how can I stop telephone solicitation

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Seems as though it's the same companies phoning me over and over again.

This happens twice a week, and often the same people.

What's even more disturbing is the ligit companies like "the boys & girls club" asking for used clothing. They almost phone monthly, how much clothing do they think i have?

Is thier a trick to stopping this annoying behavior?
 
The company phone is a Nextel and I started getting credit card solicitations, said to press 1 to talk to an operator.
Told them this is a company phone stop calling. They usually hung up before I was finished.

Started using the same technique on my personal cell phone.

Seems to work.
 
recumbent said:
Seems as though it's the same companies phoning me over and over again.

This happens twice a week, and often the same people.

What's even more disturbing is the ligit companies like "the boys & girls club" asking for used clothing. They almost phone monthly, how much clothing do they think i have?

Is thier a trick to stopping this annoying behavior?
i used to be one of these "persons" so just get their name and id number and then politely tell them to remove you from their calling list
if they persist it will cost them 50000
btw i just noticed where your from...thats beautiful up there i've went threw there many times
 
The do not call list works I have used it and I dont get any more calls like that not just takes about a month to come into effect.
 
Thanks guys, I just registered on the DNC list, great information on the other recomendations, i'm going to do that also, awsome, thanks again.

BTW "Wasp" your weather I heard is up in the 30-C (85-F) range these last few days, we here in the Okanagan are in a "cool" wave at present, under 20-C.
Thanks for the compliment, your always welcome to visit anytime your up this way, just send me a PM bud. I'll take you out for lunch at the beach front restaurant, Salty's.
 
People will think I am kidding but for once I am not...

The little airhorns you get at pep boys or walmart work really really well when the solicitor will not be quiet enough for you to tell them not to call again.... I have a few callers who never stop, my solution turned out to be a bit more extreme than airhorn (though that will be effective) because I wanted to kick them if I wasn't home and they called...

I wrote a simple little caller id capture app in VB6 which if Unavailable, Blocked or matching a list in a database... will answer the line, spit out a fax handshake then beeps for 15 seconds then it hangs up and emails me to inform me I just kicked another problem caller. I am obviously a bit over the top and my first application over 18 years ago was a Demon Dialer so this app was right up my alley but there are off the shelf apps which could be configured to work in a similar fashion (mostly).

I am surprised to see so many people who subscribe to the DNC list... I have not had good experience with the list personally but am encouraged to see others positive results.

-Mike
 
Another trick I use is to have the phone connect to a computer with the Fax console ready. With call display, you can often recognize an unwanted call or when you answer, just say "hello" and wait. As soon as you recognize it is a solicitor, hit the Fax answer. They will note your number as a Fax line and quit calling. If you can identify a company who is calling, and they won't stop, set your computer auto dialer to call them, wait 5 seconds, hang up, and call again. After a few hours, you may get a call from the police, who I have found to be very helpful with getting the unwanted calls stopped, once they have been forced to get involved.
 
Okay... this is just hypothetical (really)...

If "bad" companies outbound lines could be enumerate (all of them I mean) then in theory a handful of normal joes with the appropriate software could in essence form a DOS (denial of service) attack against the PBX of these solicitor call centers. On average they have 5-10 available dial out lines (many more for completed calls but limited on out dials becuase the computer head end attached to the pBX can only source and hunt so many lines).

The only problem with the idea is the legality, I am not sure what such an "attack" (really a defensive strategy but..) would be viewed as under the law... and it would fall under federal law without a doubt given the use of wire and likely crossing of state lines. If it could be arranged in a legal fashion, it woudl be ultra effective because if you can shut down their operations... they will gladly remove you from their lists because your costing them time and money instead of the normal mo where they cost you time and money....

This should be black and white, you asked to be left alone, they wont now defend yourself... similar to why everyone should have a handgun, you gonna mug someone for 20.00 when it's more likely than not that they have a gun and will use it?

