Thread for new battery breakthrough PR releases

speedmd said:
https://drexel.edu/now/archive/2022/February/lithium-sulfur-cathode-carbonate-electrolyte/

Upon further investigation, the team found that during the process of depositing sulfur on the carbon nanofiber surface — changing it from a gas to a solid — it crystallized in an unexpected way, forming a slight variation of the element, called monoclinic gamma-phase sulfur. This chemical phase of sulfur, which is not reactive with the carbonate electrolyte, had previously only been created at high temperatures in labs and has only been observed in nature in the extreme environment of oil wells.

Sometimes the greatest discoveries were simply unexpected.

It sounds very promising.
 
Maybe so, but they spend 100's of millions on satellites, the battery enclosure alone is probably a million bucks.
An interesting read to get a grasp on my rando #'s but I wasnt to far off.
https://globalcomsatphone.com/costs/

Hillhater said:
IF,..they are actually being shipped for use in satelite’s , then someone must have confidence in cyclelife and reliability etc.
 
Well, certainly those first high specific energy cells would be very expensive,..but my point was with such a high value project as a satelite, that you have no ability to service once launched,..you would have to be VERY SURE that the cells were the best available wrt reliability and lifespan.
 
"Sakuu, developer of the first 3D-printed solid-state battery, reports achieving an energy-density of 800 Wh/L in its first-generation non-printed lithium-metal battery. The company said this marks a significant milestone on Sakuu’s roadmap to fully 3D printable solid-state batteries capable of greater than 1200 Wh/L by 2023."

https://www.greencarcongress.com/2022/03/20220316-sakuu.html
 
800 Wh/L is no big leap forward, and at best will only save a little space in a assembled pack.....not a critical factor.
The specific energy, Wh/kg, is much more important for transport & mobile applications.
..together with the power metrics of course.
..but not much detail being revealed on that so far.
 
LFP is most likely its competitor and at some 400 wh/l best case, 800 would be a significant step assuming density not significantly different. Hard to tell what chemistry they are settled on with the little detail they are making public but the 3d process sounds interesting. Selective sintering may have some advantages here.
 
The battery "investment" side, is talking up "Nanopowder" as the latest greatest development in potential higher energy density Li batteries. Following a few of the links so far has led to technical dead ends for real details. Graphene and silicon blends were noted on several non technical reports. Also many direct to the term "forever" (multi million mile) battery. May just be a wall street word cloud BS generator output. :lol:

Update:

Google linked several of the common sentences- statement to a replay of a two year old investment hype - scam. Caution wasting time following leads to "nano powder" "nanopowder" super battery topics.
 
speedmd said:
Gogoro announced new solid state scooter swap battery with 47% more capacity.
https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/4468503

"The Taiwanese company hopes to introduce the next-generation batteries in the next three to four years, according to Gogoro Chief Product Officer Peng Ming-i (彭明義)."
 
Berlin-based Theion, a developer of lithium-sulfur cathode technology, appointed Dr. Ulrich Ehmes as CEO and announced the upcoming commercial availability of its Crystal Battery for applications, beginning with the aerospace sector.
Dr. Ehmes, who has a long track record of industrializing battery production at companies such as Leclanché, will lead the commercialization of Theion’s innovative lithium-sulfur cathode technology, which is targeting triple the range and usage time compared to conventional lithium-ion cells.

https://www.greencarcongress.com/2022/03/20220330-theion.html
Targeted performances are:

Gravimetric energy density ≥ 1, 000 Wh/kg (Gen 4)

Volumetric energy density ≥ 1,500 Wh/l

Power capability ≈ 12.000 W/kg

Cycle life ≥ 1,000 at 1 C

Operational temperature -20 °C to 60 °C
:shock:
 
New video that popped up on YouTube, over 1million views, probably take it with a grain of salt as a practical game changer :wink: :lol:
Nuclear Diamond Batteries Finally Hit The Market!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeVOFydscAo
[youtube]qeVOFydscAo[/youtube]
 
https://techcrunch.com/2022/05/04/p...licon-batteries-for-future-electric-vehicles/

Porsche joins $400M bet on lithium-silicon batteries to juice up future EVs
Harri Weber, Tim De Chant / 11:20 AM PDT•May 4, 2022

With its first electric vehicle now outselling the quintessential 911 sports car, the German automaker is responding by upping its bet on EVs, in part via a hefty investment in lithium-silicon battery developer Group14 Technologies.

