Voltbike Yukon

I took the bike out last night. It was bitterly cold with winds gusting to 56 km/h but I really want to put the bike through its paces. I went into some farmer's fields near my place and was able to test the power in rougher conditions. As I was riding I suddenly ran into some nesting Canada Geese and had to change course, which took me into some substantial water, like maybe 6-8" deep. The motor really bogged down because there was pretty tall grass, too. I just pedalled through it, no problems, and as soon as I was out of the water and grass I was zipping along once again. The fenders worked very well, and aside from some minor splashes on my pant legs, I stayed dry. My face at the end of the ride was damn near frozen (think of the frozen scooter ride in Dumb and Dumber), but I was happy.
Today the weather was a tad nicer and I went out with my sons for a spin. I let my 12-year-old try it out, and needless to say he enjoyed it immensely. He let out a big whoop a couple of times.
 
No it not , just a quick experiment $7 1/4" x 36' tape from your local Canadian Tire
and yes my goal is to have the reflective type on the wheels at some point.
Looks like you guys a having fun despite the cold.
 
182km my second charge I got 100km on PAS1 , flashing battery indicator 42V, 2h on charge backup to 50v.
I am liking the PSA1 it makes me feel like the super man!
 
Esting said:
182km my second charge I got 100km on PAS1 , flashing battery indicator 42V, 2h on charge backup to 50v.
I am liking the PSA1 it makes me feel like the super man!
That's awesome range! That makes me happy to hear, because I'm thinking ahead to summertime and what trails and fire roads I want to take the bike on. The more range, the more adventures I can have. :D
The weather in Winnipeg has been pretty bad, so I've only put 50 km on mine so far. I went out tonight in the wet and cold. It was fun, but I froze my face off. At least I now know the fenders work well!
Still haven't decided on the seat post suspension. I'm leaning towards the thud buster. I may buy it this week. I am also really wishing the bike had front suspension. At higher speeds, big bumps can be very jarring. I've spent a couple of hours reading up on shocks and I have a couple of candidates I'm eyeballing.
How do you find the bike handles big bumps at higher speeds? Did you lower the air pressure in your tires?
 
I went with Suntour NCX Suspension Seat-Post because I am only 5'-7" and I think the thud buster will be high for me.
Yes the bumps are very jarring, I am getting good at intercepting bumps and standing on the pegs.
No I have not played with tire pressure.
The bike definitely need front suspension, witch one are you looking at?
Now about this one http://lunacycle.com/sondors-upgrades/suspension-front-fat-bike-fork-for-sondors-and-other-fat-ebikes/
We need to take the head set apart and see what type it is , before I can make a decision on what fork to buy.
 
I find my tire pressures have to be low or high for a good ride. At max bumps are rough but controllable at below 7 psi they are smooth. In between I have gotten bounced right off the pedals before. I actually had some bmx style footstraps on the peddles for a while it bothered me so much.

Now I just run low pressure all the time, but its just my offroad bike so i dont mind the lower range. And i have a bit bigger motor and battery than you guys.

Please someone order one of those luna cycle forks! They are so cheap id love t hear a review.


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Esting said:
I went with Suntour NCX Suspension Seat-Post because I am only 5'-7" and I think the thud buster will be high for me.
Yes the bumps are very jarring, I am getting good at intercepting bumps and standing on the pegs.
No I have not played with tire pressure.
The bike definitely need front suspension, witch one are you looking at?
Now about this one http://lunacycle.com/sondors-upgrades/suspension-front-fat-bike-fork-for-sondors-and-other-fat-ebikes/
We need to take the head set apart and see what type it is , before I can make a decision on what fork to buy.

Those are the forks I was considering most. Pretty much all the other options are much more expensive, as you probably know. At the price of the Lunacycle forks, there isn't too much at risk. George from VB said they looked like they might work, but he questioned how good they would look. I think he is worried I'll make the Yukon fugly. Lol.
 
We need to find what the head tube is, 1-1/8 straight or tapered tube, or else does not matter how cheap it is, it still no good , if its tapered it will be expensive.
Maybe this thread need to be renamed to VoltBike Yukon?

