Truckrun M09 vs Bafang Ultra, need advice.

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I've been searching for a new middrive motor that will make me go 40mph. I've only just heard of the truckrun M09, with 240nm of torque??


Does anyone have experience working with truckrun? Is there anything I should know about either motors. I'm currently on both a TSDZ2/B.

thanks!
 
Trucrun has some strange way of mesuring Torque.I looked into some of the Truckrun motors before because of their high torque.But what I found out is that they have much higher torque with less current than Bafang.So I just forgot about it,fake marketing was my conclusion
 
the truckrun m09 absolutely makes mincemeat out of the bafang g510 (m620) as ive had both at same time and sold the bafang and kept the truckrun which ive upgraded the drivetrain on to a full gates cdx setup with a pinion bt1 for gates cdx belt drives that are on a full suspension ebike as compression on rear suspension is relatively fluid riding and the tensioner is vital in keeping belt drive together and so much quieter and so much quicker ive had to limit it so to keep front of bike on the deck and believe you me its a beast in sheeps clothing!! anyways i was underwhelmed by any bafang but they are bringing out the next motor to match truckruns m09 and itll fit into a g510 framework so both motors will be same really in the end if your going for the best but truckrun are cheaper and more reliable on letting you know battery power left as u go on as i had to use a cycle analyst v3 with shunt to tell me same info and also with truckrun is bluetooth and connects to my phone for satnav which is cool so it also can be tracked if goes walkies but only if bike is under power and on!! from doug and hope this helps
 
Hello.

You saying Truckrun M09 has same mounting as M620? I heard it is engineers who left Bafang, true?

What about communication protocol? Is it CAN compatible with Bafang? Can I use Bafang displays?
 
Hello.

You saying Truckrun M09 has same mounting as M620? I heard it is engineers who left Bafang, true?

What about communication protocol? Is it CAN compatible with Bafang? Can I use Bafang displays?
I added a throttle to my Priority Current, which uses a Truckrun motor (I think it's an M01, but they're all so similar it's hard to tell because Priority rebranded it). I used a throttle and display cable for a Bafang motor, but it wasn't plug-and-play: I had to strip the cables and solder the individual wires together because the pinouts don't match.

Hopefully that's enough information to answer your question. As an aside, the only complaint I have about my Truckrun motor is that it isn't the M09 model. I doubt you could hit 40mph with a M09, but you might be able to. Probably mid to high 30s; I hit 28mph on flat pavement with their M01, which is rated at 140Nm.
 
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the truckrun m09 absolutely makes mincemeat out of the bafang g510 (m620) as ive had both at same time and sold the bafang and kept the truckrun which ive upgraded the drivetrain on to a full gates cdx setup with a pinion bt1 for gates cdx belt drives that are on a full suspension ebike as compression on rear suspension is relatively fluid riding and the tensioner is vital in keeping belt drive together and so much quieter and so much quicker ive had to limit it so to keep front of bike on the deck and believe you me its a beast in sheeps clothing!! anyways i was underwhelmed by any bafang but they are bringing out the next motor to match truckruns m09 and itll fit into a g510 framework so both motors will be same really in the end if your going for the best but truckrun are cheaper and more reliable on letting you know battery power left as u go on as i had to use a cycle analyst v3 with shunt to tell me same info and also with truckrun is bluetooth and connects to my phone for satnav which is cool so it also can be tracked if goes walkies but only if bike is under power and on!! from doug and hope this helps
Is the truck run stamped? I need something "nominally" 750 with super torque, could I buy the 1200 and claim it's the 750 or are they all individually marked, how the reliability vs 02, BBSHD or uktra, can truck run be mounted on anything
 