Porsche injected $100 million into Group14 as part of a larger $400 million Series C funding round. Other investors that chipped in include Canadian pension fund OMERS, Decarbonization Partners, private equity firm Riverstone, Vsquared Ventures and Moore Strategic Ventures.

Group14’s key technology is a silicon-carbon powder that can either replace or augment graphite anodes. Graphite is used in most of today’s lithium-ion batteries, and it’s a sensible anode because it’s stable and can store a reasonable amount of energy.

Yet as automakers push for higher energy densities, graphite is being pushed up against its limits. Silicon is an attractive alternative since it’s able to hold far more lithium — theoretically up to 10 times more. But that same benefit is also the silicon’s Achilles’ heel. Because silicon absorbs so much lithium, the molecular-scale expansion and contraction can degrade the anode’s structure, leading to premature failure.

Group14 is one of many startups racing to develop silicon-based anodes that can be repeatedly charged and discharged without breaking down. To do that, the company infuses a porous carbon scaffold with a silicon-containing gas. The end result is a carbon compound that’s peppered with nanoscale silicon particles. Those particles serve to grab hold of lithium ions while the carbon scaffold serves as a stable structure so the anode doesn’t decompose as it’s used.

Group14 says that its carbon-silicon material can be blended with graphite anodes, too, and that it can be dropped into an existing battery production line with few modifications.

The startup claims that its SCC55 material can store 50% more energy than traditional graphite anodes. It has one battery materials plant online currently and has two more in the works, one a joint venture with SK Group that’s coming online later this year and another that’ll start producing in 2023. Group14 appears to be targeting production for Porsche battery packs in 2024.

For an automaker like Porsche, which built its reputation on lightweight, high-performance sports cars, the prospect of a smaller and more powerful battery must be appealing.

Advancing battery tech is key to decarbonizing the auto industry, which accounted for 9% of global greenhouse gas emissions in 2018, per Greenpeace. Yet, this potentially beneficial deal does little to wipe away the dirty track record of some of Group14’s investors, a few of whom are prolific fossil fuel backers.

Decarbonization Partners, for example, is a joint venture between BlackRock and Temasek. The pair has backed some intriguing, sustainability-focused firms such as mushroom leather startup MycoWorks, yet BlackRock also recently pledged to “continue to invest in and support fossil fuel companies.” The $97.3 billion investing giant has a tendency to talk out of both sides of its mouth. OMERS’ portfolio also includes several crude oil and gas ventures, though the pension fund has promised to reach net-zero emissions across its investments by the distant year of 2050.

For Group14, the new deal represents a big step up — by nearly a factor of 10. Prior to the raise, the Woodinville, Washington-based startup had reportedly secured a combined $41.5 million or so in venture dollars and government grants.
 
I can't believe this isn't getting more coverage. I think this could be much more important for an all electric future than lithium ion batteries.

https://enzinc.com/

This is a frustrating video. I would like to see the discussion with each developer separately, rather than all broken up.

https://youtu.be/DMjDi_-6Xn4
 
"XPeng, Mr. He said in a conference call after announcing its first quarterly report on May 23 that the company plans to start mass deployment of 480 kW next-generation superchargers in the fourth quarter"

10 - 80% in 12 minutes. :shock:

https://cnevpost.com/2022/06/14/xpeng-ceo-expects-ev-experience-to-see-disruptive-changes-in-near-future-due-to-super-fast-charging/
 
e-beach said:
https://techcrunch.com/2022/05/04/p...licon-batteries-for-future-electric-vehicles/
Porsche joins $400M bet on lithium-silicon batteries to juice up future EVs

Looks good, but the thing I hate about this stuff is the lack of providing a even basic level of proof.

If a new technology battery cell existed in even prototype stage, then such companies should invite some one famous like major tech YouTuber Adam Savage etc into their labs.

Someone like Adam Savage with just their own simple watt meter allowed to test/demonstrate their prototype cell to show its enhanced watt-hours over weight/size, would go a long way.

The only thing that could happen is it would generate more interest and possibly more investment for the company, but it seems even the tiniest bit of validation of these new battery cell technology claims are not at all wanted!? :?

So not even prototype demos exist... Adam Savage gets robots like the Boston Dynamics Spot for free to play with as much as he wants for his YouTube channel but there is absolutely ZERO when it comes to any battery company sending a cell sample to a famous tech YouTuber to show off future batteries and their capacities to anyone, it's all just SUPER EMPTY claims.
 
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