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/new-26-beach-fat-tires-bike-bicycle-fork-snow-spread-135mm-suspension-frok-/291688531686?var=&hash=item43e9fdc6e6:m:m1lEsda4penUUZ62AI8JcpA
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/RockShox-Bluto-RL-100mm-26-Fat-Bike-Fork-Motion-Control-15mm-Tapered-Black-/400924827669?hash=item5d58fb6015:g:OFMAAOSwHnFVjfQD
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/beach-bike-fat-tire-bike-fork-snow-bike-fork-spread-135mm-suspension-fork-26-in-/252307264440?hash=item3abeaf53b8:g:Uo4AAOSwu4BVs66h

http://forums.mtbr.com/fat-bikes/cheap-suspension-fork-my-fat-bike-949740.html
 
Esting said:
We need to find what the head tube is, 1-1/8 straight or tapered tube, or else dos not matter how cheap it is, it still no good , if its tapered it will be expensive.
Maybe this thread need to be renamed to VoltBike Yukon?

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/new-26-beach-fat-tires-bike-bicycle-fork-snow-spread-135mm-suspension-frok-/291688531686?var=&hash=item43e9fdc6e6:m:m1lEsda4penUUZ62AI8JcpA
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/RockShox-Bluto-RL-100mm-26-Fat-Bike-Fork-Motion-Control-15mm-Tapered-Black-/400924827669?hash=item5d58fb6015:g:OFMAAOSwHnFVjfQD
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/beach-bike-fat-tire-bike-fork-snow-bike-fork-spread-135mm-suspension-fork-26-in-/252307264440?hash=item3abeaf53b8:g:Uo4AAOSwu4BVs66h

Thread renamed!
 
Put on a set of hand grips
http://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/schwinn-dual-bicycle-grips-0733318p.html#.VxP9m2D2aUk
and pushed the odometer to 192km , made a big difference to my hands and comfort.
Maybe I should have got a bike like this and saved a hole lot money
http://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/schwinn-biggity-dlx-mens-26-hardtail-mountain-bike-0711653p.html#.VxP8ZWD2aUk
What and not feel like SUPER MAN!!
 
Karl Gesslein at electricbike-blog.com as a review on the Sondors Bike upgrade Suspension fork $89 from LunaCycle.com
https://electricbike-blog.com/2016/04/17/i-like-my-presidential-cantidates-like-i-like-my-suspension-forks-cheap-loose-fat-they-all-are/
 
Don't underrate the fork too much. If you take a suspended one, it has to be soft and must have to be correctly setup in order you to get full benefit. A too cheap one will have no hydraulic, just a spring and it will never be good. For normal dropout, you have basoc rockshox at 150-220$ that will do greatly. Prefer also air cartridge instead of ssprin, because you can adjust it to your weight.
 
Esting said:
Karl Gesslein at electricbike-blog.com as a review on the Sondors Bike upgrade Suspension fork $89 from LunaCycle.com
https://electricbike-blog.com/2016/04/17/i-like-my-presidential-cantidates-like-i-like-my-suspension-forks-cheap-loose-fat-they-all-are/

Ya dang I saw that last night. Shortly after my order from luna cycle shipped. I should have added one of those, especially since the review mentions the cold weather issues with air forks.

I would just add one to the order for my new single speed 3000w cyclone fat bike build. But Ill wait till one of you tries it now :)
 
greg_p said:
Don't underrate the fork too much. If you take a suspended one, it has to be soft and must have to be correctly setup in order you to get full benefit. A too cheap one will have no hydraulic, just a spring and it will never be good. For normal dropout, you have basoc rockshox at 150-220$ that will do greatly. Prefer also air cartridge instead of ssprin, because you can adjust it to your weight.

basoc rockshox at 150-220$ is this for Fat bike 135mm any links?
 
No he didn't read the thread. There is the rst fork but its pretty much the cost of the bluto.