Is the truck run stamped? I need something "nominally" 750 with super torque, could I buy the 1200 and claim it's the 750 or are they all individually marked, how the reliability vs 02, BBSHD or uktra, can truck run be mounted on anything
its not stamped for what i can see and tbh ill never go for bafang again as truckrun are taking off and people love them as ive used and tried both 1000 and 1200 watt versions and the 1000 watt version is like 200 nm torque compared to 240 nm on the 1200 watt motor and big motor and very heavy duty and dont get hot hammering the crap out of it as it handles everything thrown at it including the kitchen sink so to speak and if you do go for this kit mine is uart and can bus but ill let you do your homework but truckrun are ahead of the curve and my new build im using a 4leaf frame that is compatible with truckrun m09 1200 watt and can take a limit of 48v 17.5 amp hour battery so the 4 leaf frame and motor aswell as battery and all carbon fibre handlebars that has stem built into it to compliment this kit i have boost version of fromnt specialised 35 front shocks and dnm with lockout on rear shock all hydraulic brakes with the right front normal 8 gear selector by wire and the brake built into same lever housing is hydraulic so will save space and all matching screws and rotors aswell as top of range basically everything was best way to spend £2700 -£3000 and the ebike will be my dream ebike and all will be carbon fibre except from front fork /shocks and also will need a short enough seatpost as not to damage carbon fibre innerds as a proper sharp angle in seatpost outerframe so no typical seatdropper can be utilised really unless your tall enough that is but im lucky im a short arse lol also any question let me know and ill do my best to give you a good answer thatll help in building your own ebike like me!! where u based? cos if in uk near me plymouth devon english ill be able to help u out or vice versa on ifo or parts or swaps or anything to be honest as im always fair as im not materialistic in any way to be honest and dont do it to show off as im all about low key and NOT getting noticed ! also i might have a ebike for sale with same motor and ali all suspension frame all built just waiting on wiring harness to turn up to test it as i had a short and fried the self destruct in the harness that protects the motor and mainly the motor and battery so after that its got everythings been serviced and as soon as i get a harness and working do u want me to let you know!? stay safe and regards from bugsy
 

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Trucrun has some strange way of mesuring Torque.I looked into some of the Truckrun motors before because of their high torque.But what I found out is that they have much higher torque with less current than Bafang.So I just forgot about it,fake marketing was my conclusion
No you’re in error. My M05 has been and is absolutely fantastic 500W. I since received a new BBSHD, and my word am I disappointed with the 1000W Bafang. I’ve coupled the Truckrun, to an X-RD3. And I believe it’s the personification of, the most ideal ‘e bike’ motor I’ve tried. The M05 is so sweat and so silent too. Three years of no problems it’s like the first day I rode it.
 
No you’re in error. My M05 has been and is absolutely fantastic 500W. I since received a new BBSHD, and my word am I disappointed with the 1000W Bafang. I’ve coupled the Truckrun, to an X-RD3. And I believe it’s the personification of, the most ideal ‘e bike’ motor I’ve tried. The M05 is so sweat and so silent too. Three years of no problems it’s like the first day I rode it.
Well they told me their 250w motor had 120nm of torque.when I asked about the controller they told me it was 36volt 14a controller.if you know anything about ebikes you see what's wrong here
 
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Yes I am new to this subject. 1Boris, yes 120Nm sounds a lot. 36 x 14 = 504, is this what you mean?
I have the 500W version according to my Dpc18, it peeks at about 900W. They say as much as 145Nm, I don’t know. What I do know is connected to an X-RD3 I climb all Snowdonia hills and still cruise at 32kmph. It’s the best I’ve had so far 3 years and no problems. I rate mine highly. Smaller and more compact I think it suits the BB, better than a BBSHD, which juts out to the left too much.
My BBSHD, though more powerful, the same tranquility of ride, cannot be reached.
The M05,isn’t some kind of Bafang copy, or inferior clone. Though the M05, looks similar to the BBSHD, in actual fact the two are indeed very different animals.
Bafang isn’t exactly the most honest company, with it’s self proclaimed specifications, they’ve been caught telling porkies too.
Now get this a new Truckrun, M09 is claimed to max out at 245Nm, 1200-1600W.
 
Yes their torque rating is crazy.504 watt would be morel like 60nm.if your 500watt peaks at 900w it is same as Bafang bbs 500w which is 100nm.thats what I mean with fake marketing
 
whats up with the UART ultra? some people were saying the early ultras were no good. can the canbus bafang be reprogrammed somehow, do you even need to, are either sold engraved at 750w, can the canbus ultra use any battery. does anyone sell complete ultra UART bikes. i found one retailer with 750w UART ultra motor but it was fat mount. is the ultra louder with steel gears. does the ULTRA actually have more torque or just torque sensing
 
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Yes I am new to this subject. 1Boris, yes 120Nm sounds a lot. 36 x 14 = 504, is this what you mean?
I have the 500W version according to my Dpc18, it peeks at about 900W. They say as much as 145Nm, I don’t know. What I do know is connected to an X-RD3 I climb all Snowdonia hills and still cruise at 32kmph. It’s the best I’ve had so far 3 years and no problems. I rate mine highly. Smaller and more compact I think it suits the BB, better than a BBSHD, which juts out to the left too much.
My BBSHD, though more powerful, the same tranquility of ride, cannot be reached.
The M05,isn’t some kind of Bafang copy, or inferior clone. Though the M05, looks similar to the BBSHD, in actual fact the two are indeed very different animals.
Bafang isn’t exactly the most honest company, with it’s self proclaimed specifications, they’ve been caught telling porkies too.
Now get this a new Truckrun, M09 is claimed to max out at 245Nm, 1200-1600W.

