Yeah a Haibike would be great. If you could buy one. I am considering the $5500 AMT RX. Vaporware thus far though, they keep getting pushed back, Chris from Long Island Electrics says they're telling him May now which will my luck turn into end of summer. He also says the hai's are more of a bikers bike, they need more physical input than the jumper. Not that I'm opposed to putting my fair share of work in. He says the jumper feels more powerful despite being hub motor driven.
I've been looking hard at the Bafang 750 too, but that motor hanging out below the frame just seems like a recipe for disaster with all the logs and anti erosion berms in my neck of the woods. So I'm currently leaning towards a jumper but I tend to change my mind between the three daily the more I read. I like the fat bikes too but fs choices are rather slim.
Here's my pro/con list if anyone would like to comment or add to:
Pros
Bafang - cheaper, more powerful, faster, throttle, quiet, I can convert back to human powered if necessary,
Jumper - has throttle, quite stealthy, cheaper than hai, bluetooth cellphone interface available, integrated easy and readily available.
Hai - better components and suspension, more responsive pedal assist resulting in easier/safer operation in tough conditions, their mid drive said to be one of the best, probably has the largest range/most efficient, good weight distribution, usb port on battery
Cons
Bafang - more work building bike and researching/ordering/waiting for parts and tools, motor is exposed/limited clearance, difficult to find modern fs bike with favorable bb/frame construction and room in triangle for battery
Jumper - only successful speed mod I've heard of is adding extra battery in series to up the voltage, rear hub driven, Medium frame only yet still has a lofty top tube, mixed reports on suspension but probably not that great in the broad scheme of things.
Hai - expensive, lack of availability, no throttle, gen2 speed mod questionable
I've been looking hard at the Bafang 750 too, but that motor hanging out below the frame just seems like a recipe for disaster with all the logs and anti erosion berms in my neck of the woods. So I'm currently leaning towards a jumper but I tend to change my mind between the three daily the more I read. I like the fat bikes too but fs choices are rather slim.
Here's my pro/con list if anyone would like to comment or add to:
Pros
Bafang - cheaper, more powerful, faster, throttle, quiet, I can convert back to human powered if necessary,
Jumper - has throttle, quite stealthy, cheaper than hai, bluetooth cellphone interface available, integrated easy and readily available.
Hai - better components and suspension, more responsive pedal assist resulting in easier/safer operation in tough conditions, their mid drive said to be one of the best, probably has the largest range/most efficient, good weight distribution, usb port on battery
Cons
Bafang - more work building bike and researching/ordering/waiting for parts and tools, motor is exposed/limited clearance, difficult to find modern fs bike with favorable bb/frame construction and room in triangle for battery
Jumper - only successful speed mod I've heard of is adding extra battery in series to up the voltage, rear hub driven, Medium frame only yet still has a lofty top tube, mixed reports on suspension but probably not that great in the broad scheme of things.
Hai - expensive, lack of availability, no throttle, gen2 speed mod questionable