Who do you think is pulling the strings?

[John in CR]

Who here thinks that Biden is on top of his game and is in full control of his administration? To me it's become pretty obvious that someone else (or some others) must be actually running things behind the scenes, leaving me to wonder the last few weeks who exactly that is. I saw an interview recently (sorry I forgot to bookmark it) with Barack Obama. One topic was a 3rd term, and he was pretty clear that he had no interest in the public part of the presidency, but if he'd love a 3rd term where he could do it mostly from home by computer and phone. I think there's a pretty good chance that's exactly what's going on right now, just with Biden on the nameplate.

 

[Dauntless]

Well, since you're talking about there being a true puppetmaster, I don't think there is one. I think there are various people who either are ahold of one of the strings OR have cut their own strings that he is supposed to be holding.

#1 for the latter is the second term of Dan Quayle, Kamala Harris. If the media covered her the way they covered Quayle, we'd again be hearing 'A mind is a terrible thing to lose.' (His actual quote was, at the United Negro College Fund event, "A mind IS a terrible thing to waste. But it is far worse to lose ones' mind, or to HAVE no mind AT ALL." ???? How do you spell 'Tomatoe' again?) But as long as Harris is allowed to ridicule Jewish people over Hanuka or take the briefing with the border officials about how to PREVENT what was about to happen then ignore them because the media ignores her goofs, she needs a stern boss but has no boss at all.

Meanwhile, if you've never actually heard the expression 'The comfortable old politician' or some variant, recall the basically retired president George H. W. Bush, who didn't do much besides travel, fish, check off his bucket list on the White House travel budget. There's Biden. You watch his press conference, I posted a piece in another thread, you see why Harris doesn't concern herself. You see why there's all these tuggers around him 'Misunderstanding' his instructions, going overboard to manipulate information because he'll understand it less than others. But remember Ronald Reagan, nobody is in charge, they just all run amok.

Who pulls the most strings? Why, the media, of course. So listen to the politician exhorting all those PostJournalists to drop all their Post Truth and get the REAL story. Note they don't show any interest. If they DID go talk to the man in charge of the people at the border he would tell them than KAMALA HARRIS was told this would happen if she did things, but she did it anyway. He doesn't want to say it himself, he wants them to report that the first person who knows told them this so they can't claim it's just a rumor, but they're too smart to fall for that, they just avoid the man and claim 'I know nothing, NOTHING!'

And that is how this will be strung out.

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[John in CR]

...Meanwhile, if you've never actually heard the expression 'The comfortable old politician' or some variant, recall the basically retired president George H. W. Bush, who didn't do much besides travel, fish, check off his bucket list on the White House travel budget. There's Biden. You watch his press conference, I posted a piece in another thread, you see why Harris doesn't concern herself. You see why there's all these tuggers around him 'Misunderstanding' his instructions, going overboard to manipulate information because he'll understand it less than others. But remember Ronald Reagan, nobody is in charge, they just all run amok....

The reason I don't think this is the case is the mountain of executive orders put out right from the start. Biden is a career politician and did always work toward the traditional route and getting bipartisan support to make changes through congress. This was hitting the ground running with a slew of things ready to go to make big changes from day one. Sure it could be that he told all these people to come up with stuff for his approval, but it just doesn't smell right to me...too organized and calculated, like the organized "fortify the election" shadow campaign. Yeah, not really pulling the strings, but that instead a deal was cut where he gets to be the public face and Harris has to wait until later in the term to become president for going along with the plan.

I understand that this has a tinge of conspiracy theory, but after what was pulled with the election and afterward anything is possible and the odds that things are what they appear on the surface seem low. Where are the holes in my premise that we're seeing the 3rd term Obama wanted?

 

[Dauntless]

I understand that this has a tinge of conspiracy theory, but after what was pulled with the election and afterward anything is possible and the odds that things are what they appear on the surface seem low. Where are the holes in my premise that we're seeing the 3rd term Obama wanted?

If there is a "Hole" it's that you disregard the power of the tuggers up close and personal. Obama probably does have hold of a string, but even so he can only use Biden as an intermediary, he can't get to the uncontrolled masses who aren't really following Biden. I mean don't you get it? Does it matter who has the steering wheel if the steering mechanism is broken?

And there's no conspiracy theory at all in what you're saying, they all have plans in advance, they all have outsiders trying to pressure. Dubya had Karl Rove, William McKinley had Mark Hanna. All his executive orders certainly reminds of Obama, but mostly it's a lazy way for the old man to hold his resting position. Deal making is always there, not liking his isn't conspiracy theory.

Dang, what a start Trump could have got off to. Chris Christie offered him such transition guidance only to have son-in-law send people to throw all the binders in the dumpster because the guy who put it together had put son-in-laws' father in federal prison. For illegal campaign contributions to the DEMOCRATIC party.