Just wanted to mention that I put an inline ammeter between my second battery and my Truckrun M01 motor -- since last posting here, I did verify that it's the M01 on Priority Current ebikes -- and despite being a 500 watt motor, it routinely draws 900-950 watts (15-20 amps). I can't compare to the BBS02 or BBSHD because I've only ridden a 750 watt Bafang hub motor, but the M01 middrive has a higher top speed, if nothing else. In short, I agree with everything supporters of Truckrun have said so far, basically.

With my M01, though, it doesn't ever hit 900-950 watts unless I'm using the throttle. It's not possible to push the motor quite that hard with the Torque sensors alone, for whatever reason. Also, after 5-10 minutes at 900-950 watts, it drops down to 600-700 (and occasionally I get an error code come up on my display that the interwebz tell me means that my motor is overheating, which doesn't seem possible to trigger without the added throttle, nor has it caused any noticeable wear in 6+ months of riding it the way I do). Take it easy on the motor for a minute or two and it'll go back to 900+, and seems to just kind of keep bouncing back & forth every couple of minutes that way indefinitely.

They're designed for specific mounts ("tumors" I think more experienced people call them), but I really like Truckrun motors despite that.
 
Just wanted to mention that I put an inline ammeter between my second battery and my Truckrun M01 motor -- since last posting here, I did verify that it's the M01 on Priority Current ebikes -- and despite being a 500 watt motor, it routinely draws 900-950 watts (15-20 amps). I can't compare to the BBS02 or BBSHD because I've only ridden a 750 watt Bafang hub motor, but the M01 middrive has a higher top speed, if nothing else. In short, I agree with everything supporters of Truckrun have said so far, basically.

With my M01, though, it doesn't ever hit 900-950 watts unless I'm using the throttle. It's not possible to push the motor quite that hard with the Torque sensors alone, for whatever reason. Also, after 5-10 minutes at 900-950 watts, it drops down to 600-700 (and occasionally I get an error code come up on my display that the interwebz tell me means that my motor is overheating, which doesn't seem possible to trigger without the added throttle, nor has it caused any noticeable wear in 6+ months of riding it the way I do). Take it easy on the motor for a minute or two and it'll go back to 900+, and seems to just kind of keep bouncing back & forth every couple of minutes that way indefinitely.

They're designed for specific mounts ("tumors" I think more experienced people call them), but I really like Truckrun motors despite that.
How long have you had yours and what size is your Priority Current? I've been trying to arrange (via email) to see/ touch or better yet, test ride a small size at their Hudson St store for 2 years now w/o success.
 
How long have you had yours and what size is your Priority Current? I've been trying to arrange (via email) to see/ touch or better yet, test ride a small size at their Hudson St store for 2 years now w/o success.
Medium. It's a great ebike with extremely responsive torque sensing. If you set it on power levels above 2 though, the range is absolute garbage. The stock, in-frame battery on mine cuts out after 5 miles if I put it on assist level 5 (the max). Level 1 is ~150 watts, 2 is ~300, 3 is ~450, 4 is ~700 watts and 5 is ~900 watts. But then again, I do live in an extremely hilly area; lots of steep inclines both ways no matter what direction I head in. When I say "cuts out," what I mean is that it very noticeably drops itself down to assist level 1 or 2 immediately, flashes a dead battery display, and then lasts so long at that level of power output that I've never actually had it die on me. Goes at least 2+ miles like that, but I tinkered with mine and have four batteries on the thing (it's my only transportation, so I like having ~100 miles of range).

Their customer service is top notch too. It's a great ride, and I haven't found a better one for the price, but it comes up short in a lot of ways as well.
 
Mebbe it is post covid... But I really wanna see an option 6, where it actually woke you up this morning with a smack on the gob...
 
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