So, he posts up something that he WANTS lots of attention for (the "nuvinci gearing") and then is SURPRISED to get lots of questions and interest about it? And supposedly has had enough interest via his "resellers/OEMs" to sell thousands of them already? Yet doesn't have even a couple of hundred of them in stock? No, this is definitely not what he claims it is, nor is he the designer or maker of it. He's just another ebay idiot out for a fast buck, selling existing Chinese stuff as whatever he feels like calling it.
Thud said:
did any ine get a screenshotof the original listing?
I captured and posted the images on a previous page.
The text in the current ended listing is pasted below in three sections (I edited out a lot of ebay general stuff that would be in any ad):
(note that it CLEARLY states that the brand name of this hub is 8FUN USA, which to me indicates it is made by a company of that name (I am unaware of the existence of such a place, and google doesn't find it). It does NOT say that the hub CASING is that brand, but that the whole thing is, so he did not just buy the casing from 8FUN and then use his own guts. If he had, he would have said that in the ebay ad itself, and listed his OWN company name as the brand in the ad. Definitely a scammer.
The link to the ebay-archived original listing is here:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p4340.l2557&rt=nc&nma=true&item=270980422365&si=yYPdvBNSDBhok2BtqYVIMlWqyUY%253D&viewitem=&sspagename=ADME%3AX%3ARTQ%3AUS%3A1123&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc
48v 700 watt 26" Rear Wheel Electric Bike conversion 35 amp Nuvinci geared Motor
Item Ended
Item condition: New
Ended: May 27, 201215:08:54 PDT
Sold For: US $365.00
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Item location: Brighton, Michigan, United States
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Seller assumes all responsibility for this listing.Item number: 270980422365
Item specifics
Condition: New
Brand: 8Fun USA
Color: Silver Model: 700 watt High efficiency (HE)
Wattage: 700 watt nom. 1400 Max.
New model 8FUN HE motor with expanding Nuvinci type gearing inside the motor case. Climbs hills far better than most other motors and is regulated down from 35 amps to 27 amps for cool running durability. Never runs near its redline so the efficiency is over 92%.
---- Has disc brake mounts ! And comes with 6 speed freewheel OR can be changed to 7, 8 or 9 speed freewheel very easily. 3 year full warranty from USA manufacturer.
-----We will list the 35 amp controller separately that comes with the control panel, wiring harness, throttle, peddle assit conantrol, and sensor disc. If you buy this motor and the controller kit, you will have everything you need to convert your 26" wheel bike.
-----We also recommend using this with the Deep cycle lithium battery by BYI USA. (52 volts 15 ah)
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I dunno about any of you, but I submitted my questions via the Ebay system, so they shoudl show up there, (just like someone else's does in the batteyr listing below). I guess since he never bothered to answer me, it doesn't?
They also now have a battery listing (which wasn't there when I looked at their original two items, and posted the pics from them):
http://www.ebay.com/itm/48Volt-15AH-Limn2o4-e-bike-battery-35amp-constant-65-burst-USA-Made-/270984495951?pt=Cycling_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3f17ef434f
48Volt 15AH Limn2o4 e-bike battery 35amp constant 65 burst USA Made
Item condition: New
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Condition: New
Brand: BYI Deep Cycle Lith. USA
Model: Deep Cycle 3 Year Full Warranty
The BYI USA Lithium battery can use 95% of stored charge unlike typical Lifopo4 etc..that only use 70% because of safety shut off BMS. The usable energy is equal to a normal 48volt 20 ah Lith. Battery. -----Can easily support up to 1600 watt Motors or 2 X 800 watt motors at the same time. -----Full 3 year warranty from BYI USA Made in USA. Most E-bikes will be able to run 40--50 miles per charge. ------Special case has slide rail lock on & also under seat rail slider plus locking key bolt on locks and full power meter with analyzer built in LED console. -----Comes with HIGH speed 4 amp Charger and CELL balancer BUILT in. ---Weighs just 13 lbs.
Questions from other members : 48Volt 15AH Limn2o4 e-bike battery 35amp constant 65 burst USA Made
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Q: I live in Jackson Hole, and have no heated storage for a bike. I need a battery that I can disconnect easily and recharge indoors (knowing lithium batteries die when charged below 40 degrees). I'm especially interested in the Deep cycle lithium battery by BYI USA. (52 volts 15 ah). Will it be possible to easily remove it? Is it possible to put the battery below the top tube somehow? If it must be put on a rear rack, do I need a hard tail bike? I don't have a bike yet, can you give me some off the cuff advice? I know front shocks are pretty much mandatory for fast riding. May-28-12
A: The rack that you see in the picture works well with this battery. It slides right out very quickly but it also holds the battery firmly so it won't rattle. This rack can also be ordered on E Bay for $39.00. This rack allows you to also use the key to lock it onto the bike so it will be safe. These deep cycle batteries can be charged at 32 degrees F or above. Slides off easy to carry into the house. Deep cycle lithium can actually be used at 5 degrees F or above (charging is 32 or above). Velocity e bikes makes the whole bike already set up with this motor. If you buy a bike I recommend something with Lock out front shocks and pre load adjustable. Hardtail is much better for E bikes ! Unless your full Suspen. bike has a lockout for the Rear shock ! Get a mountain bike with disc brakes to take advantage of the disc mounts on our motors. If you don't want to go trail riding then put some 1.5" street tires on the mountain bike for speed ! (Mountain bike frames are stronger and better for making an E bike). Thanks for the great question ! Apar
I really like the bolded part.
He's just making up whatever answers the questioner needs to feel good about the purchase.