-Mike
 
mwkeefer said:
This should be black and white, you asked to be left alone, they wont now defend yourself... similar to why everyone should have a handgun, you gonna mug someone for 20.00 when it's more likely than not that they have a gun and will use it?

Hey a gauranteed free gun every mugging might be worth more than $20 eh? I don't think the DOS attack would fly. Probably something about bogging down the network for others or making it so they couldnt' call 911 if there was an emergency.

I usually find no thank you and please take me off your list works fine and I never here from them again. I usually get a call every couple months from some charity. Also just remember usually the folks calling aren't the ones to be mad at. It is the companies paying for them to call and the companies contracting the work to the call centers to call you and pester you.
 
evblazer said:
mwkeefer said:
This should be black and white, you asked to be left alone, they wont now defend yourself... similar to why everyone should have a handgun, you gonna mug someone for 20.00 when it's more likely than not that they have a gun and will use it?

Hey a gauranteed free gun every mugging might be worth more than $20 eh? I don't think the DOS attack would fly. Probably something about bogging down the network for others or making it so they couldnt' call 911 if there was an emergency.

I usually find no thank you and please take me off your list works fine and I never here from them again. I usually get a call every couple months from some charity. Also just remember usually the folks calling aren't the ones to be mad at. It is the companies paying for them to call and the companies contracting the work to the call centers to call you and pester you.
Yeh I have my number online for my buisness and they search it out and were able to hammer me with >10 calls a day! So the take me off your call list thing did not work for me but for now the DNC list seems great I have had 1 call in the last 4 months and I googled it and found they are a highly ilegal sceem the cops cant seem to catch who doesnt obey laws. Otherwise I am great!
 
> Hey a gauranteed free gun every mugging might be worth more than $20 eh?

Hadn't thought of that one... I'd not give the whole gun up, maybe a slug or two (too bad you can't shoot through the phone lines).

Seriously I don't mind the charity calls, they are intermittent and they do take please don't call me to heart and respect it... My issue is more with bogus credit offers, bill collectors who are looking for the person who had my home number about 5 people before me (I actually looked into it and still get mail for this person from time to time after 5 years in the same place).

You are most likely right on about the DOS... Heck, I dance around it because I know the feds could actually call this a "conspiracy" which always adds 10 years to the sentence = (_

-Mike

PS: I just checked the log from my main home line, in the past week there have been 28 calls from telemarketers, collections, solicitors, etc. Funny part, I've only given this number to 5 people... all family and none put it in their contact managers (just in case there is a virus or worm).. I guess I will try this new DNC, the next option is to just change the number again.
 
The denial of service tactic wouldn't work. Most call centers work on a PBX phone system, with dedicated DID and DOD trunks..

In english that means the phone lines going out are one way, and can't be called. The number they display usualy is their main number, or a billing number, but is unrelated to the line they are calling on. If you try to do a call back on the last call, the phone company's switch either ignores your request as invalid, or is programed to reroute that call to their main number, and never gets close to the outbound line.


When I get these calls, I either answer the phone "911, what is your emergency?" Or, if I'm board, drunk, or both, I'll agree to listen to there sales pitch if they first let me sing to them. After a few rounds of Eskimo Nell sung in a key that makes dogs howl, I listen to their pitch, interupting with no end of stupid questions, anoying puns, sleazy comments full of bad inuindo, then tell them No.
 
Ha.. phone calls..... 14 long years i've been answering phone calls for a living....... :shock:

Let's see.. 50 to 100 calls a day average, x 5 days a week x 48 weeks a year x 14 = 168,000 to 336,000 calls so far.

That many times.. " Technical Support, My name is Ypedal, how may i help you, bonjour " ....... i've heard it all. About once a month i suspect i'm being recorded on a Jerky Boys episode. un frocking real the shit i deal with. :x

It takes every fiber in my body not to freak out when i get a solicitcaion call on my home hours.... like when i have a soldering iron in hand and batteries in the other and my phone rings.. " Hello.. I'm calling on the behalf of xxxx xxxx.. may i speak with xx " aaarrrrrgggghhhhhh,...