And then there is these weird things http://www.laufforks.com/lauf-carbonara/


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Grizzl-E said:
No he didn't read the thread. There is the rst fork but its pretty much the cost of the bluto.

And then there is these weird things http://www.laufforks.com/lauf-carbonara/


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Yes I have seen this, fancy and very expensive , but not much better that $90 one when you look at the performance , its just a fancy spring!

I do know something about suspensions , remote control RC cars , Kawasaki VN2000 / Suzuki B-King and a Kawasaki KLR , Mazda speed3 zoom zoom!!

It not the cost , but if it will fit on this Bike.
it will need a new Front 15 or 20mm Axle Hub thru-axle design to make the expensive fork work and a straight head tube 1-1/8 , will take my bike apart and see what it need to put suspension fork on it.

This One is available straight and tapered but needs a Front 15mm Axle and Hub thru-axle design
http://www.dnmshock.com/products.php?func=p_detail&p_id=91&pc_parent=6

I like this , but it does not fit, dual disk!
http://www.dnmshock.com/products.php?func=p_detail&p_id=80&pc_parent=6
 
Went out tonight despite the crappy weather (4C-ish with ice pellets). I tried some of the fields and farmer's roads that run along the ditches near my place. I'd walked these before, so I knew what to expect. Lots of big holes from various burrowing critters, but very fun to ride. The Yukon feels very much like an electric dirtbike. It's s easy to get up to the mid 30's (km/h) even in fairly thick grass and dirt. I really wouldn't want any more power.
On my way back I decided to veer off into uncharted territory. I was trying to find a shortcut through some fields. It got pretty marshy and muddy in parts, which required some quick detours and furious pedalling. Ran into loads of geese who weren't too happy I was invading their nesting areas.
When I got home I had a big cleanup job to do. I used a plastic bag and some hockey tape and covered my battery terminal, and then hosed her down. I avoided spraying the hub motor to be on the safe side, but it was clean in any case. The chain and derailleur were a mess, full of our Red River Gumbo and grass. Tomorrow I'll be doing a more thorough cleaning and lubing.
So much fun to ride, I can't wait to get to the Whiteshell on some trails.
 

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Well looks like you are having fun , I hope its just as fun cleaning it.
Maybe I should box up some 28c sun we are having in Alberta and send it to you.

My odometer now reads 283Km
I installed the Suntour NCX Suspension Seat-Post and very happy with it, it has made a very big deferens , the Brooks saddle fits.
It setup very easy with my 210lb , I put a oil ring on it witch made it easy to setup by my self.
This is the setup manual.


and pic of the hand grips and seat-post
it is 27" to the top of the seat from the BB
 

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Looking good, Esting. Your upgrades and TLC make your Yukon look very clean and stylish.
Today I finished cleaning up after my ride in the mud. The derailleur and cassette were a mess, with caked mud and grass. The chain was pretty rough, too. I had wiped most of the mud and clay off the chain the other night, but there was still a fair amount to clean. The chain and cassette were already rusting a bit. I wiped and brushed everything and lubed it with some WD-40 dry chain lube.

I went for a ride tonight. I was in the mood to ride fast without too much effort, so I was at max power most of the the time. I cruised without pedalling for maybe 6 kms of the trip. The whole trip was about 22 kms, which almost completely drained my battery.

I rode to Kildonan Park, then down Scotia Ave. A nice scenic ride in one of Winnipeg's hidden gem neighbourhoods. https://www.google.ca/maps/@49.9260519,-97.1130276,3a,75y,118.39h,85.1t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s5Efe9VAE973Ro01xWw77lQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 The road was blocked by construction at one point, but I was able to power through the mud and ruts with no trouble. It's a lot of fun to use the big tires and motor to traverse obstacles with total ease.