All I did there was tell the truth and state the facts. None Dare Call it Conspiracy. But they will anyway.

The situation would be comic if it wasn't so tragically painful for us.

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[John in CR]

Does it matter who has the steering wheel if the steering mechanism is broken?

You're right, but it's more interesting to talk about than the silly argument about fossil fuels vs green energy, for which the obvious and inevitable change will come at its own pace, aided by still undiscovered technological advances. Hopefully man really has impacted the global climate anyway, because that would mean we can engineer it to stay within the perfect range that makes food production easy as natural climate change occurs. A bit warmer will actually be better as it opens up vast currently unused land area in the northern hemisphere across Canada and the former USSR. The disgusting part of the CO2 scam is how it has distracted from man's real pollution.

Should we first discuss the ways that the steering mechanism is broken, or maybe the old steering mechanism and how it is broken is just a distraction for the masses, while massive changes are directed via a steering mechanism mostly hidden from view? The scariest thing is how far does it all tie together?....Virus response that completely ignores the science...changing laws to make nonsensical changes to social norms...huge increases in the money supply...giving up portions of major cities to anarchists...troops in DC for no apparent reason...standing down the military to search for servicemen who hold political views contrary to the current administration...and the list goes on and on.

 

[markz]

Thats right, who is the master of the puppet(Biden)?

 

[John in CR]

Thats right, who is the master of the puppet(Biden)?

Nice one, but I don't consider Metallica evil at all (give me Turn the Page as PuppeMaster never did much for me), but you got a good laugh from me so thanks for that. Let's just hope that the prophecies of the Bible aren't literal, because if true whoever the smooth talker that rises to the forefront in the very near future may very well be the Anti&*#&st and things will get a whole lot worse in a hurry.

 

[markz]

Crazy indeed
Biden is creating maturnity military flight suits
https://youtu.be/Kb1SPrwTxdo?t=320

 

[Dauntless]

Crazy indeed
Biden is creating maturnity military flight suits
https://youtu.be/Kb1SPrwTxdo?t=320

If you STILL haven't figured out that realizing that pregnant women don't belong in combat, let alone can't fly a supersonic fighter, then you're not just racist and sexist, you're, you're, um, you're SOMETHING ELSE we'll call evil.

Does it matter who has the steering wheel if the steering mechanism is broken?

. . . . it's more interesting to talk about than the silly argument about fossil fuels vs green energy, for which the obvious and inevitable change will come at its own pace

Yeah, but at least it will COME, compared to the political system just getting worse and worse and worse.

The disgusting part of the CO2 scam is how it has distracted from man's real pollution.

Yeah, I keep trying to think about what a MOTIVE would be. Are they really just so misguided they can't figure out the effort is needed elsewhere or. . . ?

maybe the old steering mechanism and how it is broken is just a distraction for the masses, while massive changes are directed via a steering mechanism mostly hidden from view?

The steering mechanism I'm calling broken is Biden himself. I recognize that SOMEONE gave those people those tshirts, but if the guy can't remember what he was saying while he says it, there can't be much outside influence. But remember Dick Cheney wrote the whiny book about how he couldn't control the president when he was vice president? I think there's a lot of underlings thinking that way right now. Keep in mind Karl Rove always denied he had any power, which to me is what I'd expect him to say if he had any, vs. the Cheney behavior.

But while I think the president and his people are supposed to be one big happy steering committee, I get the idea people are running off on their own.

The scariest thing is how far does it all tie together?....Virus response that completely ignores the science...changing laws to make nonsensical changes to social norms...huge increases in the money supply...giving up portions of major cities to anarchists...troops in DC for no apparent reason...standing down the military to search for servicemen who hold political views contrary to the current administration...and the list goes on and on.

Banana republics, tin pot dictators, and of course Stalin's Soviet Union and Nazi Germany. Places where you see exactly this happening.

Nice one, but. . . give me Turn the Page

I'll take the original.

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[John in CR]

Crazy indeed
Biden is creating maturnity military flight suits
https://youtu.be/Kb1SPrwTxdo?t=320

If you STILL haven't figured out that realizing that pregnant women don't belong in combat, let alone can't fly a supersonic fighter, then you're not just racist and sexist, you're, you're, um, you're SOMETHING ELSE we'll call evil.

Does it matter who has the steering wheel if the steering mechanism is broken?

. . . . it's more interesting to talk about than the silly argument about fossil fuels vs green energy, for which the obvious and inevitable change will come at its own pace

Yeah, but at least it will COME, compared to the political system just getting worse and worse and worse.

The disgusting part of the CO2 scam is how it has distracted from man's real pollution.

