StinkyGoalieGuy
100 W
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Hey Dekes, can you measure the length from one end of the motor to the end of the freewheel? Essentially, what is the minimum required crank spacing?
new cyclone 3000 w mid-drive kit?
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lantice13
100 W
yes! a video of the drive in action would be great. I suspect the jubilee clamps is not enough to restrain the motor at 2kw and up....the mounting brackets are simple enough that simple metal tools and some thick steel plates from your local hardware store can make it stronger . I also have flex on my gng gen 2 which is very similar to this cyclone kit. the tesioner is fixed which keeps the 2nd reduction from dropping. even with all the flex, never had a single drop on the 2nd reduction. as for the final drive, I only drop chains if I shift too fast on power. my solution for that is proper gear shifting. lol it's not a motorcycle gearbox.....
lantice13
100 W
Nice! 
check out their prices on their current kit, do you really think a new motor would change all that?cwah
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Overclocker
10 kW
is there a support bearing on the freewheeling crankset? or does it rely solely on the freewheel?
it seems the problem is worse if you use the cheap DICTA or have a bad chain line, and the second bearing is a bandaid for these 2 issues.
Most of the kits even the LR just use a good quality ACS freewheel that has double row bearings and then you don't need a separate bearing the WI freewheel is not dual bearing and hence this MUST have the separate bearings.
The AFT kit looks interesting with the upgrades, also I notice they have 20% off now.
Ok, i saw some1 opening cyclone 1680w gearbox after around 10 000 km, teeth were worn (by the looks of it) out but could take few thousand more.
Planetary gearbox is 99$ on their website.
Some1 even dripped oil inside gearbox which should prolong it's life. Can't find the damn post!
Regarding brackets, we are trying to figure out something here:
https://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=73027
There are some specs with overvolted (2kW+) motor too. Maybe it can help.
I am aiming at this 1.8-3 kW too
Planetary gearbox is 99$ on their website.
Some1 even dripped oil inside gearbox which should prolong it's life. Can't find the damn post!
Regarding brackets, we are trying to figure out something here:
https://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=73027
There are some specs with overvolted (2kW+) motor too. Maybe it can help.
I am aiming at this 1.8-3 kW too
lantice13
100 W
Seems like Lunacycle.com are selling these at their store. http://lunacycle.com/black-friday/cyclone-mid-drive-3000-watt-planetary/ and for the flex, I would tune my controller's battery amps and phase amps ratio so that the motor will have a soft start/kick to it at dead stop. Same solution that I did with my 2015 GNG gen 1 mid drive. Bike will be less twitchy too which is important for controlling the bike.
lantice13
100 W
I would wait for the LR version. It's looking mighty fine from the photos he posted in one of the threads regarding this kit at the ES Facebook group.
lantice13
100 W
BoomerChomsi
1 kW
I am considering to buy middrive kit after many hub motors....
How is durable is motor cog?
How is durable is motor cog?
TorEddy
100 W
Review of the Cyclone 3000w:
http://electric-fatbike.com/2016/01...al-then-it-better-be-able-to-outrun-the-cops/
This kit, with some LR love and a Grin Phaserunner bolted to the BB brackets, would be nice.
http://electric-fatbike.com/2016/01...al-then-it-better-be-able-to-outrun-the-cops/
This kit, with some LR love and a Grin Phaserunner bolted to the BB brackets, would be nice.
BoomerChomsi
1 kW
Thank you for your link.
Will have a look 8)
Will have a look 8)
lantice13
100 W
Those programmable infineon controllers from Em3ev work very well with this motor. I would assume they are pretty much the same motor as the GNG gen 1. Tuning the phase amps and battery amps ratio is a must. It's no BBS02 or BBS-HD mid drive that are already programmed to start smoothly when you throttle up. For longevity of the whole drive system this is a requirement.
TorEddy
100 W
lantice13 said:
Seems like LR is talking to Justin at Grin about programming the Phaserunner for this Cyclone 3000w kit. That combo with the controller between the BB sheets, would make a waterproof and stealth looking kit.
BoomerChomsi
1 kW
What kind of brand are those controllers?
Man. I wish I had seen this motor before I bought the Crown 4080 for my recumbent cargo bike. I wanted a 2000 watt, geared motor small enough in diameter to fit in between the frame tubes, but couldn't find one. This would have worked perfectly. Replacing the single cog freewheel with one of these Enos
http://harriscyclery.net/product/white-industries-dos-eno-16-18-tooth-double-freewheel-1554.htm
would have allowed me to run the same setup I have loved on my old mid-drive for over 20K miles. Single front chainring geared for 65-100 rpm cadence with the motor running at 50-80% of no-load, and the motor running the rear gears.
http://harriscyclery.net/product/white-industries-dos-eno-16-18-tooth-double-freewheel-1554.htm
would have allowed me to run the same setup I have loved on my old mid-drive for over 20K miles. Single front chainring geared for 65-100 rpm cadence with the motor running at 50-80% of no-load, and the motor running the rear gears.
TorEddy
100 W
BoomerChomsi
1 kW
Thank you!
Also what kind of brand are Cyclone controllers?
Thanks.
Also what kind of brand are Cyclone controllers?
Thanks.