At the end of Scotia, I wound up at historic St. John's Cathedral. https://www.google.ca/maps/dir/St.+John's+Park,+Winnipeg,+MB/Kildonan+Park,+Main+Street,+Winnipeg,+MB/@49.9208571,-97.1246469,146m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m13!4m12!1m5!1m1!1s0x52ea710bdc80bab7:0xfb2e9be2daf09dba!2m2!1d-97.1253671!2d49.9201851!1m5!1m1!1s0x52ea704a38533f9f:0x3940c5703313afae!2m2!1d-97.103431!2d49.9418506
I entered the churchyard, which is also a cemetery. I needed a break so I walked around the cemetery looking at the grave markers. Once I was ready to go home I headed for the exit, which I discovered was locked. In between the time I entered the graveyard and when I went to exit (15 mins, max) they had locked the gates! I was locked in. The whole cemetery was fenced by a big, heavy-duty chainlink fence.

I proceded to look around the perimeter for an opening I could squeeze through, but there was nothing big enough for the Yukon. At the back corner of the graveyard was the groundskeeper's shed and work area. There was a big pile of concrete rubble right next to the fence. I found a huge old piece of scaffold platform which I leaned up against the exterior side of the fence as a ramp. A neighbour saw what I was doing and came over to help. Unfortunately he tugged on the ramp when I wasn't expecting it, and my finger got sliced by the top of the chainlink. It is one of those fences that has the pointy, razor-sharp chainlink wires on the top as a security feature. I was bleeding pretty good, so the neighbour dude went and got me a couple of band-aids while I used a kleenex to stop the bleeding.

I hulked the bike to the top of the rubble pile and over the top of the fence onto my ramp. The neighbour helped to ease the bike down the ramp. It was pretty damn lucky there was that piece of scaffolding and that pile of rubble, and it was super fortunate that the guy lent a hand.

The guy was curious about the bike, so we chatted about it for a bit, and then I headed home. I cleaned my wound as soon as I got home and told my wife about my escape. We had a good laugh about it.

So the moral of the story is, don't go visiting a fenced graveyard unless you know when it closes!
 

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Lol I am a completely law abiding citizen, but I regularly carry a folding handle bolt cutter. I got locked in one to many times in gravel pits etc. Its more funny when it happens to someone else. Thats one of the problems with exploring and being stealthy hey?

Glad to hear you got the bike out ok! Hope your finger heals up ok.


If you don't mind me asking, where did you get the seat post? The shipping was so expensive when i was looking.
 
Grizzl-E said:
Lol I am a completely law abiding citizen, but I regularly carry a folding handle bolt cutter. I got locked in one to many times in gravel pits etc. Its more funny when it happens to someone else. Thats one of the problems with exploring and being stealthy hey?

Glad to hear you got the bike out ok! Hope your finger heals up ok.


If you don't mind me asking, where did you get the seat post? The shipping was so expensive when i was looking.

I will confess I was looking at those locks thinking "How hard would it be to break that thing?" I'm glad I was able to get out without resorting to destructive options! :)

I don't have a new seatpost yet. I'm still debating which one to get. I think you're thinking of Esting's Suntour NCX.

I think a new stem and/or handlebars is a bigger priority for me. I feel like i need a slightly more upright position to make my ride feel a bit more comfortable.
 
gepinniw said:
I think a new stem and/or handlebars is a bigger priority for me. I feel like i need a slightly more upright position to make my ride feel a bit more comfortable.

You should go by MEC and pick up a variable raiser.
 
The seat post is from
http://www.biktrix.com/collections/accessories/products/suntour-ncx-suspension-seat-post
Out of Saskatoon Saskatchewan

That was quite an adventure sorry about your Bo-Bo
No riding for me this weekend to cold and wet you must have sent your crappy weather this way

I picked up used 2006 Cannondale Prophet 800 Lefty
in patriot blue today maybe good candidate for a Tangent's Ascent drive?
http://www.bikepedia.com/QuickBike/BikeSpecs.aspx?year=2006&brand=Cannondale&model=Prophet+800
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Esting said:
I hope you cleaned your bike like this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2sKhSDrugE
More or less. I didn't use solvent. I'll have to pick some up, I guess. I also don't have a chain cleaner. I just used some elbow grease and a couple of brushes. It seemed to do the trick.
I'll tell you, I'm going to think twice before going for another ride in the mud. It's a real b%*#@ch to clean!
 
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