Yeah, I keep trying to think about what a MOTIVE would be. Are they really just so misguided they can't figure out the effort is needed elsewhere or. . . ?

My belief is that we just can't comprehend the evil seduction of money and power, but that can't explain how such an overwhelming majority of green activists have allowed their causes hijacked and manipulated. I've gotta believe there are plenty of intelligent free thinking scientists to prevent it, but that belief comes into question when looking at the brainwashed minions with activist videos on YouTube. For comparison just look at how common sense in the medical science community has been totally squashed for a year as related to the pandemic.

I like to believe that I'm a strong enough patriot that if that steamroller of evil comes for me that I will truly resist.

maybe the old steering mechanism and how it is broken is just a distraction for the masses, while massive changes are directed via a steering mechanism mostly hidden from view?

The steering mechanism I'm calling broken is Biden himself. I recognize that SOMEONE gave those people those tshirts, but if the guy can't remember what he was saying while he says it, there can't be much outside influence. But remember Dick Cheney wrote the whiny book about how he couldn't control the president when he was vice president? I think there's a lot of underlings thinking that way right now. Keep in mind Karl Rove always denied he had any power, which to me is what I'd expect him to say if he had any, vs. the Cheney behavior.

But while I think the president and his people are supposed to be one big happy steering committee, I get the idea people are running off on their own.

To me Biden is just the steering wheel which is pulled off of the steering column, and the rest of the steering mechanism is also broken.

The scariest thing is how far does it all tie together?....Virus response that completely ignores the science...changing laws to make nonsensical changes to social norms...huge increases in the money supply...giving up portions of major cities to anarchists...troops in DC for no apparent reason...standing down the military to search for servicemen who hold political views contrary to the current administration...and the list goes on and on.

Banana republics, tin pot dictators, and of course Stalin's Soviet Union and Nazi Germany. Places where you see exactly this happening.

I refuse to accept that once technology made life pretty easy for humans that we only get a few decades of the good life before those in power become like the most evil of the 20th century.

Nice one, but. . . give me Turn the Page

I'll take the original.
[Bob Seger's "Turn the Page"]

I love both versions, so I typically add both to play lists instead of choosing. Look at the example we're setting in that 2 adults can have a difference of opinion without yelling or name calling and neither accusing the other of being a racist.

 

[Dauntless]

My belief is that we just can't comprehend the evil seduction of money and power, but that can't explain how such an overwhelming majority of green activists have allowed their causes hijacked and manipulated. I've gotta believe there are plenty of intelligent free thinking scientists to prevent it, but that belief comes into question when looking at the brainwashed minions with activist videos on YouTube. For comparison just look at how common sense in the medical science community has been totally squashed for a year as related to the pandemic.

I like to believe that I'm a strong enough patriot that if that steamroller of evil comes for me that I will truly resist.

That is what the expression 'Deep State' is supposed to cover. My best illustration is when Jimmy Carter went to Washington he was going to clean up all this corruption, and from what I can tell he made an honest effort. But I was reading this book that I lost before I finished it about his appointing Rear Admiral Elston Turner to head the CIA and turn it around. You expect a career military officer would at least get some respect from the career CIA, but they treated him like just another bureaucrat political appointee, sort of to his face. In a few years he'll be gone and they'll still be going.

To me Biden is just the steering wheel which is pulled off of the steering column, and the rest of the steering mechanism is also broken.

Yeah, that's a good illustration of what I was trying to say.

Look at the example we're setting in that 2 adults can have a difference of opinion without yelling or name calling and neither accusing the other of being a racist.

Yeah, people forget that we've had tense disagreements before. WHY do they forget? Because we don't start screaming 'You IDIOT, how DARE you disagree with me?"

But here's a goodie. You want the rats out of government? I say it'll never happen. But maybe there's a few good rats out there. I kept thinking of putting this in 'News of the Weird,' but maybe he's setting a good example for American politics. Magawa the Wonder Rodent.

https://streakshot.com/weird-news/rat-receives-a-gold-medal-for-bravery-for-saving-lives

 

[John in CR]

...You want the rats out of government? I say it'll never happen...

You're right that it will probably never happen, however, it's not impossible to drive the vast majority out. All it would take is full transparency and since they work for us that is a perfectly reasonable demand. The problem is that they think they rule over us instead of working for us.

 

[markz]

Where do you start John?

From the top, 2 main parties with 20+ people running on each team, weeded out to 2 or 3 then to 1.

 

[Dauntless]

From the top, 2 main parties with 20+ people running on each team, weeded out to 2 or 3 then to 1.

You mean to the death, eh?

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[John in CR]

Where do you start John?

