Murfix said:I can't argue with how it feels to you, but I don't understand how requesting more amps would make the motor spin faster? I agree that when you put more load on 1 wheel, that motor will need more amps, but it's voltage that defines speed, not amps (edit: at least not in that way).
For my understanding, do you mean putting pressure on the outer wheel when turning? Turning radius would be shorter if the outer wheels spin faster, but that seems like an unnatural thing to do when turning. Is this what people do when surfing?
Pediglide said:You have to remember I'm talking about dual-drive REAR trucks, where the inner wheel needs to be faster than the outer wheel. On dual-drive FRONT trucks, it will not work with parallel wiring because, of course, in front trucks the outer wheel needs to be faster than the inner wheel, much like in cars.
Murfix said:I agree on how the electronic differential works, but IMO the outer wheel always spins faster than the inner wheel, front or rear.
Murfix said:That is also why I think that the electronic differential works just as well on a front drive assembly.
beetbocks said:I personally think the pneumatic tyre is the best ride of all my boards on a day to day basis ..just so super smooth..and i really want to make it available to everyone..but the costs of the wheels are so prohibitive..
beetbocks said:I agree completely with everything you say...I don't quite understand why is the range less when the wheels are thinner and offer less rolling resistance.. Weird but true.
I did vastly improve the range on my 4" wheels by getting the wheels to run true ( using a balance weight) and by increasing pressure as you say and by caring for the bearings..etc .
Interesting. Did you have to use a balance weight to compensate for the inflation tube? If so, you did you mount it directly opposite from it and did this make the wheel turn true?beetbocks said:I agree completely with everything you say...I don't quite understand why is the range less when the wheels are thinner and offer less rolling resistance.. Weird but true.
I did vastly improve the range on my 4" wheels by getting the wheels to run true ( using a balance weight) and by increasing pressure as you say and by caring for the bearings..etc .
beetbocks said:I agree completely with everything you say...I don't quite understand why is the range less when the wheels are thinner and offer less rolling resistance.. Weird but true.
I did vastly improve the range on my 4" wheels by getting the wheels to run true ( using a balance weight) and by increasing pressure as you say and by caring for the bearings..etc .
Yep that's right the valve makes quite a different.without the weights ( sticky back car tyre weights) the wheel really wobble over 1/2rpm. .. With weights there's no speed wobble .Murfix said:Interesting. Did you have to use a balance weight to compensate for the inflation tube? If so, you did you mount it directly opposite from it and did this make the wheel turn true?beetbocks said:I agree completely with everything you say...I don't quite understand why is the range less when the wheels are thinner and offer less rolling resistance.. Weird but true.
I did vastly improve the range on my 4" wheels by getting the wheels to run true ( using a balance weight) and by increasing pressure as you say and by caring for the bearings..etc .
The smaller urban deck is a thinner track width and higher angle truck , so it turned quicker but this is more stable .. It's simply the wider track creates a larger Turning radius ..drmacgyver said:beetbocks said:I agree completely with everything you say...I don't quite understand why is the range less when the wheels are thinner and offer less rolling resistance.. Weird but true.
I did vastly improve the range on my 4" wheels by getting the wheels to run true ( using a balance weight) and by increasing pressure as you say and by caring for the bearings..etc .
Do they have more traction because they the rubber has more grip, or because the inflatable squishes under the weight of a person? If they're softer than a high durometer skate wheel, maybe the rolling resistance is higher regardless of a skate wheel having larger surface area? I'm not sure how quickly they deflate, but that's something to factor in too.
Did your 1st gen urban commuter with the skate trucks have the same range as this one? Maybe the wider mbs trucks are transferring the weight differently because the wheels are further out? Possibly the weight is more on the inside of the wheels as opposed to being more overhead.
I'm totally uneducated on the physics behind it, so my theorizing may have a few holes.
drmacgyver said:Is 25 pounds just for 1 wheel hub or for 1 complete wheel?
beetbocks said:For a complete wheel which consists 1 wheel rim half , 1 wheel rim with drive and a wheel hub centre .
Andres said:I think 25 bucks is a fair price for the rims+tyre combo.Cheers
beetbocks said:...
Whilst all these parts are fine for myself ( as my time is free) to produce in any numbers I have to pay the going rate and buy in min batches of 50 to make it worth them setting the machine up .. And I just don't believe I would sell them. ..so I would be stuck with wheels I don't want or need .. U see the problem. .
I could get some plastic rims mass produced in China but that still requires a big investment in molds/ tooling ..and they would be plastic not alloy .. So either way it's a risk I'm not prepared to take .. alien is just a hobby and doesn't pay the mortgage I'm afraid my full time job does ..
I just dont have the time to run Alien,have a full time job and spend time with my family...so there no way i could organise a KS a as well...a bit of a catch 22 situation..but im stuck really...Neon22 said:beetbocks said:...
Whilst all these parts are fine for myself ( as my time is free) to produce in any numbers I have to pay the going rate and buy in min batches of 50 to make it worth them setting the machine up .. And I just don't believe I would sell them. ..so I would be stuck with wheels I don't want or need .. U see the problem. .
I could get some plastic rims mass produced in China but that still requires a big investment in molds/ tooling ..and they would be plastic not alloy .. So either way it's a risk I'm not prepared to take .. alien is just a hobby and doesn't pay the mortgage I'm afraid my full time job does ..
I hate to suggest the obvious but if you had a kickstarter - or equivalent - then you could price for a certain quantity and limit it as well if you wanted to.
So you could control costs better...
If your project looked like it wasn't going to make it - you can cancel it and this doesn't prevent you from doing it again with a smaller run.
I'm also pretty sure the UK is now on the list of approved places to run a KS from, so you don't need a US bank account...
Getting the costs down and using pnuematic tyres seems critical to this being successful. A commuter board with long range and not so extreme high speed is probably the best compormise...
I'm sure you've considered it though.