...
  19. J

    Luna Cycle X-1 Enduro FS (Bafang M600 / Dengfu M09)

    I’m not diggin the display they chose to use with this. It doesn’t appear to be enduro durable based on this video. I’d prefer no display or a low profile display like EggRider/SW-102 or 500c.
  20. J

    Luna Cycle X-1 Enduro FS (Bafang M600 / Dengfu M09)

    I’ve been there and back on the weight weenie stuff and realize it’s not worth the money. But with mountain bikes, I enjoy having less weight for jumping stuff. I replaced my son’s Bbs02 wolf pack with the wolf pup pack and it was so much more responsive cutting out those 5 extra pounds...
  21. J

    Luna Cycle X-1 Enduro FS (Bafang M600 / Dengfu M09)

    Okay, That makes more sense :thumb:
  22. J

    Luna Cycle X-1 Enduro FS (Bafang M600 / Dengfu M09)

    I was thinking about the weight of the Enduro at 56 lbs 7lb motor/ 10lb battery?. the Apollo is 60 lbs with a 15lb motor and a 12lb battery. I wonder where all the weight is on this bike. Also, If you add ludicrous and battery +820 you start approaching Apollo territory. The Apollo is...
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