As of yet I have not tried to use a third party battery that is outside of our proscribed nominal voltage range. I have had no issues using the AllCell packs at either 36 or 48v. If you stick to those nominal voltages there shouldn't be any problems. I've not tried anything with 52v so have no idea how that would affect the controller. That would be one for Rakesh to answer for you, Dominator.
dominator said:
Looks like the issue is with the motor and the disc brake alignment, anyone ever have issues with a wobble and any suggestions on how to fix it.
With the disc wobble, that can be caused by runoff in the side covers or the disc mount or simply a bent rotor. I have had this issue before on the 250w motors we stock here and it can be cured by simply straitening the rotor. Obviously if you then moved the rotor position or put it onto another hub it would be bent, but I have no problems after doing this fix. Even when working on regular bikes that have bent rotors or poor mounts, the same fix has been an essential repair/set up method for years.
Microcar,
you are correct on a couple of things there! 100Nm will probably be beyond what can be delivered from the system as it stands at the moment regardless of which Falco motor you chose. I hope that as the years spin by we can improve on that and deliver the goods on future products for those that want it. But without running the motors on a dyno how do you usually KNOW what the NM measurement of a given motor is? when we get the chance I'm going to dyno the Falco system just to see how it performs! Yes I personally think that if the takoff of a motor is that vicious, it should probably stay in the hands of DIY builders to play with. The public would be a dangerous place to let that rip on!
However, although the standing torque isn't as impressive as some other systems and builds, I believe, the continuous torque delivery is more evenly distributed so you still retain a higher Nm figure at higher speeds. But again I would prefer to get dyno results to verify that!
Yes I am affiliated with Team Hybrid and Falco. I am the Operations director of Team Hybrid. We are helping the Falco team to develop the motors. It was us who persuaded Rakesh to get the project off the ground. I have been involved with the project for the last two years. We have made some very big leaps forward in that time but we don't like to rest, we are constantly trying to meet the high expectations we set for the product ourselves. All and any feedback form end users is incredible important to us so we know if we are delivering what is promised and improve the product as much as possible.
Samd said:
Thats my point. I don't want to show you one when a hs3540, mac,ezee or code13 bpm will deliver a higher stall torque/acceleration for half the price and doesn't require the warranty. With a standard three phase controller.
At what voltage and what top end speed!? Again perhaps I'm picking nuts out of squirrel sh1t here, but are you saying you don't want to because none of them do offer that kind of warranty or do we have some serious competition on our hands!? Remember, we are aiming this product to non-DIY end users who value the peace of mind of a warranty. If any of those above mentioned motors did ever give up the ghost for whatever reason does the end user get left in the lurch with a broken product and have to buy a new one!? That is why we offer the warranty. For guys like us who want to play around with motors and over clock them, so to speak, do we ever honestly expect to get a warranty when running them way above recommended voltage and current? No!
My point is that we can get the same if not better
overall performance than any other motor out there at significantly lower voltage and current demands! That is what the system is all about. And although there has been mention of the Falco motors costing a lot more than everything else, we are cheaper than Bionyx and offer far better performance and, again, warranty.
Is there any other DD or geared motor that will still be churning out
full assistancewhile doing 30mph when running at 36V? I would be extremely interested to know!
But you're right Mid drive will never die and shouldn't! You can build some mental bits of kit using the mid drive solution. My only personal beef with them for regular end users who buy things such as Bosch drives and Kalkhoff bikes etc. is that regardless of transmission type, you are going to eat your "bike transmission components" in no time at all and the general feedback is one of frustration when having to replace high end Shimano gear on a regular basis.
miro13car said:
From your posts and other owners posts look like FALCO "works" wonderfully with the rider while pedalling - perfect for workout.
That is because how torque sensor input is processed in FALCO controller.
When you pedal, do you feel assist kick in , how abruptly???
When you are riding with a TS (Torque Sensor) program in the motor, we have made it so that it never outruns you. One of my/our biggest pet hates were pedelec motors and indeed some torque sensor systems that just spit you along regardless of how you want to ride. I can only speak for the 250/500w systems in that they match your speed and join in the fun almost seamlessly. Yes you feel the help when it kicks in, but it assists you in a much more symbiotic relationship. The motor is always monitoring your speed/acceleration, and effort you're putting into riding and will react according to that. It is quite difficult to put into words how it feels, but the best way perhaps is to say that it's just like riding a regular bike, but you suddenly develop muscles the size of tree trunks when you need it. Best advise is to ride one when you get the chance! But that's grim you don't have any Canadian dealers yet :-(