If I had a good answer I'd be doing it. Personally, I think things need to get a lot worse first, because nothing will change while the public is so complacent. Where we've seen real changes in government in our lifetimes it required the masses taking to the streets, nationwide strikes, etc. In the meantime we can contact our elected representative and hold them responsible...ie real involvement.

 

[Dauntless]

If you know your history you also realize that where we've seen real status quo and defeat is when there has been strikes, violence, people in the streets. 'The Great Upheaval,' etc.

Some say Samuel Gompers went to prison for what he believed. Gompers himself said that it was in prison he realized he was doing it all wrong. If he had not then he'd be a mostly forgotten loser.

 

[markz]

Yes, the need to fight and uprise is real.

https://youtu.be/XG5BcU1ZGiA?t=13

If you know your history you also realize that where we've seen real status quo and defeat is when there has been strikes, violence, people in the streets. 'The Great Upheaval,' etc.

Some say Samuel Gomphers went to prison for what he believed. Gomphers himself said that it was in prison he realized he was doing it all wrong. If he had not then he'd be a mostly forgotten loser.

 

[Dauntless]

Yes, the need to fight and uprise is real.

https://youtu.be/XG5BcU1ZGiA?t=13

If you know your history you also realize that where we've seen real status quo and defeat is when there has been strikes, violence, people in the streets. 'The Great Upheaval,' etc.

Ah yes, the forces of evil exhorting their flying monkeys to violence while the narcissists themselves sit comfortably at home. Thus assuring the status quo of the crushing of the followers and the leaders continuing to live well and run their mouths.

Only when Sammy boy was himself off to do time for the crimes did he start to consider that maybe, just maybe blowing up the L.A. Times and other things weren't the right thing to do. I'm not sure if he truly renounced socialism of if he simply saw it being defeated in the U.S. and jumped out in front of the charging crowd and said 'Who, ME? I never really liked those guys, anyway.'

https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/01/opinions/biden-problem-not-trips-note-cards-dogs-chen/index.html

 

[markz]

Why do you link to cnn?
CNN is not a trustworthy news organization, they are in fact fake news, or spin news.
CNN cant hide the fact that Biden is off his rocker.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/01/opinions/biden-problem-not-trips-note-cards-dogs-chen/index.html

 

[Dauntless]

CNN is an interesting situation. They're not The New York Times, they are not MSNBC, they are not 100% fake news. CBS hasn't been giving me the full scale coverage, I'm not sure how much better than CNN they'd be if they did. The issue is there isn't as much there on a lot of sources. Not everything on CNN is actually CNN itself. There just isn't a real answer.

But there are groups I like:

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/546227-georgia-governor-slams-mlb-decision-says-he-will-not-back-down

 

[markz]

Yeah they cant be that blatantly fake news can they. They need to have an aura of legitimacy to sucker the viewers in.

CNN is an interesting situation. They're not The New York Times, they are not MSNBC, they are not 100% fake news. CBS hasn't been giving me the full scale coverage, I'm not sure how much better than CNN they'd be if they did. The issue is there isn't as much there on a lot of sources. Not everything on CNN is actually CNN itself. There just isn't a real answer.

But there are groups I like:

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/546227-georgia-governor-slams-mlb-decision-says-he-will-not-back-down

 

[Dauntless]

So I'm thinking about that press conference where Biden lied about the Georgia voting law that conformed their voting laws to match those of most other states. Such as the state where the president comes from. Yet he calls Georgia 'Sick' but doesn't call Delaware sick for already having the same laws. That much comes from him.

But what about the package of lies? Did Biden make up the part where people are not allowed to have water in line? Or did someone write that into his cue cards and he just said it? Lying that the polls will close at 5pm. Again, was it written into his cards without his knowledge.

The media reported Biden's lies as though they were true. Not making comment that most states do not allow what is termed 'Electioneering' at the polling places so no organization is allowed to pass out food or drink and Georgia is just catching up. That the laws did not change polling times and they remained open until 7pm and that was a barefaced lie by Biden.

But again, why did he say it? Did he just decide to lie? Or dd the person writing the cue cards decide to lie for him?

AH, but these are the tuggers. And he is easy to tug.

 

[markz]

Have you ever heard of the band The Spin Doctors?
Lots of "Spin Doctors" in the media and within the government, and they got a big ole smile just like Chris Barron (The lead singer)

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[John in CR]

It seems like control is split into 2 primary branches. If anyone has input on who are the behind the frontman (actually frontwomen) behind the scenes string pullers who actually control things, that would be interesting to look into.

The 2 branches appear to be the Kamala Harris branch with its bot army, and the Susan Rice (Obama's 3rd term) branch, which appear to be little more than tolerant of the competing branch out of need instead of working closely with common intent and goals.