One of these days.. i'm going postal but for their sake and because i understand it's the job nothing personal.. i just hang up.

Oh. and another thing i've discovered, being on the oposite side of the phone line, forced to be polite and helpful and sound like i have flowers shoved up my ass while being paid by the hour.. when i take a call.. and the first thing person says is " Hello, how are you ? " ... i answer " Good " . .. I used to be sucked into answering " Good.. and how are you ?".. i don't do THAT no more... :lol:

edit : sorry for the rant, it's friday and i had a rough week with 50 % of the team out sick or on vacation.. :!:
 
if you want to stick it to the seller just tell them to hold on a minute i need to answer the door/use the bathroom whatever..put the phone down and eat your dinner or finish watching the news or whatever...they work on sph sales per hour and doesn't take long to screw them out of thier bonus...when i did this a few years ago i got a base rate of 10/hour plus bonus if i made my sph it would work out to 25+/hour
 
I long ago put my number on DNC. Still, I get dozens of calls a week, or more, from various places like Home Depot, who somehow were given my number incorrectly by someone whose business line must be similar to my number.

Home Depot local stores I'd call back to tell them to take the number off because it's wrong, and sometimes they would, sometimes not. Usually they'd say they can't do that without permission of the account owner, and won't listen when I tell them that the phone number is WRONG and they're not even calling anyone associated with that account. So I tried their corporate people, and they first tell me to call the stores because they have no control over it, and when I advise them of the responses I get from the stores, they put me on eternal hold and then hang up on me. I filed an FCC complaint about it instead, for each call I got, and eventually it stopped. I guess they didn't like the fines. Periodically I get readded to their lists and file more FCC forms and they go away again.

Same thing with quite a few places. Eventually the FCC complaints make them go away, but the companies themselves won't stop until I do that. Nowadays I don't even try getting them to, I just file the FCC forms for every call that leaves a phone number (I only have a basic phone, no caller id).

But now, it's worse--I get calls for people trying to collect on various people's unpaid debts, who have for whatever reason given out my phone number in their pack of lies they've fed their bill collectors. Same thing for people who are trying to get government benefits/financial aid of various types. Usually one to several a week, though I might go a week or two wihtout one. Whenever I mention to the government people calling that there are lots of these calls by them here, they just say "yeah, we get this alot", so there are apparently quite a lot of people out there falsifying records to claim benefits they aren't entitled to. No wonder I can't get any help; it's all being stolen by those people.

I use an answering machine to screen calls, but usually I leave it (and the phone ringer) muted and just check messages and call people back later, because the incoming garbage is so frequent I can't handle listening to it anymore. Most of the calls are hangups, but sometimes there are so many calls in a day that the machine runs out of memory if I'm not here to wipe it. :roll:

I don't know why I attract all these problems, but I sure seem to do it well.



BTW, if anyone wants to do autodialing/etc themselves, I have one of those cardsets that goes in your computer to do this that I'd sell relatively cheap. :) No software or anything. Never used it, just was given it by someone else out of a defunct server. Must do some fancy stuff; it's got a pair of 486 CPUs built into it. :shock:
 
Do not call lists are useless. I'm on the Canadian DNC list but now get calls from the US or India as they can't be fined.
Now I just answer the phone and if it's not for me put it up to the speaker and start a Porn recording playing. Come back a minute later and hang up.
 
Yes, you may talk to me. the charge is $10.00 a minute, minimum 5 minutes, in advance... how would you like to pay??? Sometimes i like to have fun when its a woman solicitor[ who doesnt havethat funny accent] and she asks for mrs d... NO !! she is not alowed to use the phone this month... caller why not... me because i said so..... caller ..you cant do that... yes i can. dinner was almost 5 minutes lat ,two nights in a row..... i often get some very interesting comments
 
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